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Westin kaanapali resort - considering purchase, need some advice : )

Hey,

I want to put in a plug for Maui Ocean Club -- I love that place!

We also have nice ocean views...

Best,

Greg

MOC62062June2011.jpg
 
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Hey,

I want to put in a plug for Maui Ocean Club -- I love that place!

We also have nice ocean views...

Best,

Greg

Off topic, but what are those interesting boats in the background?
 
Hey,

I want to put in a plug for Maui Ocean Club -- I love that place!

We also have nice ocean views...

Best,

Greg

MOC62062June2011.jpg

Hey Greg
Is that an oceanfront unit? We are heading there in a week, and staying in an OV. Have requested Molakai tower, facing BlackRock.

Gary
 
This is the view from 6206 -- its a 3BR corner unit -- we love it and go every week 25. I'm trying to buy the adjacent weeks (either 24 or 26) but no dice from the current owners.

This picture was from 2011 when some Polynesian ships were making a tour of the Hawaiian islands. They sailed from whereever they were from, and came through Maui our week en route to Oahu. They were beautiful!

Its a great property, and you can't go wrong with either WKORV or MOC.

Best,

Greg
 
The OP has a toddler now. Some people are okay with taking their kids out of school for vacations. I did that until 2nd grade and then it just got too difficult to make up the work. It really depends on the nature of your school district or private school. But where we go to school you make up all worked missed including class work. It can be stressful to try and work on it between school and other activities or commitments. Our teachers here don't give out the work in advance and I don't blame them as it is extra work to get it together. So, when we got back from vacation the work just became a battle of the wills. Plus, my kids love school and don't want to miss out on the stuff happening there.

I do think it is a good idea to think about how you will use the time share now and in the future. It seems like a long way off, but your now toddler will be in school before you know it. We bought our TS when our kids were in elementary school because we loved the idea of having more space when traveling. We still like the extra space, but now that my kids are older, it is getting harder and harder to plan travels in advance, and to even find a week everyone in the family is available. Having time away to reconnect as a family once a year is non-negotiable to me, but planning a year in advance has been difficult. It's easy in theory to say, "This is our family time, it's already planned." But what happens when your kid has been working so hard on their sports team, band, academic team, whatever they participate in, for the whole school year and the team qualifies for the state finals, which just so happens to overlap with your Hawaii week?

In a few more year, that will change again when the kids are out of the house and DH and I have more flexibility to travel on our own. I'm sure we will change the way we travel once again when grandkids come around. Not that a time share has to be a permanent purchase, but there are so many people that seem to buy based on their needs at the moment, and then are desperate to unload it five years down the road when it has become an underutilized financial burden.
 
I do think it is a good idea to think about how you will use the time share now and in the future. It seems like a long way off, but your now toddler will be in school before you know it. We bought our TS when our kids were in elementary school because we loved the idea of having more space when traveling. We still like the extra space, but now that my kids are older, it is getting harder and harder to plan travels in advance, and to even find a week everyone in the family is available. Having time away to reconnect as a family once a year is non-negotiable to me, but planning a year in advance has been difficult. It's easy in theory to say, "This is our family time, it's already planned." But what happens when your kid has been working so hard on their sports team, band, academic team, whatever they participate in, for the whole school year and the team qualifies for the state finals, which just so happens to overlap with your Hawaii week?

In a few more year, that will change again when the kids are out of the house and DH and I have more flexibility to travel on our own. I'm sure we will change the way we travel once again when grandkids come around. Not that a time share has to be a permanent purchase, but there are so many people that seem to buy based on their needs at the moment, and then are desperate to unload it five years down the road when it has become an underutilized financial burden.

Actually, our vacation time has been cut down to pretty much 3 weeks a year. My kids are in band, competitive water polo, swim, soccer, tennis, etc... But the 3 weeks that work for us are July 4th, Thanksgiving and New Years Week. No body really plans anything those weeks. we are in rec swim and at this point my do not care if they miss. Without owning my time share weeks we would not be able to trade or rent into these popular weeks. One thing that is cool is that my Marriott weeks I own are with the DC program which is perfect for us now as I can pretty much pick the check in days. An example when we go to Marco Island it is a Wed to Wed stay. If the OP really wants a timeshare I would even explore other timeshares that are more flexible that are more of a point base program. My oldest the other day was just learning that vacation is very expensive and still wants to travel with us in her adult years if I pay of course. When she told me that I got a little tears eyed for two reasons one is that she really remembers our vacation time together and two I know she isn't going to think like that in a few years when she is in college. She is a sophomore in high school. We still have 7 more years of traveling with our youngest. I'm happy I got my timeshares when my kids were toddlers. When they leave the nest we will definitely be traveling off season using our frequent flyer miles. Every family is different and I would never trade vacation time for anything else.
 
You might be surprised. I thought our kids would not want to travel with us anymore, but they still love to go to Hawaii or anywhere else we go at 25 and 22! It is us that occasionally want to travel by ourselves and choose not to take them from time to time. :)
 
You might be surprised. I thought our kids would not want to travel with us anymore, but they still love to go to Hawaii or anywhere else we go at 25 and 22! It is us that occasionally want to travel by ourselves and choose not to take them from time to time. :)
I sure hope so. I hope we can keep the tradition going. One thing I noticed when my dh and I got married is that we are not particularly close to our families. We don't do a lot together other than holidays. Anyways, we vowed once we had kids we would not do this. So, when my oldest was born we really fell into the rat race between both of us working and daycare, etc. We would work a lot not really vacation. During my oldest early years we did not do a lot of out of town traveling. We would do a bunch of little weekend trips. So when the 2nd one came along we realized that we had to do something to force on vacation for more than 2 days. So, we started exploring vacation homes but in the end decided that timeshares might fit our lifestyle better. Turns out our gamble paid off and it did fit us well. It is sad to say a vacation is the only way we relax. I know others are better at than us and can enjoy time at home. But as my kids have gotten older it is harder to carve out family time at home.
 
For us, it was very similar. My husband and I met in Hawaii in the military. When we moved back to the mainland US, we got caught up in work, and forgot to take time together for a few years. We quickly determined that having a timeshare and paying for that vacation every year would "encourage" us to take and enjoy that vacation. We now own 6 weeks, and although we can't vaca for 6 weeks a year, we enjoy booking a couple weeks at a time and bringing family, or friends along to enjoy with us. I really enjoy the luxury of space instead of small hotel rooms, or even hotel suites. All 3 of us are certified scuba divers, and I hope that keeps my son vacationing with us for years and years!!!
 
You might be surprised. I thought our kids would not want to travel with us anymore, but they still love to go to Hawaii or anywhere else we go at 25 and 22! It is us that occasionally want to travel by ourselves and choose not to take them from time to time. :)

Ditto here. Our kids (32 and 30 now) and their families know that our vacations are special times to leave work behind and simply have fun together!
 
We've always tried to travel together, but our Starwood timeshares have simplified the process and resulted in many vacations we probably wouldn't have taken except that they were already paid for upfront. The timeshares are not a financial investment and may not even be cheaper than renting in many cases, but they let you budget and plan vacations up front. We also take longer vacations with much more comfort than staying at a hotel (almost regardless of price).

We've used the timeshare mostly in the summer, but we've also exchanged to a place in Germany in the Spring and have exchanged within the Starwood network. We still like to go to Maui for a few weeks in the summer to get away from the Texas heat. It would be more difficult to do if we didn't own there, especially when the economy is good and people travel more.

I am fortunate that I can work remotely so we can go for longer periods without always having to rely on vacation time. I would not want to work if I were going somewhere for a week, but if I can go three or more weeks to a tropical paradise by working some during the time I am there, I am willing to make the trade-off. I couldn't be permanently off-site, but I am already away on business travel significantly, so vacation travel fits right in.

Our timeshare is kind of like buying vacations at Costco or some other warehouse club. You get a discount from normal retail, but you have to be able to use what you get for it to be worthwhile. I also don't have the time to see how I can squeeze every last penny so I prefer to own where I want to go and not go through the exchange process, except every once in a while.
 
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Hope my comments about a toddler, midway through the thread didn't confuse things. Didn't see any references by OP to a toddler.

All the advice from parents regarding timeshare travel and planning with kids from parents who have gone through this are priceless. Things I wouldn't have necessarily thought of, but are important. Love all the helpful advice from this community. Best $15 I've spent in a long time. Thanks!

Good suggestion by ciscogizmo1 to explore other programs. I'm a long time SPG member, so went down that route by default.

Is there something in the Marriott timeshare world that is similar to SDO or WKV? (i.e. ability to get Maui, but at much cheaper cost) Just starting to do research on the Marriott properties.
 
Is there something in the Marriott timeshare world that is similar to SDO or WKV? (i.e. ability to get Maui, but at much cheaper cost) Just starting to do research on the Marriott properties.

Check out the Marriott properties in Palm Springs (Desert Springs, Desert Springs II, and Shadow Ridge). Marriott's Maui Ocean Club is "comparable" to the Westin Maui properties.

Three big questions for you to research and consider:

1. View. If view is important to you when in Hawaii, Marriott exchanges will have the same issue as Westin exchanges -- no guarantees on view.

2. Marriott's Destination Club (i.e. points system). Marriott started this a couple of years ago. A whole lot has been written about it on this BBS. A resale Marriott purchase will not qualify for the destination club. My own opinion is that exchanges to superior properties outside of the destination club will become more difficult over time.

3. Season. Palm Springs is highly seasonal. In the past and currently, many have successfully exchanged shoulder and summer Palm Spring weeks into Hawaii. I don't believe this will continue. If I were to buy a Palm Springs week to trade, I would buy a prime week -- if the trading becomes difficult or impossible, I would at least own something I would use.
 
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But the 3 weeks that work for us are July 4th, Thanksgiving and New Years Week. No body really plans anything those weeks.

I think this actually depends on where you live and what activities the kids are involved in. My niece and nephew in Massachusetts have high school band and football on Thanksgiving day. And my son's boy scout troop often has their big summer camp adventure over July 4th week so that the adult chaperones can minimize the time they have to take off work. This past summer they were in Philmont and Colorado hiking and camping for two weeks. We generally can travel the last week in July, though.

Hope my comments about a toddler, midway through the thread didn't confuse things. Didn't see any references by OP to a toddler.

I think I did get confused. I just wanted to point out that many people buy based on their immediate needs, but don't plan for the future. I've only been a member of TUG for a year and have already seen tons of TS owners looking to unload cheaply because, for instance, they bought in Orlando when their kids were young, but now don't visit anymore. I'd hate for someone to buy SDO as a trader, but then not have the flexibility to get the place and dates they want three years down the road.
 
I think this actually depends on where you live and what activities the kids are involved in. My niece and nephew in Massachusetts have high school band and football on Thanksgiving day. And my son's boy scout troop often has their big summer camp adventure over July 4th week so that the adult chaperones can minimize the time they have to take off work. This past summer they were in Philmont and Colorado hiking and camping for two weeks. We generally can travel the last week in July, though.
Omgosh... obviously, I didn't explain myself well. I didn't mean to say these are the only weeks people with school aged children should travel. I said that these are the weeks that works for me and I wouldn't get them without timesharing. Of course, others are going to have some weeks that work totally different for them. Why would you think that I think that is the only weeks you can vacation? A little odd if you ask me. I still say in general with school aged children if you want to travel during vacation time it will be peak time. We can't travel during our ski week or spring break because of work commitments so, we don't. My kids do not do marching band as we don't have a marching band here. They actually do Jazz band. I would hope people could figure out their situation and what weeks works best for them. I've also have learned that our situation is constantly changing and I must adjust the schedule but for the last 3 years 4th July, Thanksgiving and New Year's week has been our schedule.

We've been timesharing over 10 years now. I do think we lucky in that timesharing works for us and we fit the perfect timesharing "people". We plan a year in advance. We don't like to do last minute trips. We bought where we like to go for the most part. We've traded many times but we do own platinum weeks and I feel that gives us an advantage over someone who owns a lesser week. I would never tell someone what to do or not to do. I only share my experience. Whether it works for you and your situation is totally up to you.
 
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Why would you think that I think that is the only weeks you can vacation? A little odd if you ask me. I still say in general with school aged children if you want to travel during vacation time it will be peak time.

I didn't read that into her answer at all. I just read it as a continual dialogue where the two of you were exchanging information as to what worked for each of you, personally, in hopes of encouraging folks to consider their own situation to determine what system would work best for them.

Me? We have a lake house that's been in our family since it was built shortly after the TVA project that built that lake. My kids were not allowed to sign up for summer sports because that was our lake time. Family time trumps sports. The rest of the year was theirs to do with as they please, but no summer sports.

Now that the girls are both in college, they get out the first of May. I am very excited to be traveling in May again. Fewer crowds and much better lodging and transportation rates! Woot!
 
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