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Question about floating weeks.

paulabel7

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Newbie Alert! I have a specific question about floating weeks- Are you guaranteed at least one week during your assigned season or is it possible to have no weeks available? Thank you for your help.
 
It is possible to have no available weeks left in the season deeded for a floating week if you are already within the season. If you book 13/12 months ahead for a week within your season or even before the season starts, a week should be available.
 
Newbie Alert! I have a specific question about floating weeks- Are you guaranteed at least one week during your assigned season or is it possible to have no weeks available? Thank you for your help.

It is possible for there to be no weeks available.

If you wait too long to book your week and you try to book during your floating period it is possible all the weeks remaining in your floating period are fully booked. That being said if you book before your floating period starts you should be ok.

It has been posted previously on TUG that even if your floating time period is fully booked Marriott may accommodate you-but that is entirely up to their customer service people.
 
Newbie Alert! I have a specific question about floating weeks- Are you guaranteed at least one week during your assigned season or is it possible to have no weeks available? Thank you for your help.
As noted, there would always be a week available within season for every owner but you could miss it, esp at resorts where the season is split between early and late in the year.
 
Yes, that could happen. Say your season has a Spring and a Fall duration, and early in the year all but 5 owners make their reservations, taking all the Fall weeks and leaving 5 Spring weeks available. Those 5 owners are entitled to those 5 Spring weeks, but if they don't get around to making their reservation until the Spring duration is over, the weeks they were entitled to went un-reserved and they have missed out.
 
Marriott also has the right to take any unreserved periods within so many days of check-in (at my resorts it's 75 days but others may differ depending on how many are specified in the governing docs,) so if you wait until last minute there may not be availability. If this happens they've been known to work with owners to at least give them a generic deposit for an II exchange, but this isn't guaranteed.
 
Thanks for the education. So if I am understanding everyone correctly as long as I book before my designated season begins or before a time stipulated by the timeshare management company I should be guaranteed a week even if it is not my most desired week.
 
Pabel, do you have a general group of resorts in mind, e.g., Orlando, out west, etc.

While the above answer is correct, I think you'll get some more fine-tuned advice about lead time for reserving. For example, Maui at 12-13 months out for winter and summer as the whole year is platinum vs lesser in-demand resorts with a different demand/season pattern.
 
Marriott resorts, particularly Hilton Head.
 
Marriott resorts, particularly Hilton Head.
Hilton head is simpler in some areas and less so in others. Looking at the newest 3 (Grande Ocean, Surf Watch, Barony), Platinum is summer only but for MGO it's weeks 24-34 while for the other 2 it's weeks 22-34 and the other seasons are split like mentioned above. Harbour pointe and a portion of Monarch will be fixed weeks. The floating week calendars for Monarch, Harbour Club, Heritage and Sunset Pointe will be similar to the rest but the seasons have different names. The other thing to be careful about is the timeshare calendar for Sea Pines (Monarch, Heritage, Harbour Club) is off by a week so while the week designations look a week off, they really aren't. For example, Monarch is summer 23-33 but it's the same dates as MGO at 24-34. Also, all but the 3 latest have set checkin in days. Friday for Heritage, Sunday for Harbour Club, Saturday for Monarch and SP/HP while the other 3 have Fri/Sat/Sun.
 
Even if you reserve too late Marriott will usually offer to deposit a replacement week in II, so it's not a total loss.
 
Newbie also. I have been watching the Maui resales. The floating weeks are often listed as 1 to 50. So does that mean all that is guaranteed is a week within that large range? If I need something every year in weeks 26-33, should I wait for a resale legacy fixed week or is there a way to be certain to get one of those summer weeks with a floating week purchase? If a fixed week is found, can I assume that week is a sure thing so long as the reservation is made within the appropriate window?

Thanks
 
Floating weeks will require you to compete with others, as you'll be dialing in to request your summer week 12 months out, unless you own two weeks, then some inventory is available at 13 months.

A fixed week means you own that unit (floor) and week. No reservation required. With the exception of Weeks 51-52, I believe, fixed weeks are only available in the newer Lahaina and Napili towers and generally are 'listed' at least 2x the price of floating MOC weeks...and usually much more., depending on week, floor and unit.
 
A reservation is still required for a fixed week. Fixed weeks become "floating" after some Marriott known event. (Deposit by owner, or other internal scheme) We have stayed in so-called fixed weeks at Maui Ocean Club many times. (Top floor or two of Napili Tower was designated as fixed originally), but floating week people are often in them. Don't know exactly how it works, but we have enjoyed the ninth floor almost all of the last six or seven years. To the OP, what Marriott sales will tell you is that for a weeks' owner, the only thing guaranteed is your room view type in your purchased season. Depending on the popularity of the resort, you may not be able to secure a DESIRED week....different than week in your season. And, even though it is a so-called guarantee, you have to work to secure a reservation. If you wait until March to make a February reservation in Hawaii, you're going to be disappointed, unless you're lucky enough to secure a trade. Points people have no such guarantee, but they have more flexibility and access to available inventory via website.
 
If you own a fixed week the system automatically sends you a confirmation for that week 18 months out. Unless you trade it to Interval, or are eligible and deposit it for points, it's yours.

In the above case I'm assuming the owners deposited for points and Marriott placed points owners in the unit.
 
Newbie also. I have been watching the Maui resales. The floating weeks are often listed as 1 to 50. So does that mean all that is guaranteed is a week within that large range? If I need something every year in weeks 26-33, should I wait for a resale legacy fixed week or is there a way to be certain to get one of those summer weeks with a floating week purchase? If a fixed week is found, can I assume that week is a sure thing so long as the reservation is made within the appropriate window?

Thanks
As others have said, you may not get the desired week. But you may also get close, meaning you may have to arrive a day later. If you're flexible within your window, chances improve a lot. Good friend wanted his 2-bd oceanfront Napili for August 4, called at 9:00am EST one year ahead, and could not get Aug 4 check-in, but got Aug 5.
 
Thanks for that clarification TXTortoise. We are looking for a fixed week at MOC new towers and I was working on the assumption that it is guaranteed - probably the reason for the price difference vs floating?

I don't want to play the game of calling in at just the right time.

I see that you own at MOC Lahaina. I don't want to take the thread off topic, but I have not been able to find a thread that explains how splitting the lockoff works with fixed weeks. Ie - if you only want to use part and rent/trade the other part. I can start a new thread but I don't want to if it already exists.


Pam

Edit - I am a member but it always says guest under my name.
 
Lock-off is pretty easy. You lock-off with Marriott into two units. Assuming resale and no points options, you then deposit one of them with Interval to trade, even if you are trying to get them as consecutive weeks. At that point, you're basically into the same competition with floating weeks owners but dependent on II deposits.

That's another reason folks that are spending fixed week money often try for two consecutive weeks, then just rent out the portion you aren't using.

The price of these is a whole other topic. Few units, high realtor listings that don't sell, mostly with folks that I assume bought at developers prices and don't 'need' or even want to sell. (Suggest another thread. ;-)

Ping Sue on the Guest issue, I'm guessing it's related to the process you needed to go through when you paid your dues.
 
Does Marriott charge if you rent one side and stay in the other during your week? Will they issue separate keys?
 
I've not done it yet, but if you lock-off it becomes two new distinct reservation confirmation numbers. One or both of which you can rent, e.g., 2BR reservation becomes a 1BR and Studio, to use, rent or trade independently. You still own them as fixed weeks at that point.
 
A very helpful discussion. I am a Marriott newbie with questions after reading the stickys and searching (I own HGVC and knowledgeable there but seeking Maui resale options).

1. Are MOC and newer tower floating weeks considered weeks program or points program?

2. Can you buy a lockoff with a floating week and still split and rent/use for second week as described in this thread?

3. Can you split lockoff with one side summer and one winter - similar to Westin?

4. Are all 2 bdrm units at MOC and new towers lockoffs?

5. Do EOY units exist on Lahaina tower and Moc? I do not see any for sale.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
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Even though I am new, I will take a stab at some of these questions, just to test my understanding.
1. Here is a link that shows which units were sold by the developer as fixed vs floating. There are 2 different stickies that explain each. It may have changed over time if the ROFR was exercised.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-fDpxt2c/0/O/i-fDpxt2c.jpg

2. I dont' know

3. I think you would have to trade in II since Maui is all one season.
4. I read a thread somewhere here on TUG that said some of the 2BR in the back corner of Lahaina are not lockoffs. Had to do a lot of searching to find it.
5. I don't know
Pam
 
The chart is very helpful. Thanks.

My question is simpler than that. I see two stickys 1) Destination Points program; 2) weeks program. While it is clear that the fixed weeks fit in #2, I am not clear which of these stickies applies to floating weeks at MOC? Perhaps my confusion is because I come from the HGVC world in which you own a float week during a season but also have points.
 
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