Lockout definition

[Rclarmont]

I am a Newbie and am trying to understand difference between a 2 bedroom unit and a 2 bedroom lockout. Exactly what does the lockout mean?

 

[dioxide45]

I am a Newbie and am trying to understand difference between a 2 bedroom unit and a 2 bedroom lockout. Exactly what does the lockout mean?

Lockout means that you can reserve two separate units from the single 2BR. Usually this means a studio and a 1BR unit. Though sometimes it is two 1BR units. You end up with two units where you can travel two different weeks of the year. Effectively getting two weeks for one maintenance fee.

You can also deposit both weeks with an exchange company, and in the case of RCI, end up with more TPUs by doing so. With II, you can often trade in to larger units as long as you are okay with traveling in shoulder/off season.

 

[DeniseM]

Here is a picture of one type of lock-off - a small 1 bdm. attached to a Lg. 1 bdm.:

Here is a picture of a "standard" 2 bdm. - it cannot be split into 2 units:

Other common configurations:
1 bdm. + studio
1 bdm. + 1 bdm. (both the same size)
2 bdm. + 1 bdm. or studio

 

[Ron98GT]

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[uscav8r]

It's a common mistake on TUG, but the term is "lockoff" vice lockout. Sometimes spellcheck is not your friend!


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[T_R_Oglodyte]

Here is one common floor plan for a 2-bedroom lock-off unit.

Note how the layout has three distinct areas; two bedroom areas and a living/dining room area, each with it's own separate entryway and bath area.

This type of unit can create three different combinations.

1. As shown, it can be used as a two-bedroom unit, and the sofa in the living room area is also a sleeper sofa. In timeshare parlance this is a 2/6/6, meaning that it is a two-bedroom unit that sleeps 6 people total, and 6 people privately (i.e, none of the sleeping units needs to share a bathroom with another unit)
   
2. Or one of the bedrooms can be split off (locked off) as a "hotel room" (1/2/2), leaving the remaining bedroom/living-dining room combo as a one bedroom unit (1/4/4).
   
3. Or each unit can be locked off completely separately from the others, yielding 2 hotel room units and 1 studio unit. (The living-dining room area by itself comprises a studio unit.)

 

[csxjohn]

..Other common configurations:
1 bdm. + studio
1 bdm. + 1 bdm. (both the same size)
2 bdm. + 1 bdm. or studio

And I have been in a resort with a 3 bdm lockoff configured

1 bdm. + 1 bdm. + 1 bdm.

I stayed in the smallest of the 3 different 1 bdms and it was a true 1bdm with a full kitchen with full size appliances.

 

[HatTrick]

Exactly what does the lockout mean?

Failure to pay your maintenance fees. :hysterical:

 

[csxjohn]

Failure to pay your maintenance fees. :hysterical:

Or look too long at the young hottie in the hot tub while your wife is there.

 

[HatTrick]

Or look too long at the young hottie in the hot tub while your wife is there.

Which could also lead to a "maxout" of the credit card...

 

[dioxide45]

It's a common mistake on TUG, but the term is "lockoff" vice lockout. Sometimes spellcheck is not your friend!


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I think lockoff is the noun and lockout is the verb. So are you are going to lockout your lockoff?

 

[mtforeman]

And our timeshares are 4br lock offs--which are 2 2-bedroom units. This is frequently seem at some of the resorts in Williamsburg ...

 

[LannyPC]

I think lockoff is the noun and lockout is the verb.

"Lockout" can be a noun as in a labour dispute. The opposite of a strike. A strike is where the workers essentially refuse to work until certain demands are met. A lockout is where the owners or management don't allow the workers to work until the workers accept certain concessions; kind of like what we saw with the NHL just over a year ago.

 

[csxjohn]

"Lockout" can be a noun as in a labour dispute. The opposite of a strike. A strike is where the workers essentially refuse to work until certain demands are met. A lockout is where the owners or management don't allow the workers to work until the workers accept certain concessions; kind of like what we saw with the NHL just over a year ago.

And the NFL

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

In college I had a friend from the northeast who went out on a date one evening, and the next morning he told me that he "lahcked out".

 

[travelplus]

A lockoff is a great way to go for exchanging and for use. We own only 2 bedrooms with Lockoff and we split it and stayed at the Lawerence Welk Resort in San Diego in a 2 bedroom unit for 2 weeks.

We also own at the Ridge Tahoe in the Cascades building and their 2 bedrooms are really large. Even the lockoff bathroom has a separate bath tub and shower and a King Size Sleep Number Bed, as well as a Sofa Sleeper, table, microwave, mini fridge . Its really nice.

We use the 2 bedroom unit for 2 weeks using one owner week and one exchange via Interval.

 

[Jennie]

If you own a 2 bedroom lock-off unit, which is one of the most popular types, it usually consists of a studio unit and a one bedroom unit, with two separate entrances to the outer hallway.

There is an interior door between the one bedroom half and the studio half that can be left open or closed, locked or unlocked, depending upon whether you have family members or friends, or strangers staying in the studio half.

Many owners rent 1/2 of the unit (usually the studio section) to friends or strangers and stay in the larger half. Or rent out both halves to two different people, or rent the whole 2 sections of the unit to one family (usually sleeps 6-8) and use the rent money to cover all or some of the annual maintenance fees the owner must pay each year. Many people even make a good profit on the deal.

And as previously mentioned, instead of using or renting the unit, you can deposit it with an exchange company (e.g. I.I. or RCI) and receive 2 exchanges for it since the exchange company will be able to offer each section to two different members.

 

[TUGBrian]

heres a quick link to many common terms and acronyms you will find on TUG and the timeshare world for reference!

http://www.tug2.net/timeshare_advice/timeshare_glossary.htm

 

[FishingGoddess]

I'm confused.... in the pictures shown here, it looks like the "lockoff's" are sharing the kitchen and living room. I have a two bedroom lockoff but each side has their own kitchen and living room. Both units are the same size, and there is a hall between with separate doors to each unit. I'm also confused about the statement that you get two weeks for the price of one maintenance fee. I only have the use of one week, week 38. Maybe you mean I would get two weeks if I deposited both UNITS in RCI? I hope this isn't a stupid question, as I'm new to timesharing.

 

[csxjohn]

I'm confused.... in the pictures shown here, it looks like the "lockoff's" are sharing the kitchen and living room. I have a two bedroom lockoff but each side has their own kitchen and living room. Both units are the same size, and there is a hall between with separate doors to each unit. I'm also confused about the statement that you get two weeks for the price of one maintenance fee. I only have the use of one week, week 38. Maybe you mean I would get two weeks if I deposited both UNITS in RCI? I hope this isn't a stupid question, as I'm new to timesharing.

I agree that the pic in post #6 is confusing. Only one kitchenette pictured and that unit only has a half bath so it would need to be paired with one of the other sides to work. The left over side would be considered a HR(hotel room) because of the lack of any type of kitchen.

Depending on your resort you might be able to occupy one half of your unit one week and the other half another week but that may not be the case.

You could occupy one half and rent the other half or you could split the whole unit and deposit both halves giving you two deposits plus any bonus the exchange company may give you.

BTW I have stayed at your resort and love the area. We made good use of the free canoes when there.

 

[SMHarman]

If you look at the post denise made #3, you will see that the smaller left side 1Br has a kitchenette on the right wall (sink hob fridge in a row), the larger 1Br has a full kitchen in a horseshoe shape by the front door. (what scares me more is I look at that and know it is the Harborside Atlantis floorplan).

The one in post #6 is lockoff but by the looks of things locks off into a 1Br + Hotel Room (i.e. no kitchen in the other side of the LO). For the resort occupancy management the two bedroom sides are identical so it could be left br + kitchen and a hotel room or right bedroom + kitchen and hotel room depending on who is staying where for how long.

2 weeks for the price of 1 MF. Well what you can do is reserve the large 1Br for week 1 and the small 1Br for week 2 and that is how you get 2 weeks for the price of one but that is 2 1Br weeks, not 2, 2Br weeks.

 

[pjrose]

Another floor plan

Go here:
https://www.royalresorts.com/the-royal-caribbean.asp#.UyMzhNyRxbw

And look at the floor plan at the bottom. Focus on the thicker vertical brown line that splits the bedroom on the right (the lock off) from the living room on the left (part of the master suite).

You would typically own the entire two bedroom Villa, and if you didn't need both bedrooms, you could "lock off" the "room" (AKA lockoff or hotel room or second bedroom) from the rest. Thus you are splitting the villa into a "master suite" consisting of master bedroom, bath, living room, kitchen, and terrace, and a "lock off" consisting of a bedroom and bath and small balcony.

Each part has a separate entrance. The "lock off" door is shown as a semicircle a bit up on the diagram from the two arrows. In this case, it's a double door which locks on both sides, so the lock off room and the suite are completely separate.

You can occupy either part and rent out the other part, or (sometimes) trade the other part to go elsewhere, or to have two weeks at your home resort, or rent either part from an owner who is splitting up the unit.

 

[Rent_Share]

If you are getting the smaller side, which generally are limited to two people, think dorm room hot plate cooking when planning your meals, usually two burners, a tiny refrigerator and a microwave ....

 

[skeever]

so is it a separate one bedroom or is it a studio?

 

[SMHarman]

so is it a separate one bedroom or is it a studio?

All or these. It is the ability to lock off the larger Unit into two smaller units that can be stayed in by two separate residents at the same time.

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