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A World Leading Scientist on the Search for Extraterrestials...

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A World Leading Scientist on the Search for Extraterrestials Pointed Out a Flaw in Stephen Hawking's Fear of Finding Intelligent Aliens - by Jessica Orwig/ Science/ Business Insider/ businessinsider.com

"For decades, humans have been hunting for extraterrestrial intelligence, but 32 years after the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute was founded, the cosmos remains eerily quiet.

This silence has influenced a new group of experts over recent years which says it's time to stop listening and start talking — by deliberately transmitting messages into space for anyone who might be searching for them. They call the project Active SETI.

Many intellectual leaders of our age, including Stephen Hawking, say that the idea behind Active SETI should be avoided at all cost, but co-founder and former director of the Center for SETI Research at the SETI Institute, Jill Tarter, pointed out a serious flaw in Hawking's philosophy..."

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I find this interesting.

With our modern technology space travel to the next star is impossible. Traveling to other stars is farther still. Another galaxy would be mind numbing.

So why is it this way?

Is it because we are so far behind in terms of technology, or is it because we're so far ahead and no other being is as far. Maybe it is that whatever created all of this wanted us to stay away from other forms of life.

It is all very interesting to ponder. I hope I will see some answers in my life time.
 

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I thought we were already broadcasting the same message over and over into space via SETI?
 

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I would prefer we not send messages out. If they're out there why tell them where we are? We've got enough trouble getting along with fellow earthlings.
 

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I would prefer we not send messages out. If they're out there why tell them where we are? We've got enough trouble getting along with fellow earthlings.

You have been watching to many bad alien movies. LOL. I hope?
only times will tell. Not in our life time.
 

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Even transmitting something like "Here we are on this blue marble, 3rd rock from an insignificant sun. C'mon down" will take hundreds/thousands/millions of years to reach listening ears at the speed of light, then the same amount of time for a reply to return.

Don't lose sleep worrying about the consequences for the next few thousand generations. Humankind will have ceased to exist in any recognizable form by then.

Jim
 

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Even transmitting something like "Here we are on this blue marble, 3rd rock from an insignificant sun. C'mon down" will take hundreds/thousands/millions of years to reach listening ears at the speed of light, then the same amount of time for a reply to return.

Don't lose sleep worrying about the consequences for the next few thousand generations. Humankind will have ceased to exist in any recognizable form by then.

Jim
But we will still owe MF's! !
 

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I would prefer we not send messages out. If they're out there why tell them where we are? We've got enough trouble getting along with fellow earthlings.

YEAH!

'cause WHAT IF they know a way to get thru the Marriott Reservation line at 9am ahead of us? That could be disastrous. I'm for reining it in.
 

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YEAH!

'cause WHAT IF they know a way to get thru the Marriott Reservation line at 9am ahead of us? That could be disastrous. I'm for reining it in.

:hysterical:

I stopped at a WalMart today, after which I respectfully submit that we need not reach out into space to find or to communicate with extraterrestrial life. :shrug:
I had seen the word "Walmartians" before, but a first hand visit has provided new meaning and insight for me.
 
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:hysterical:

I stopped at a WalMart today, after which I respectfully submit that we need not reach out into space to find or to communicate with extraterrestrial life. :shrug:
I had seen the word "Walmartians" before, but a first hand visit has provided new meaning and insight for me.

Yikes!! See what I mean, they may have already found us.
 

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I'm with Stephen Hawking on this one.

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ET the movie was not base upon a real alien. I am truly disappointed in Hollywood.
 

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I would prefer we not send messages out. If they're out there why tell them where we are? We've got enough trouble getting along with fellow earthlings.

Stephen Hawking has said it probably is not a wise idea to broadcast where we are. We may have regrets.
 

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A Research Team Has an Unsettling Explanation for Why We Haven't Found Aliens by Matt Williams/ Universe Today/ Business Insider/ businessinsider.com


"In 1950, physicist Enrico Fermi raised a very important question about the universe and the existence of extraterrestrial life.

Given the size and age of the universe, he said, and the statistical probability of life emerging in other solar systems, why is it that humanity has not seen any indications of life emerging in the cosmos?

This query, known as the Fermi Paradox, continues to haunt us to this day.


Richard
 
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We've been transmitting a holy cacophony of electronic signals in every direction and on every frequency "from DC to daylight" for 125 years now. I don't think there's any need for a sign, a la Wily Coyote, saying "here we are."

Any civilization able to hear it has surely said "What the heck is all that ruckus over there?" by now.

As for Fermi, although the cosmos is vast, its density is the opposite, so I don't believe our failure to hear anything means anything yet.
 
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