Hi Presley I bought it from The Mid-West Transfer, LLC. Now I have to wait 2 to 3 more weeks appx due to an error. I just hope I can have this TS soon because I need to book anything/something this year since I am paying full 2016 maintenance. 
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I used Diane as well....very easy to work with....signed the contract 12/18, closed and in the system by 2/3....and this was during the holiday season.
I tried something similar with Judi a year back or so. I found a 6.200 points 1BR at HGVC on the boulevard on her website. It was listed to 9k'ish at the time, and I offered 6-7k I think.
Judi later called me back, and told me that se had contacted HGVC to "see" if the sale would pass ROFR. According to Judi HGVC claimed that they were willing to buy it ASAP at full listing price.
So that one I lost, to the same suspicious way as you did.
I later found the same unit cheaper, so for me it was a win-win
Regards
Judi Kozlowski
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ROFR
If I told you I was calling Hilton that is exactly what I was doing. If Hilton said they were going to take the unit I save myself and the Buyer 21 to 30 days waiting for Hilton to take the unit. Nothing fishy. If I wrote the contract and Hilton exercised then I would go back to the Buyer to sell him something else. I am then paid on both transactions. A lot of Brokers do this. I try not to.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
I tried something similar with Judi a year back or so. I found a 6.200 points 1BR at HGVC on the boulevard on her website. It was listed to 9k'ish at the time, and I offered 6-7k I think.
Judi later called me back, and told me that se had contacted HGVC to "see" if the sale would pass ROFR. According to Judi HGVC claimed that they were willing to buy it ASAP at full listing price.
So that one I lost, to the same suspicious way as you did.
I later found the same unit cheaper, so for me it was a win-win
Regards
If I told you I was calling Hilton that is exactly what I was doing. If Hilton said they were going to take the unit I save myself and the Buyer 21 to 30 days waiting for Hilton to take the unit. Nothing fishy. If I wrote the contract and Hilton exercised then I would go back to the Buyer to sell him something else. I am then paid on both transactions. A lot of Brokers do this. I try not to.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Fishy
Rob,
Just to make sure you read my reply. I don't do FISHY
If I told you I was calling Hilton that is exactly what I was doing. If Hilton said they were going to take the unit I save myself and the Buyer 21 to 30 days waiting for Hilton to take the unit. Nothing fishy. If I wrote the contract and Hilton exercised then I would go back to the Buyer to sell him something else. I am then paid on both transactions. A lot of Brokers do this. I try not to.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere.
Hmm.
smells ^^^^^ to me too.
Rob,
Just to make sure you read my reply. I don't do FISHY
If I told you I was calling Hilton that is exactly what I was doing. If Hilton said they were going to take the unit I save myself and the Buyer 21 to 30 days waiting for Hilton to take the unit. Nothing fishy. If I wrote the contract and Hilton exercised then I would go back to the Buyer to sell him something else. I am then paid on both transactions. A lot of Brokers do this. I try not to.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere.
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Prices
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Prices have not dropped that low. This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
ROFR
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Buyback
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Contract
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
No contract needed to be done.
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
ROFR
Hilton has the right to purchase property as well as exercise their right of first refusal. What was presented to Hilton was the fact that this unit was going under contract and we were trying to avoid having the buyer wait 21-30 days to find out if the ROFR was going to happen. End of story.
Hilton has the right to purchase property as well as exercise their right of first refusal. What was presented to Hilton was the fact that this unit was going under contract and we were trying to avoid having the buyer wait 21-30 days to find out if the ROFR was going to happen. End of story.
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
No bullshiza
Hilton can do anything they want within the law. They can purchase units, they can rent units, they can exercise their first right of refusal. In this situation we just saved the Buyer some time in finding out what they were going to do.
Hilton can do anything they want within the law. They can purchase units, they can rent units, they can exercise their first right of refusal. In this situation we just saved the Buyer some time in finding out what they were going to do.
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
ROFR
Hilton can purchase units. They do not need a potential buyer. All Developers do this.
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Hilton can purchase units. They do not need a potential buyer. All Developers do this.
This was a Seller that panicked, called my
office and reduced the unit from $7,000 to $2,300. I was not told and the assistant reduced the price on the advertising without my knowledge. We received an offer on the unit and the buyer was told that it would be very difficult to get that offer waived by Hilton. To save the buyer from waiting 21 to 30 days for an answer from Hilton I called and asked if the unit would be picked up and Hilton said they would handle it with the Seller. Yes we could have waited for the actual estoppel with the notification to exercise but I made
the decision to call Hilton. End of story. BTW The Assistant was fired
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Leary of Seller
There is no need to be leary of this Seller.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
There is no need to be leary of this Seller.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
violation
There is no procedural requirement and absolutely no ethical violation.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
There is no procedural requirement and absolutely no ethical violation.
I do not work in the gray area of timeshare. I am a Realtor. I have never had an ethics violation in my 48 years in real estate. I am not planning to have one now. My listings are from real Sellers. They are not from discount brokers who have already collected fees from the sellers. They are not from the advertising companies who have already collected large fees from the Sellers. I have a very good relationship with Hilton and plan to keep it that way. If you ever have a question as to how I work please do not hesitate to contact me. I have been with RE/MAX for 30 years and do not plan to be moving anywhere. I can be contacted at 407-921-0000 or judi@judikoz.com
Judi Kozlowski
TUG Member
Offers
Joey,
A lot of Brokers will take your offers and try to have the unit exercised on. They will then sell you another unit. I call it double dipping. You end up buying an affiliate resort which does not have the ROFR. I am sorry that I did not earn your business.
Joey,
A lot of Brokers will take your offers and try to have the unit exercised on. They will then sell you another unit. I call it double dipping. You end up buying an affiliate resort which does not have the ROFR. I am sorry that I did not earn your business.
I misunderstood the circumstances then. Still.. Hilton agreeing to take a unit outside of rofr seems odd. Are you stating that hilton will buy back units from owners direct (which is what this would be).
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Correct, but the out provisions of the contract would apply. . Otherwise someone would be in violation if both parties signed..
Again, the actual circumstances seem different than the ones I originally thought applied.
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I misunderstood the facts and stand corrected if both parties had not executed the contract.
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Thanks for the update... obviously the situation is dynamic and HGVC or any developer and start and stop exercising ROFR at any time...
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I assume she meant unlike other sellers (bcsrentals/premierevacationmarketing), there's no need to be leery of her (Judi).
That, or she didn't read the whole post and mistakenly thought the post alluded to her.
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Judi Kozlowski
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ROFR
Thank you for your reply. Hilton exercised on two of our units today.
They are definitely being aggressive.
Thank you for your reply. Hilton exercised on two of our units today.
They are definitely being aggressive.