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Marriott purchase spring break weeks-help [Canyon Villas]

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HI-we are new to marriott and in process of buying a used timeshare at marriott canyon Villas in Scottsdale, AZ. Is a Platinum even year a good one to start with for trade-ins or bookings during march high season? Is an odd or even one a good deal and what would be a good price for an even year at this year-platinum 2 bedroom lock-off-we don't want any other size or season.:cheer:
 
I just bought one for $3499 including closing and resort transfer a couple months ago. Canyon platinum eoy odd. I probably could have gotten it for a little less but I don't know it was my first offer and I didn't know to haggle more.
 
I have heard its hard to get a march week though. I haven't personally tried to yet because I just closed a couple months ago and just wanted any decent week to trade.
 
PearlCity is correct -- it is difficult to get a March reservation. You will need to act at the earliest possible second (notice I said second, not minute) to get a reservation.

A Canyon Villa platinum week is a very strong trader on II, whatever the date of the week you deposit.
 
Many folks who own Canyon own more than one, so we all reserve at 13 month so you will have trouble.

Be aware that Marriott continues to change how time shares work and when you buy a time share the only thing you are buying is the use of that week during your season.
Most folks who are unhappy with time shares are those that bought with the hope that they would be able to trade where and when they want.
If you are flexible than trading can work, if not you will be very disappointed.
There is also no guarantee that in the future Marriott will change the program even more and continue to reduce the ability to trade weeks for weeks.

If you know all this and still want to buy, Canyon is a great place and has been a strong trader thought I use it mostly for staying as I love Scottsdale in March.
 
I have an EOY gold even week and I have always been able to get good trades:)
 
Marriott purchase spring break weeks-help

HI-we are in midst of trasaction for a 2 bedroom platinum floating at marriott canyon Villas in scottsdale. However i have been getting some feedback on here which is making me rething the purchase. We are wanting to go over spring break--is it impossible to get this week since we only would have the one week and otrhers have 2 giving them priority?
 
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htusa2002 said:
HI-we are in midst of trasaction for a 2 bedroom platinum floating at marriott canyon Villas in scottsdale. However i have been getting some feedback on here which is making me rething the purchase. We are wanting to go over spring break--is it impossible to get this week since we only would have the one week and otrhers have 2 giving them priority?
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First question is if you're buying this from Marriott or on the resale market?

And, to answer your question.. yes, many owners may have a privilege of a 13 month reservation window (depends on property, but frequently multiple weeks owners). Further complicating this are Destination Club Premier and Premier Plus members who also have 13 month reservation privileges.

So, often the most popular weeks in your season (silver, gold, platinum, etc.) may be scooped up by them.

You may still be able exchange into them or waitlist them, but there are no guarantees.
 
It partly depends on you

htusa2002 said:
HI-we are in midst of trasaction for a 2 bedroom platinum floating at marriott canyon Villas in scottsdale. However i have been getting some feedback on here which is making me rething the purchase. We are wanting to go over spring break--is it impossible to get this week since we only would have the one week and otrhers have 2 giving them priority?
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I was told by a Marriott Reservation person that 1/2 the inventory is made available at the 13 mo. point and the other 1/2 at the 12 month point. So, you might be at a bit of a disadvantage but not an extreme one.

If you buy, plan on looking up and understanding the Marriott 365 day calendar and plan on being on the phone and/or on-line as soon as they open. Their check-in week starts on a Friday. So the 365 day point is something like a Wednesday a year in advance (changes with leap year). On that day, you can make reservations for either Fri, Sat or Sun check-in.

I've had good luck making reservations and also trading my Marriott Desert Springs II gold LO week for larger Marriott units and for low platinum weeks. I think that the Canyon Villas is a better trader also.

Your own success at getting the week that you want will somewhat depend on you. If you're willing to get up early to make the reservation 365 days in advance and have some flexibility in your dates, you should be successful most years. On the years that you aren't successful, then reserve the best week that you can and trade it.

BTW, one of the things that makes spring break in Phoenix in even higher demand is that they host spring training camps for many professional baseball teams. Lots of people come in to watch them play.
 
Don't they still limit the number of 13-month reservations to only 50% of total units in a resort? Also, wouldn't those owners need to reserve at least 2 units for the same week, or 1 unit for 2 weeks in a row? If I trade one of my weeks, I don't think I get to reserve the renaining one at 13 months.
 
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Don't they still limit the number of 13-month reservations to only 50% of total units in a resort? Also, wouldn't those owners need to reserve at least 2 units for the same week, or 1 unit for 2 weeks in a row? If I trade one of my weeks, I don't think I get to reserve the renaining one at 13 months.
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50% of the reservations are held until the 12 month mark.

If you have 2 weeks you can book them at the 13 month mark either consecutively or contiguously. Wait until the 12 month mark to deposit one for trading purposes. Make sure you get separate reservation numbers for each week, btw. In the past, people deposited at the 13 month mark but Marriott has the right to cancel reservations, although no one has reported them exercising that right. To be safe, I'd wait till 12 months before depositing.
 
I think for.any floating week timeshare you own you run the risk of not getting the week you want. I can say this though. It trades decently. I just lockoffed my unit in late Sept reserved a Jan week in 2013 for the 1 Br side and pulled a ko.olina 4th of July week. My studio portion pulled ko olina for memorial day week. I threwback my studio because I'm hoping for an up trade but those two weeks are not bad trades.both trades came through in less than two days.

I asked this same question a couple of months ago. I think the response from one tugger was she got march once in the four years she called. But again I think you'll fave the same situation with any floating week timeshare you buy.
 
CV is the only one-week TS I own and to be honest, booking any prime week there is a real pain...Spring Break is probably the toughest of all. I've always had to settle for a week in mid April.

Owners with two weeks have 2 shots at getting their week...13 and 12 months ahead. I do this for BeachPlace and Manor Club and have never missed getting what I wanted...but not at Canyon Villas as I only have 1 week there. But, you might be lucky...however, booking is one of the insecurities of Marriott timeshares. The other is MF annual increases of 5 to 15%. Last time I looked, CV is my only TS that hasn't announced the 2013 increase...which might indicate a huge one!

Another caution...if it's not driving distance from your home and have kids plus car rental you might find it a costly vacation each year. Unlike those who recently bought resale, I bought direct and still trade for points one year and in the other year book to trade both parts of the lockoff in II, simply because I'm bored with Phoenix and Arizona.

Brian
 
Marriott Canyon Villas bad purchase? Hgvc better

Hi,
After reading on here it sounds lie a platinum floating week a Marriott Canyon Villas is a really bad buy and ou can get good weeks or trades? I thought Marriott owners have priority for three weeks in II , but it seems like the new point systems taking everything away to book the good weeks. Maybe I am better off buying hgvc points instead? Any advice would help.
 
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htusa2002 said:
Hi,
After reading on here it sounds lie a platinum floating week a Marriott Canyon Villas is a really bad buy and ou can get good weeks or trades? I thought Marriott owners have priority for three weeks in II , but it seems like the new point systems taking everything away to book the good weeks. Maybe I am better off buying hgvc points instead? Any advice would help.
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This has nothing to do with points or trade.
Spring Break at Canyon Villas has always been hard.
It doesn't get traded as most folks book it to stay or rent.
Other weeks trade just a well in II, so there is no reason to go through the hassle just to to trade.
So having II priority doesn't matter, as the weeks are not there.
 
Regarding hgvc points you're limited pretty much to Vegas, Orlando and Hawaii. Read the owners guide hgvc has a lot of fees, reservation fee. Club fee, and parking fees. It's a great system but make sure you fully do your research before jumping in. Another system you.might want to look into is worldmark. I was just discussing which system to buy into with my husband last night. Worldmark is opening a south phoenix timeshare and has a lot of west coast locations. It's supposed to be a great trader too.

As for the preference, yes Marriott owners have preference in II, and it is particularly helpful in uptrades.

If you think you want to go to phoenix any other time of year but march I would say get canyon villas. I'm able to see all the other timeshares in phoenix for every month but march in II, including Westin kierland.
 
Hgvc only Florida and Vegas?

Hi in response I was pretty sure hgvc has a ton of affiliates to trade into and also rci for anything so not sure why it would be more limiting than Marriott wouldn't it I've you more options?
 
htusa2002 said:
Hi in response I was pretty sure hgvc has a ton of affiliates to trade into and also rci for anything so not sure why it would be more limiting than Marriott wouldn't it I've you more options?
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while RCI has more resorts than II IMHO the resorts in II are often nicer. Marriott, Westin & Four Seasons are all II resort systems. These three systems all have great resorts in Phx too.
 
htusa2002 said:
Hi in response I was pretty sure hgvc has a ton of affiliates to trade into and also rci for anything so not sure why it would be more limiting than Marriott wouldn't it I've you more options?
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That's true but try asking in the HGVC Thread about ease of booking into the affiliates. From my reading there it just seemed like it isn't as easy with the new reservation system to book online for all affiliates. Which then requires you to call, upping your reservation fee. I would post in the HGVC forum or search in there and just do your research prior to buying into HGVC to make sure you fully understand what you are buying. I'm not a hgvc owner and still in the HGVC research mode myself.
 
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