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[ 2013 ] Rescinding Contract with Westgate

sunstar715

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Hello all,

I've read up quite a bit on here and have decided to cancel my contract with west gate. I just have one question, and it is probably a really dumb one. What is the contract number? Where on the contract for purchase can I find that? I know its probably very obvious, but I want to be 100% sure I am doing this right.

Thank you!!
 
Contract number doesn't really matter if you provide a copy...

Hello all,

I've read up quite a bit on here and have decided to cancel my contract with west gate. I just have one question, and it is probably a really dumb one. What is the contract number? Where on the contract for purchase can I find that? I know its probably very obvious, but I want to be 100% sure I am doing this right.

Thank you!!

I have never had (...and would never have) any involvement of any kind with the Westgate Weasels and / or their sales documents, so I've never actually seen their paperwork. Nonetheless, a sufficient answer to your question is still very simple and very straightforward...

Don't delay preparing and sending your rescission letter if you can't readily find a "contract number" anywhere in your documents. Just prepare and sign your rescission letter (...both you and spouse must sign, if you are married and both of you signed the original contract) and simply make reference to and provide Westgate with an actual photocopy (...keep the originals) of the specific contract you are cancelling. With or without a "contract number", it will thereby be very clear and obvious exactly what contract you are cancelling.

The clock is ticking. Get writing and get to the Post Office to send your rescission by certified mail.
You don't want to have anything to do with Wastegate and this rescission is a very wise and important decision and action for you to complete --- correctly and in a timely manner.

Cancellation period varies from state to state and you must have your rescission letter postmarked within the period applicable to the state in which you made your purchase (that state is not specified in your post). Failing to meet the applicable state rescission deadline would essentially be an irreversible error on your part.

You will undoubtedly get phone calls from Wastegate later. DO NOT take those calls! The calls will just be "offers" to "sweeten" the deal as they desperately try to salvage the disappearing sale (...and commission).
A properly executed rescission letter will stand alone and tall and will take care of everything; you need not have any further conversation with those parasites for any reason. Just remind yourself what happened the last time you listened to them. ;)

Get writing, good luck --- and good riddance to your (soon to be rescinded) Wastegate purchase.
 
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Hello all,

I've read up quite a bit on here and have decided to cancel my contract with west gate. I just have one question, and it is probably a really dumb one. What is the contract number? Where on the contract for purchase can I find that? I know its probably very obvious, but I want to be 100% sure I am doing this right.

Thank you!!

+1 for Theo's suggestion of sending a copy of your contract.
 
Contract Number location

Sunstar715,

I just recently rescinded my Westgate contract as well. When reading the page "Contract for Purchase and Sale" the contract number is located at the bottom right just underneath the sellers signature block. It is a 13 digit number with a dash, that same number appears in different locations on almost all the paper work. if you have the CD its given clearly labeled there. I hope this was a help to you. Let me know if there is anything else I can help with. Westgate is full of slimy weasels, glad you are taking the proper steps to rid yourself of future financial demons.
 
Is it the one that is the same as your member number on the card, with a dash and 3 digits following?



Sunstar715,

I just recently rescinded my Westgate contract as well. When reading the page "Contract for Purchase and Sale" the contract number is located at the bottom right just underneath the sellers signature block. It is a 13 digit number with a dash, that same number appears in different locations on almost all the paper work. if you have the CD its given clearly labeled there. I hope this was a help to you. Let me know if there is anything else I can help with. Westgate is full of slimy weasels, glad you are taking the proper steps to rid yourself of future financial demons.
 
Help please!!! ASAP

Please help!! Just left WGSM and stupid me signed contract. After speaking with my dad i clearly need to cancel. My husband and I had our 2 little children with us so we were cinstantly distracted. After signing (6 hrs later) my kids were running wild. The closing officer stepped away ti make copies of my paperwork for me. She came back and got me and told me to sign this paper stating she placed my papers in my binder...well i did (finally getting out of there) and later i checked and the only thing i have is my dayline proposal paper. No Cd. Nothing else!!!! These ppl knew i was concerned bc i had asked about time i had to back out if i changed my mind. What do i need to send to cancel this contract? Simple instructions please! I didnt even know what timeshare was until today. And still dont really understand it!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!:bawl:
 
Could someone who sucessfully cancelled contract please email a sample of your letter? (Not with your info on it of course. :) i cant sleep just waiting on the post office to open!! And do i send back this binder too? I cant believe they lied about giving me my paperwork. That just proves how crooked they are!!
 
We are glad you found us. Simply write a letter, nothing fancy, just I/we wish to exercise our right to rescind contract #_______, dated 7/__/2013

Signed______&______

Send it to the address in your packet with a copy of the contract. Say that all materials will beshipped separately. Send it USPS Certified, return receipt.

Stay off the phone. Nothing good will come of talking to them.

Best wishes, now get some rest.

Jim
 
Thank you so much for your help. I was going to call this morning. They gave me their personal cell numbers. Probably not the real numbers! Lol. Thank you again for your time. I will take a nap now :zzz:
 
Additional thoughts...

<snip> I was going to call this morning. They gave me their personal cell numbers. <snip>

DO NOT make (...or take) any phone calls on this matter at any time! The written word rules all and no possible good can result from having any such (legally meaningless) phone conversation with deceitful people who clearly do not have your interests at heart, but only their own financial gain in mind.

Get your letter of rescission written and sent by certified mail. Forget any meaningless phone conversation. The law is on your side --- the hungry sales weasels are not. Let the law do its' designed work for you.

A few additional thoughts:
1. You and your spouse both signed the contract. Accordingly, both must also sign the rescission letter.
2. Make sure you send your letter of rescission to the correct address, which should be clearly specified somewhere within your paperwork. Do not just incorrectly assume that sending your rescission letter back to the same resort address where you had your "sales experience" is either proper or sufficient; that's not so.
3. It would not hurt to include a photocopy (...keep all originals) of the contract documents bearing your signatures, so that there is absolutely no possibility of any questions or any "manufactured confusion" concerning exactly what it is that you are cancelling.

You're fortunate to have found this site in time to rescind. You really don't want anything to do with Westgate, buying into truly lousy system practices and policies and at obscenely inflated developer pricing.

P.S. I am concerned that you say you signed a document acknowledging receipt of all materials in a binder, yet you now indicate never having actually confirmed for yourself while there on site that this was even true.
With that observation in mind, do you even have cancellation rights info and a rescission address? :confused::shrug::confused:
 
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No i donot have any psperwork besides the dayline proposal. Its the written copy of the purchase price. Down pymt. Dues. Monthly pymt. It is signed by us both though. Yeah she had me sign saying papers were in my binder. And she left. I didnt think she would be lying. She was at my binder when i came back over there from the bathroom eith kids in tote. Should i just end copy of this? It has an acct number in it. I can send copies of our owner cards that has our acct number on it.
 
Ok. Found paperwork behind a "secret velcro slot" i did call the closing officer to ask nicely where it is that i wanted to read up on it. So do i send copies of everything??
 
Ok. Found paperwork behind a "secret velcro slot" i did call the closing officer to ask nicely where it is that i wanted to read up on it. So do i send copies of everything??

No. Now that you have belatedly located the applicable contract paperwork, you need only send a simple, straightforward letter of rescission as already previously described earlier within this thread. In your letter, make specific reference to the date and location of purchase, and include very specific reference to the assigned "account number" you have now found and mentioned. Send the letter by certified mail (not by FedEx, not by UPS, not by email, not by carrier pigeon), so that USPS issues to you a date-stamped receipt which is documentary proof of actual postmark. You can also request a "return receipt" signature, but this option is much less important than obtaining (...and keeping) the hand-stamped proof of date of actual postmark of your rescission letter. In your letter, also overtly state that you will be returning any and all issued "owner materials" under separate cover and separate mailing (...your later failure to do so would likely result in Westgate lawfully deducting $50 from your deposit-refund-to-be). You may not (and probably won't) actually see that deposit refund completed for a few weeks.

The Westgate Weasels will call you once they receive your letter of rescission, in a desperate last-ditch effort to try to "sweeten" and /or salvage the deal (...and to try to save their disappearing commission).
To repeat earlier advice provided to you by several different people, do not take those calls and do not have any further oral conversation with these people after you mail the rescission letter. The law will take care of all the rest. As low as Westgate might be, they are not going to risk playing any games (...except for the desperate, inevitable and imminent "please save our sale" phone call, which you hopefully won't even answer...). With a properly prepared and timely submitted contract rescission, playing any further games with the rescinding (former) buyer would be a clear, overt and actionable violation of state law on the part of the developer. Even the slimy pond scum at Westgate very clearly understand that they have no other choice than to process a properly submitted rescission and issue a refund of the purchase deposit.

You're dodging a serious bullet here and reversing a huge mistake while you still can. Count your blessings.

P.S. You have made reference to a "monthly payment". This suggests that you also financed this mistake. You may have to separately address the cancellation of that loan if there is a third party lender involved (check your paperwork). IF the loan is internally financed by Westgate themselves (which is quite possible, since banks have tended to stay away from Westgate since around 2009), your rescission letter will also suffice to initiate the termination of any applicable internal Westgate loan.
 
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Ydididothis, it looks like you have the situation well in hand. If, after you get your refund and have breathed a deep sigh of relief, if timeshare still seems like a good way to vacation (it is), c'mon back and we'll happily show you how it's done for little to no upfront cost, and dealing with honorable people instead of whale poop.

We are conducting a little informal survey here to see and keep up a running total of how much money TUG has saved people by giving them the straight scoop on rescinding. If you wouldn't mind, about how much were you about to get on the hook for? So far in the last 4-5 years, the total verified- that we can locate a number on, and of course not countong those who just read the threads and rescind on their own, is over (drum roll, please) $600,000.

Jim
 
I respectfully disagree with this characterization...

<snip> ... c'mon back and we'll happily show you how it's done for little to no upfront cost, and dealing with honorable people instead of whale poop. <snip>

For the record, Westgate is considerably lower than whale excrement on the ocean floor (IMnsHO). :rolleyes:
 
First time I've been called cheritable after calling them whale poop. But if the shoe fits.......

I was appalled after reading that a TUGger, who knows their ways, still wanted a certain Wastegate week they found resale. Then found that since they would be resale buyers, they could only book at 90 days out instead of a year, that to exchange it would be $450 instead of $60, that they would have to pay for parking and internet. The TUGger, being skeptical, spoke to 4 at Wastegate HQ and verified this.

Not only does Wastegate screw new buyers, they make their product impossible to resell. SeaGull and co. have zero scruples. No redeeming values at all.

Jim
 
.......

I was appalled after reading that a TUGger, who knows their ways, still wanted a certain Wastegate week they found resale. Then found that since they would be resale buyers, they could only book at 90 days out instead of a year, that to exchange it would be $450 instead of $60, that they would have to pay for parking and internet. The TUGger, being skeptical, spoke to 4 at Wastegate HQ and verified this.

I am so glad that member brought his thoughts to the board and found this out before it was too late.

A good lesson for us all, as much as we may think we know, there are things we need help with.
 
Thank you for all of the advice so far. I know the general rule is NOT to answer any calls from them. But the closing officer has been calling me and left me messages that he can't start the process until I speak with him. I assume he is lying?
 
I assume he is lying?

That's a safe assumption. But I think that by now you are pretty well inoculated from their tricks. You know that the only person or department you care about is the one who issues the refunds. If he does get through to you and it's anything BUT assuring you when to expect your refund, hang up on him.

Odds are the only thing the closing officer wants to do is save his sale and commission. He will say ANYTHING to accomplish this. If his lips are moving.....you know the rest.

Jim
 
But the closing officer has been calling me and left me messages that he can't start the process until I speak with him.

Maybe as a (somewhat cruel) joke, call him back after all your rescission has been completed including money refunded. Call back and say something along the lines of "Hi. I'm returning your phone call. Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I was really busy figuring out what to do with all that money I saved by rescinding." :rofl:
 
Thank you for all of the advice so far. I know the general rule is NOT to answer any calls from them. But the closing officer has been calling me and left me messages that he can't start the process until I speak with him. I assume he is lying?

Because the closing officer is calling you, it is a certainty that the right people have received your rescission letter. They have passed the word on to the closer to try to save a sale.

That closing officer is not the one who will process your rescission so you are right, he is lying.

(It would be nice to have a smiley of a lizard wagging its tongue here.)

Personally I would not bother to call him after you get your refund.
 
Because the closing officer is calling you, it is a certainty that the right people have received your rescission letter. They have passed the word on to the closer to try to save a sale.

That closing officer is not the one who will process your rescission so you are right, he is lying.

(It would be nice to have a smiley of a lizard wagging its tongue here.)

Personally I would not bother to call him after you get your refund.

IF you decided to call him then you'd want to repeat, like a robot, "We are exercising our legal right to rescind the contract". Period. Oh, and when you are ready, "Goodbye".
 
That closing officer is not the one who will process your rescission so you are right, he is lying.

(It would be nice to have a smiley of a lizard wagging its tongue here.


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Thanks guys for all of the advice. I will feel much more at ease once I actually get the refund. Haha.
 
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