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Do not let minors hold your beer

am1 said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...nals-game-having-son-hold-beer-135221084.html

I avoid this as best I can. I do not recall ever asking a minor (except friends) to hold my beer. Something that everyone should be aware of.
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Hilarious. I'm amazed that people don't know the basic law in regards to alcohol in public spaces. The guy deserves to be kicked from the game for doing such a stupid move. Next time put the beer down and take the picture, or...gosh, perhaps the beer is more important than the picture? ;)


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I'd never let a miner hold my beer, those guys drink like fish. Oh, you said minor, never mind.

Seriously, we may not have heard the end of this. In Ohio it is legal for a parent to provide alcohol to their children for consumption, at least it was a few years ago when I last looked into it.

If this is true in AZ, there could be repercussions. However I have no idea what the laws are in that state.
 
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csxjohn said:
I'd never let a miner hold my beer, those guys drink like fish. Oh, you said minor, never mind.

Seriously, we may not have heard the end of this. In Ohio it is legal for a parent to provide alcohol to their children for consumption, at least it was a few years ago when I last looked into it.

If this is true in MO, there could be repercussions. However I have no idea what the laws are in that state.
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At first, I didn't understand your post, and then I realized that you thought it was a St. Louis Cardinals game. It actually was an Arizona Cardinals game.

According to the AZ liquor board:

May an underage person consume alcohol on a licensed premise if he is with a parent who consents?
No. [A.R.S. 4-244(9,16)]

-ryan
 
hypnotiq said:
Really? This is what society has come to? :wall:
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Yes.

I assume this was a lapse in judgement given the explanation. Although I find it odd that he would choose to publicize it as an overreaction by stadium officials/law enforcement -- that I find to be even poorer judgement.

-ryan
 
hypnotiq said:
Really? This is what society has come to? :wall:
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I hope so! IMO we should be doing whatever we can to impress upon children that we're serious in enforcing our laws related to alcohol.
 
Nah, this was overboard and dumb. The officers likely saw the dad take the beer back after the picture. Even speaking to him (as a warning) would have done the trick. The comments after the story make some good points. Lots of people could be arrested. Chill. The boy was not defiled by holding the cup.
 
Used to be in Texas that we could buy beer at drive up food joints and drink it in out cars even while driving. If I was drinking a beer while driving (and I did on occasion) and needed both hands like to shift gears, I would hand it to my Son or Daughter to hold. Now a kid can't even hold a beer for his Dad at a ball game. IMO we have too many rules dealing with minor issues today.

George
 
He was not "serving" his son alcohol. He was not "contributing to the delinquency of a minor". He had his son hold an adult beverage for 5 seconds while he took a picture.

This was blown completely out of proportion.
 
hypnotiq said:
He was not "serving" his son alcohol. He was not "contributing to the delinquency of a minor". He had his son hold an adult beverage for 5 seconds while he took a picture.

This was blown completely out of proportion.
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I think you are right.

A couple of years ago a female high school student made this statement: that she was riding shot gun with some friends to a football game. A very young teacher hear this and the female was almost suspensed from high school for bring a shot gun to a football game.

Riding shotgun is a slang term used that a person will be riding in the front right passenger seat in an automobile.

There will be no shotgun or any weapon in the automobule

This incident was blown completely out of proportion by a young female teacher.

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Whether or not it was blown out of proportion is a side issue to me.

1. Having your son hold your alcoholic beverage at any time in a public venue like a stadium in the internet age is poor judgement. There is no context to a photo and this can spread like wildfire.

2. Further publicizing this to the press as a misunderstanding is also poor judgement. Why not let it die knowing that technically you are in the wrong?

Just my opinion. Venues with liquor licenses are generally draconian about enforcement because they can't afford to lose the license or be sanctioned for any reason.

-ryan
 
sjsharkie said:
Why not let it die knowing that technically you are in the wrong?
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Actually, it is probably better to go public. Just think how many people have been educated and this will not happen to them?
 
sjsharkie said:
Whether or not it was blown out of proportion is a side issue to me.

1. Having your son hold your alcoholic beverage at any time in a public venue like a stadium in the internet age is poor judgement. There is no context to a photo and this can spread like wildfire.

2. Further publicizing this to the press as a misunderstanding is also poor judgement. Why not let it die knowing that technically you are in the wrong?

Just my opinion. Venues with liquor licenses are generally draconian about enforcement because they can't afford to lose the license or be sanctioned for any reason.

-ryan
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I wonder how many under 21's got served alcohol (whether presenting a fake ID or not, doesn't matter) at this very same game?? If it's as simple as having your teen hold your beer while you take a photo, then totally blown out of proportion. I have a sense that there is more to this story though.
 
To serve and protect. :rolleyes:

If the cops had concerns about the minor partaking, they could have just watched him for a few minutes or until he gave the beer back to dad.

Sometimes a little common sense can go a long way.
 
MIP

Here in Missouri it is known as MIP, minor in possession. It is one reason DD avoided most parties during high school, she did not want to risk her good academic record on an MIP.

Here recently we had the case of a 19-year old college student who had been drinking at a party. He was too smart to drink and drive. He got in a vehicle driven by a friend who had also been drinking. They got stopped by the cops and the driver got busted for DUI. That should be the end of the story, right? Nope, the passenger was charged with minor in possession because of the alcohol IN him. The interpretation of the law here is that a person's own body can be a container when it comes to alcohol.

Now DD is in college and she is still very careful about the parties she goes to.
 
hypnotiq said:
He was not "serving" his son alcohol. He was not "contributing to the delinquency of a minor". He had his son hold an adult beverage for 5 seconds while he took a picture.

This was blown completely out of proportion.
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I'm with you on this one.

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Of all the things going on in society today :ponder: they chose this to act on. Think it's ridiculous.
 
sjsharkie said:
At first, I didn't understand your post, and then I realized that you thought it was a St. Louis Cardinals game. It actually was an Arizona Cardinals game.

According to the AZ liquor board:

May an underage person consume alcohol on a licensed premise if he is with a parent who consents?
No. [A.R.S. 4-244(9,16)]

-ryan
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You're right I did think is was a St. Louis Cards game. I'm still not up to date on all the city changes in football. I'll edit that post. Thanks.
 
While tying her shoe I had my 4 year old grand daughter holding my drink in one hand and my lit smoke in the other. I thought nothing of it until my son snaped off a picture. There she is with a lit smoke and half full drink. My kids say I did the same with them and more on vacations. I really dont see the problem, its not like I let any of them drink or smoke before they were old enough to know whats what. :D
 
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That video you linked Carol is pretty good. To me it shows that a parent can be a positive influence by showing a child how to act. For example, children raised around alcohol used in moderation are more likely to use alcohol in moderation. I think it takes some guidance for a child to develop a social conscience, especially when it comes to social settings and drinking.
 
easyrider said:
That video you linked Carol is pretty good. To me it shows that a parent can be a positive influence by showing a child how to act. For example, children raised around alcohol used in moderation are more likely to use alcohol in moderation. I think it takes some guidance for a child to develop a social conscience, especially when it comes to social settings and drinking.
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This sentiment is all well and good, and is actually one I agree with, but doesn't negate the fact that our laws state something different. It is simply stupid for a parent to give a child liquor to hold in any public setting. Go to Europe if you want to snap a picture at a sport event while a child holds your beer...can't do that in America, at least not legally...


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pedro47 said:
I think you are right.

A couple of years ago a female high school student made this statement: that she was riding shot gun with some friends to a football game. A very young teacher hear this and the female was almost suspensed from high school for bring a shot gun to a football game.

Riding shotgun is a slang term used that a person will be riding in the front right passenger seat in an automobile.

There will be no shotgun or any weapon in the automobule

This incident was blown completely out of proportion by a young female teacher.

End of story
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The teacher should have been made to stay after school and copy the Urban Dictionary 100 times on the whiteboard.:hysterical:

Cheers
 
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