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cabo huricane resort damage report? [merged]

Again, I’m so happy to have been kept safe and to be home. Know that those of you that adore Cabo, it will be back and likely better than ever. Everyone there was determined to get back on their feet and continue to make Cabo a great vacation destination.

Thank you so much for taking time to post your first hand report. You have been through quite an ordeal.

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My wife and I are owners at the Club Regina. We left Cabo the Saturday before the storm hit. The guests we had with us were supposed to fly out the Sunday after. Their flight got cancelled and they were forced to ride out the storm at the club. They finally made it back to the US late last night. They did share some photos with us of both the Club Regina and the Westin. I can't seem to upload them from my phone on here. I will say that it appears that the Westin suffered more extensive damage than the club Regina from what can be seen in photos. I will post what I have if I can figure out how to upload them.

I'm selfishly interested in seeing your pictures because we are booked there (Club Regina) the first week of January. I thought about trying to change to PV instead - we can't quite decide what to do. Re: posting photos - I think you need to post them on a photo sharing site (photobucket, flicker) first, and then post a link to the album.
 
I should have probably thought to post some suggestions for those in contact with others still trying to get out. My thoughts:

1) Get to the airport any reasonable way possible as soon as you can. The resort led us to believe there was no way to do it on our own, there would be numerous checkpoints and only those on official lists would be let through. We were also told only those on "lists" would be allowed on planes on certain given days. None of this was true. There were no checkpoints and it was simply first come first served at the airport...I wish we had tried to get a taxi first thing yesterday morning, although everything worked out for us in the end. Gas is going to run out for both the generators and for those running taxi's and shuttles.

2) Take water with you wherever you go. If you don't have any, buy it or boil it now if you can. We boiled 5 gallons of water in our room on Monday and travelled with gatorade and water...much of which we ended up providing to others at the airport, dehydrated in the heat. There is little shelter anywhere.

3) Do NOT go into town alone. It's peaceful now, but at some point supplies will disappear and tourists may start to look like targets. If you need supplies, try to get them from the resort. If you need to go into town go in a group with a resort employee.

4) Cash is king. With some internet and cell service restored, if you don't have a small supply of cash, try to get some.
 
From my husband's company's daily travel alert:

Mexico: Baja California Sur: Defer non-essential travel; those already in the state should stand fast, follow directions of authorities
Members should defer all non-essential travel to Baja California Sur state due to extensive infrastructural damage sustained during the passage of former Hurricane Odile. Tropical Storm Polo could further complicate relief efforts with the potential for severe weather conditions to southern portions of Baja California Sur over the weekend. The security forces are organising evacuations out of hurricane-affected areas. Travellers should stand fast until contacted by the authorities and given specific directions.


(Although, I agree with what ocdb8r posted above about getting to airport any way that you can, but that is a personal decision).

Fingers crossed that Polo doesn't hit Cabo.
 
Thank you so much for taking time to post your first hand report. You have been through quite an ordeal.



I'm selfishly interested in seeing your pictures because we are booked there (Club Regina) the first week of January. I thought about trying to change to PV instead - we can't quite decide what to do. Re: posting photos - I think you need to post them on a photo sharing site (photobucket, flicker) first, and then post a link to the album.

I will transfer them to my laptop and upload them this afternoon. I will post all I have collected from our guests as well as the photos I've been able to track down online from others who were there. It doesn't appear that there was near the damage to any of the structures at the club when compared to the Westin. The water damage to the rooms and their contents may be a whole different story though. Our guests said that many rooms lost their windows as well as doors (both sliding glass and entry doors) at the club.
 
Some of this is true and some of it is a downright untruth. First of all, there was serious structural damage to two buildings at the Pueblo Bonito Sunset. In fact, those whose rooms were in those buildings had to be evacuated first since the buildings appeared to be falling down.

There's food if you can wait on long lines in the sun for it. And once you finally get into a restaurant food and water are rationed!

The evacuation is haphazardly arranged with folks standing in long lines just to get a group number to get on a bus.

My friends, who are 75+ have told me it's a zoo there and especially difficult with the randomness of their instructions.

As I just posted, she sent me a text an hour ago. She said she and her husband got into a van and paid the driver $10 just to avoid the LONG lines in front of PB Sunset. I don't know where she's going and I doubt she does either. I haven't heard from her since then.

I'm waiting here at home near my phone and computer to help her get out of wherever the military plane takes her. I can get her Home (to Newark) or Houston or Vancouver from Mexico City. To Mexico City from Guadalajara or Matzatlan. Then a change to a flight home from there. If she makes it to Tijuana I'll guess she can go to San Diego from there.

But, she has insisted on taking her 50 pound suitcase and her carry ons and I'm worried about her and him trying to manage on the Tarmac or across the bridge from Tijuana to the USA.


My elderly friends took a van to the airport. They took a look around and left. She went back to PB Sunset. There's around 10,000 people standing in the sun on the Tarmac now. I'm waiting to hear if she got a room.
 
I should have probably thought to post some suggestions for those in contact with others still trying to get out. My thoughts:

1) Get to the airport any reasonable way possible as soon as you can. The resort led us to believe there was no way to do it on our own, there would be numerous checkpoints and only those on official lists would be let through. We were also told only those on "lists" would be allowed on planes on certain given days. None of this was true. There were no checkpoints and it was simply first come first served at the airport...I wish we had tried to get a taxi first thing yesterday morning, although everything worked out for us in the end. Gas is going to run out for both the generators and for those running taxi's and shuttles.

2) Take water with you wherever you go. If you don't have any, buy it or boil it now if you can. We boiled 5 gallons of water in our room on Monday and travelled with gatorade and water...much of which we ended up providing to others at the airport, dehydrated in the heat. There is little shelter anywhere.

3) Do NOT go into town alone. It's peaceful now, but at some point supplies will disappear and tourists may start to look like targets. If you need supplies, try to get them from the resort. If you need to go into town go in a group with a resort employee.

4) Cash is king. With some internet and cell service restored, if you don't have a small supply of cash, try to get some.

I'm listening to you. I'm going to convey what you posted to my friends in Cabo, when she finally calls me, and suggest they get up before dawn and get to the airport first thing tomorrow. I sincerely hope she listens to me and not the stuff the resort is telling her. Thanks so much for your post. I'm glad you got home safely and did not heed the naysayers.
 
I'm listening to you. I'm going to convey what you posted to my friends in Cabo, when she finally calls me, and suggest they get up before dawn and get to the airport first thing tomorrow. I sincerely hope she listens to me and not the stuff the resort is telling her. Thanks so much for your post. I'm glad you got home safely and did not heed the naysayers.

I just spoke with my friend. They got their room back but the clerk told them that this will be their last night. They HAVE to leave tomorrow. I reiterated that she should find her own way to the airport and I said she should find someone to share her taxi with them when they eat dinner in the restaurant. She said she'll try but I know she won't. She'll follow the herd and leave when the resort van takes her and no sooner. I absolutely read her the post about getting to the airport any way she could but she said, and I quote "this is a disaster area there are no cabs". So she'll go to the airport with those left at PB Sunset. The one good thing is the lines for the restaurants have vanished, but soon, so will the food. I told her to boil water. She told me the resort says the water is filtered and clean but she'll boil some just in case (which I also doubt she'll do).
 
It may be effective for your friend to point out that she's "75 and really too frail to deal with all this." Mexicans, in general, are very soliticious of the elderly. This is one time her age might do her some good.
 
It may be effective for your friend to point out that she's "75 and really too frail to deal with all this." Mexicans, in general, are very soliticious of the elderly. This is one time her age might do her some good.


Wow, have you hit a bruised spot! My friend has been lying about her age for so many years it will kill her to admit to her real age. But if there was ever a reason to tell the truth and come clean, this is it. I'll tell her. Let's hope she does it. Thanks for the advice!

Now how to convince her to find another couple to take a taxi with? She still insists on carrying her 50lb + gigantic suitcase.
 
Wow, have you hit a bruised spot! My friend has been lying about her age for so many years it will kill her to admit to her real age. But if there was ever a reason to tell the truth and come clean, this is it. I'll tell her. Let's hope she does it. Thanks for the advice!

Now how to convince her to find another couple to take a taxi with? She still insists on carrying her 50lb + gigantic suitcase.

She's always been stubborn about "knowing what she's doing" but dragging this suitcase around in 100 degree sun makes zero sense to me. They couldn't even get it out of the van when the driver took them back to the resort after they realized how crowded the airport was! I know she's scared to death, but please listen to me a little bit! :ignore:
 
I fully appreciate the apprehension. It's a daunting situation and many of the resorts are currently much more comfortable than the airport. I had this very conversation with my friend as we realized it would be after 4pm before we left the Grand Solmar. She was very concerned about us getting stuck at the airport overnight. However, this is what I told her: First in, First out. The people at that airport first are going to be the first to get out. If we had waited we'd be behind anyone who showed up in the next 12-14 hours (at best) before we could have returned. Do the math in the article posted by PStreet. They've been operating evac flights since Tuesday afternoon. They estimate through Wednesday they had evacuated approximately 5000 tourists...while they estimated there were as many as 30,000 stranded. That's at least 6 full days of evacuation necessary, not taking into consideration the approaching tropical storm. Not that I want her to "work" the system, but anyone in a wheelchair or with children under 10 is getting straight through the front of the line.

There is currently food and there may currently be clean water, but the power is going to go out at some point...at some point the water filters will stop working (if they haven't failed due to the storm already, which is why we took the precaution to boil water). There are no new fresh supplies to be gotten. Dehydration to me is the next biggest risk given the heat and humidity and the unavoidable reality that you're going to have to wait in some sort of line at the airport at some point. PB is not the only group making clear everyone must be out by Friday. They know another storm is coming and they are already running by a thread. They know they can't really support people past Friday given the current situation.

I think I am fortunate to have traveled extensively and to have lived in developing countries. It has stripped me of the sort of complacency I gained growing up in the suburbs of CA with little more to worry about than the occasional earthquake. Even in the US we have struggled with profound natural disasters (Katrina) and in a place with fewer resources and a slightly less robust infrastructure, there are bound to be serious problems. At some point you have to accept that someone else will not always be able to take care of you (even if they REALLY want to) and you have to take a measured response into your own hands. I think my friend thought me a bit odd to have started boiling water and to have told her we need to go buy protein and carbohydrate dense items to keep on hand...after all, the resort promised us we'd all be out by Friday and they seemed to be serving plenty of food. However, I don't think we regret it one bit, even now haven gotten out fairly quickly (Ok...off my soapbox).

I pray everyone finds a safe way out or just pure safety until they can.
 
I fully appreciate the apprehension. It's a daunting situation and many of the resorts are currently much more comfortable than the airport. I had this very conversation with my friend as we realized it would be after 4pm before we left the Grand Solmar. She was very concerned about us getting stuck at the airport overnight. However, this is what I told her: First in, First out. The people at that airport first are going to be the first to get out. If we had waited we'd be behind anyone who showed up in the next 12-14 hours (at best) before we could have returned. Do the math in the article posted by PStreet. They've been operating evac flights since Tuesday afternoon. They estimate through Wednesday they had evacuated approximately 5000 tourists...while they estimated there were as many as 30,000 stranded. That's at least 6 full days of evacuation necessary, not taking into consideration the approaching tropical storm. Not that I want her to "work" the system, but anyone in a wheelchair or with children under 10 is getting straight through the front of the line.

There is currently food and there may currently be clean water, but the power is going to go out at some point...at some point the water filters will stop working (if they haven't failed due to the storm already, which is why we took the precaution to boil water). There are no new fresh supplies to be gotten. Dehydration to me is the next biggest risk given the heat and humidity and the unavoidable reality that you're going to have to wait in some sort of line at the airport at some point. PB is not the only group making clear everyone must be out by Friday. They know another storm is coming and they are already running by a thread. They know they can't really support people past Friday given the current situation.

I think I am fortunate to have traveled extensively and to have lived in developing countries. It has stripped me of the sort of complacency I gained growing up in the suburbs of CA with little more to worry about than the occasional earthquake. Even in the US we have struggled with profound natural disasters (Katrina) and in a place with fewer resources and a slightly less robust infrastructure, there are bound to be serious problems. At some point you have to accept that someone else will not always be able to take care of you (even if they REALLY want to) and you have to take a measured response into your own hands. I think my friend thought me a bit odd to have started boiling water and to have told her we need to go buy protein and carbohydrate dense items to keep on hand...after all, the resort promised us we'd all be out by Friday and they seemed to be serving plenty of food. However, I don't think we regret it one bit, even now haven gotten out fairly quickly (Ok...off my soapbox).

I pray everyone finds a safe way out or just pure safety until they can.


OMG, I AM GOING TO FORWARD YOUR POST TO HER. I know she doesn't believe me and fully believes that the resort will take care of her. All the resort cares about is getting her off their property at this point. The wheelchair is brilliant.. I wonder can she get one in the airport? I kinda doubt that! I'm going to cut and paste this right now. She's avoiding me cause she doesn't believe I know what I'm talking about which is SO frustrating. Thanks a million!

Marylyn
 
Someone upthread had asked about the Solmar Beach Club before we lost internet, so I took a few pics.

Solmar Beach Club
https://plus.google.com/photos/115455726250607607499/albums/6060519460198000833?banner=pwa

In general the common areas were hit VERY hard. The bar out by the beach and the other covered area next to the pool are complete losses. The room buildings themselves seem to have held up ok, with some losing a large portion of their roof tiles. No idea how the insides look, but I didn't see any other structural damage.

Grand Solmar
I don't have any further update on the oceanfront building they didn't allow us to re-occupy as a result of where the pool caved in. We did go around to the other side and there was some loss of the ledge right in front of that building, so I assume there is a chance of further erosion under the building. There was some visible signs of wall cracking by the (formerly) covered grass type area between that building and the pool that bordered the Solmar Beach club. What I can say is that the break has completely changed from the pre-storm days we were there. There is virtually no beach in front of 95% of the resort and the waves were consistently breaking up against and splashing over into the pools that had survived (and the patio of the restaurant). I know they say "the beach will come back" but storms can and do permanently change the beach (just look at Cancun). If the beach doesn't come back and adjust the break, I can't imagine there won't need to be some major redesign given the power of those constantly pounding waves.
 
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Here are the photos I have of the Westin and the Club Regina...

Here is a view of the storm moving in over the Club:
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Here is a photo of the "shelter" for those who were staying in the Club Regina. This is actually the sales office that is directly across from the front desk. Why they chose a room full of windows is beyond me.... This was taken by our friends who were stuck there:
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Here is the photo they took of the initial shelter area the morning after the storm.. The shelter gave in and they moved to a kitchen area but the roof gave in there. All guests eventually ended up in a stairwell hunkered down for the night.

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Here is the photo they took of the initial shelter area the morning after the storm.. The shelter gave in and they moved to a kitchen area but the roof gave in there. All guests eventually ended up in a stairwell hunkered down for the night.

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Is the picture of the glass walls blown in the same place as the picture above it? I did see pics of people huddled in staircases one on top of the other. Each step two people with no ability to move around. Just horrible!
 
Here are the photos I have of the Westin and the Club Regina...

Here is a view of the storm moving in over the Club:
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This looks like a surreal painting. I know it is horrible to say but the picture is breathtaking.
 
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