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WEEKS owners - FACTS/QUESTIONS - new RCI Program

Thanks for the info...

I signed up just to explain this to you. I used to read your posts when I was employed at RCI, simply to understand the mindset of some of the members I spoke to who seemed chronically unhappy.

The reason for having the downward filter might seem simplistic, but if you had to take phone calls on the weekend at RCI, you would understand after one or two shifts. They do it to prevent owners of Gold Crown properties calling in to complain about their units. You would be amazed at the number of people who don't do any research on the unit they are booking. If I had a dollar for every time I saw or heard of a member freaking out about the Banyan Club in Oahu, I would be a richer man. The reviews are quite frank, and most vacation guides will do anything possible to steer members from that resort.

It is for those situations that RCI has the trade down "block" in place. It creates too many problems, wastes phone time, and makes members unhappy.

C'mon. Tell the truth. Is there really a "Frustrate Carolinian" subroutine in the RCI Weeks software application?:rofl:
 
C'mon. Tell the truth. Is there really a "Frustrate Carolinian" subroutine in the RCI Weeks software application?:rofl:

RCI was smart enough to put a mute button on every phone for a reason. While swearing is a termination offense, it only counts if you are heard.
 
another new twist

Before buying Mayan Palace timeshares, I used to go on RCI (from another ts ownership) and buy Extra Vacations to mayan resort properties. Then, they instituted one in 4 rules, so I had to buy MP and did buy 2 on ebay. This has (had) worked well bec I would use one week and its accompanying fair trade week, for a 2 week stay...and split and deposit the 2nd 2 bedroom unit in RCI for 2 trades. I could trade into MP and Grand Mayan. The rules at the bottom of the select available weeks page stated that mayan owners had to bank mayan to use mayan.
For next Feb/March, I have booked 2 Grand Mayan weeks using 2 MP deposits. Now, my MP deposits will not trade for GM, but my other weeks will.
I called RCI yesterday, eventually was switched to a mayan rep, and was told I could not trade for GM with MP bec it was an upgrade. To make matters worse, she said I could not trade down for Sea Garden either. Now, MP can only be traded for MP....which is new to me.
But the system will allow me to trade my Sheraton Buganvilia and Poconos Shawnee to trade for MP, GM and SG...very strange...new rules.:shrug:
 
Before buying Mayan Palace timeshares, I used to go on RCI (from another ts ownership) and buy Extra Vacations to mayan resort properties. Then, they instituted one in 4 rules, so I had to buy MP and did buy 2 on ebay. This has (had) worked well bec I would use one week and its accompanying fair trade week, for a 2 week stay...and split and deposit the 2nd 2 bedroom unit in RCI for 2 trades. I could trade into MP and Grand Mayan. The rules at the bottom of the select available weeks page stated that mayan owners had to bank mayan to use mayan.
For next Feb/March, I have booked 2 Grand Mayan weeks using 2 MP deposits. Now, my MP deposits will not trade for GM, but my other weeks will.
I called RCI yesterday, eventually was switched to a mayan rep, and was told I could not trade for GM with MP bec it was an upgrade. To make matters worse, she said I could not trade down for Sea Garden either. Now, MP can only be traded for MP....which is new to me.
But the system will allow me to trade my Sheraton Buganvilia and Poconos Shawnee to trade for MP, GM and SG...very strange...new rules.:shrug:

The rules at the bottom state a Mayan owner must deposit a week. It does not specify a Mayan week. As a Mayan owner I have been using a Arizona studio for the past few years to trade into GM. As a Mayan owner you are not limited by 1 in 4 rule but can not use last call or extra vacations.
 
The rules at the bottom state a Mayan owner must deposit a week. It does not specify a Mayan week. As a Mayan owner I have been using a Arizona studio for the past few years to trade into GM. As a Mayan owner you are not limited by 1 in 4 rule but can not use last call or extra vacations.
Jim,
I know I am not affected anymore by the 1/5 rule, and I know I can't use last call or extra vacations, but I don't understand or believe they mean:

Important: Mayan owners traveling to Mayan must deposit a week to exchange, Extra vacations to Mayan are not allowed.

that a Mayan owner must deposit a week and it doesn't have to be MP. I interpret it to mean a Mayan week. Of course you have to deposit a week, how else can you trade if you don't deposit a week??
 
It means you must exchange you can not use extra or last call.
 
Well, I decided to give RCI a call this afternoon because I wanted to get a few questions answered.

HOME RESORT PREFERENCE
Like others who have posted previously, I was told that it only puts you ahead of non-owners in line, but that you must have enough trade power for the trade. So, if the week I deposit is even 1 credit less than the exchange I am trying to make -- I was told it would not happen without combining points.

We enjoy our home resort, but it's a real cat-fight to get summer weeks. Unfortunately, it's a floating week resort and everybody wants summer. (All units are gone within the 1st five minutes on reservation call-in days) So, it's always been nice that on the years we called the resort 20 different times, and never got a week -- we could deposit the best week we could get, pay the RCI fee and exchange back in the following summer. But there's no way for that to happen now. RCI is saying they won't let you back into your own resort during the summer (or peak season), like they used to, unless you have the new required point value.

Okay, what sucks the most about this --- is that I own a red/high season week at this resort. I am not a shoulder season owner trying to trade into a higher season than I purchased. I purchased a red, high season summer week. So, I have a real issue with RCI thinking that I should spend 2 weeks worth of maintenance fees, plus all of their fees -- for 1 week of exchange back to where I already own. ($750+$750+$99+$189 = $1,788) for 1 week of vacation? Are they insane? Or, do they just think I am really, really stupid? Did I mention that you can rent a summer week at my resort for 1/2 of that price ($850) on Redweek? And forget all this "change back" business. It's a moot point when you've got kids & can only travel when school's out.

Maybe the November 12th change may not have affected my trade power, but it certainly killed my ability to exchange back into my home resort during peak times. They also killed uptrades. If you want an uptrade to a larger unit now, you're going to have to pay the points for it. One by one, RCI's endless quest for ever-increasing corporate profits, is killing many of the advantages of owning a timeshare.

Please excuse my rant, but I am not a happy camper!

--- Rene
 
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We enjoy our home resort, but it's a real cat-fight to get summer weeks. Unfortunately, it's a floating week resort and everybody wants summer. (All units are gone within the 1st five minutes on reservation call-in days) So, it's always been nice that on the years we called the resort 20 different times, and never got a week -- we could deposit the best week we could get, pay the RCI fee and exchange back in the following summer. But there's no way for that to happen now. RCI is saying they won't let you back into your own resort during the summer (or peak season), like they used to, unless you have new required point value.

Okay, what sucks the most about this --- is that I own a red/high season week at this resort. I am not a shoulder season owner trying to trade into a higher season than I purchased. I purchased a red, high season summer week. So, I have a real issue with RCI thinking that I should spend 2 weeks worth of maintenance fees, plus all of their fees -- for 1 week of exchange back to where I already own. ($750+$750+$99+$189 = $1,788) for 1 week of vacation? Are they insane? Or, do they just think I am really, really stupid?

--- Rene

It sounds more like they closed a loophole that you were able to take advantage of unfairly.

I think the question is, why don't you have preference when making the reservation through your home resort? If you bought such a high value week, it would seem that the resort should be the one giving you preference.

The way I've always understood the mission of RCI is that they are built to allow you to trade into a different resort from where you own. Being able to trade into a different week at your resort is simply a by-product of that.

As far as the value in RCI, if you have a high red summer week, what week are you looking for that has a higher cost then what you are being given?
 
Home group priority (the ability to trade up) is a feature that the resort groups negotiated with RCI. Here's an excerpt from a 2005 letter from RCI to one of my resorts, with the resort group name removed and emphasis mine:

[Group] owners requesting an internal exchange at their home resort will continue to have priority over RCI members that do not own a [Group] property, furthermore exchange priority ranking includes when a blue week [Group] owner is requesting a red week at their home resort.

I have a feeling that the resort groups will be working to get this back, once they hear that it's been removed.
 
My responses are located below the comments/questions.
--- Rene


"It sounds more like they closed a loophole that you were able to take advantage of unfairly."

Unfair to whom? The people who don't own at my resort, or pay maintenance fees like I do? Preferences for owners vs. exchangers is touted by every resort. It's one of the big reasons people buy timeshares. I've never met a timeshare salesman who didn't mention the advantages of "owner preference" & the ability to exchange back into your home resort.

"I think the question is, why don't you have preference when making the reservation through your home resort? If you bought such a high value week, it would seem that the resort should be the one giving you preference."

My resort apparently made a larger chunk of the calendar year red than was truly warranted, and the off-season/white weeks smaller. Unfortunately, you don't find out these types of things until after you purchase. Ours was not the only resort to do this, as it allows the developer to sell more expensive red weeks. But even putting that issue aside, what would you define as summer? Most people would say "June, July & August", right? I would. 3 Months, roughly 12 weeks.

But for my resort, RCI has given the highest trade power to only the middle 6 summer weeks. The last week of June which includes 4th of July, all of July, and the 1st week of August. That's it. First 3 weeks of June & last 3 weeks of August are valued at substantially less, so quite a drop. Sept 1 - May 31 are much lower, unless they have a holiday. Trade power has actually been this way for several years now. So even though the numbers were previously unpublished, owners knew they needed these peak weeks to get good trade power with RCI. The cat fight to get those weeks will be only worse now (and at many floating resorts). But I don't blame RCI for that. I think that publishing trade power is a good thing. Where I strongly disagree with RCI is their narrow definition of summer as basically "6 weeks". Summer is a season - June, July & August - not just July!

"The way I've always understood the mission of RCI is that they are built to allow you to trade into a different resort from where you own. Being able to trade into a different week at your resort is simply a by-product of that."

We have made some nice exchanges through RCI to lots of exotic and interesting places, but we have more than one week & also enjoy going to our home resort. Is there anything wrong with that? As long as I'm paying an annual membership fee + the $189 RCI exchange fee. Why would RCI care whether I want to have an inexpensive drive-to vacation to my home resort, or fly 3,000 miles to my exchange. Either way, RCI get's paid.

But the real, true answer for why I often trade back into my own resort is... I can't get what I want from RCI... Luckily for me, I followed the TUG rule & bought at a resort I like. Good thing, too. Because there have been several times when we have given up after having ongoing searches for 12-18 months, and just gone back to our home resort.

"As far as the value in RCI, if you have a high red summer week, what week are you looking for that has a higher cost then what you are being given?"

Well, that's a little bit personal. But I will say that we called this summer trying to get a peak week, but could only get the RCI "shoulder season" instead - last week of August. We are 18 points short of what it would take to exchange back in while our kids are out of school for summer. There is no way I'm paying 2 maintenance fees +$189 + $99 combo fees to get back in ($1,788 total). So, I'll probably just rent my week for $850, then take that money & rent someone else's week at the resort for $850. Because guess what? All the summer weeks there rent for roughly the same amount. All of June, all of July, and all of August.
 
It sounds more like they closed a loophole that you were able to take advantage of unfairly.

I think the question is, why don't you have preference when making the reservation through your home resort? If you bought such a high value week, it would seem that the resort should be the one giving you preference.

The way I've always understood the mission of RCI is that they are built to allow you to trade into a different resort from where you own. Being able to trade into a different week at your resort is simply a by-product of that.

As far as the value in RCI, if you have a high red summer week, what week are you looking for that has a higher cost then what you are being given?

Not all resorts are floating. For fixed week resorts, the HOA could not assign a member someone else's week. Yet fixed week resorts also have had home resort preferences.

This is just one more example that RCI was lying through its teeth when it claimed it was not changing trading power when it moved to Points Lite.
 
So, what you are saying is that RCI designed this rule to pander to the witless drones who do not research their vacations while goosestepping all over the savvy travellers who know what they are doing? Great attitude!

It seems to me that there would be an easy compromise, and one several Tuggers have suggested over the years. That is to fax a form where the exchangers acknowledges that it is to a lower class of unit and waives any right to object. Let them sign it and fax it back and you should not get any whining, while still letting savvy travellers make their own decisions without RCI dictating things that make no sense.

The RCI employee I wish we had here on comment on RCI's doings is our old friend Bootleg.


I signed up just to explain this to you. I used to read your posts when I was employed at RCI, simply to understand the mindset of some of the members I spoke to who seemed chronically unhappy.

The reason for having the downward filter might seem simplistic, but if you had to take phone calls on the weekend at RCI, you would understand after one or two shifts. They do it to prevent owners of Gold Crown properties calling in to complain about their units. You would be amazed at the number of people who don't do any research on the unit they are booking. If I had a dollar for every time I saw or heard of a member freaking out about the Banyan Club in Oahu, I would be a richer man. The reviews are quite frank, and most vacation guides will do anything possible to steer members from that resort.

It is for those situations that RCI has the trade down "block" in place. It creates too many problems, wastes phone time, and makes members unhappy.
 
Before buying Mayan Palace timeshares, I used to go on RCI (from another ts ownership) and buy Extra Vacations to mayan resort properties. Then, they instituted one in 4 rules, so I had to buy MP...
Extra Vacations can have 1-in-4 rules? I thought 1-in-4 applied only to exchanges, not rentals. Is this a special Grupo Mayan rule?



The reason for having the downward filter might seem simplistic...They do it to prevent owners of Gold Crown properties calling in to complain about their units....
It is for those situations that RCI has the trade down "block" in place. It creates too many problems, wastes phone time, and makes members unhappy.

Now that there is more transparency, wouldn't it be apparent to people that they are trading down? If your resort had 40 credits and the one you get costs 6, wouldn't that be a clue? ...
But trading power has nothing to do with VEP. Lots of resorts have high TP and low VEP, or vice-versa.

I own at a rather plain resort where most units don't even have a tub, just a shower. The Trading Power is 38 during the summer. I can just see what Gold Crown owners would say: "I traded my luxury unit with two jacuzzis for this dump that doesn't even have a bathtub?!?!?" (Except now, they'd probably say: "I traded two years worth of credits at my luxury unit with two jacuzzis for this dump that doesn't even have a bathtub?!?!?")



FrmrVacGuide said to Carolinian:
I signed up just to explain this to you. I used to read your posts when I was employed at RCI, simply to understand the mindset of some of the members I spoke to who seemed chronically unhappy....
While reading Steve's (Carolinian's) posts these past days, I can't help wondering why he hates RCI so much. I think it's primarily because he feels RCI should do more to help out HOAs who have way off-season weeks that they need to deal with. The strange thing is, the new, transparent trading system makes it clear that RCI is subsidizing the way off-season weeks.

Ok, Steve, if you could make just one change at RCI, what would it be? And would you be happy with RCI then?
 
The one change I would make at RCI is to bring back the Crystal de Hahn system (founder of RCI and owner until Cendant bought it).

No, RCI does not have an obligation to ''sudsidize'' off season owners, but they have a moral obligation based on the sales assistance materials they long provided to developers to maintain the 45 day window as something that gives value to the off season weeks. This is not giving them a trade up, as last minute inventory in the leisure travel industry is distressed and devalued inventory. Cendant policies over the last several years have diluted the 45 day window value to the off season owners. Renting it to non-members and allowing Points members access to last minute Weeks inventory are two of the biggest things that have done this. Points Lite adds even more competition for the off season owners. RCI is really sandbagging the HOA's here because now the developers have moved on and the HOA's have no sales force to resell these weeks on any other theory. The developers cannot be blamed because they were merely pushing something that RCI itself was heavily pushing in its promo materials.

That is my big issue when wearing my former HOA board member hat.

As an individual member, my biggest problems with RCI are:
1) Their rental program to the general public, and
2) Their allowing Points members access to Weeks inventory, especially at the unfair and dishonest crossover grid rates
and now:
3) Their imposition of a points type program on Weeks, coupled with dishonest valuations of many resorts and resort areas in that change
 
double dip costs?

If I pay $99 to combine (and extend) two expiring weeks, do I again have to pay a combining fee in the future if I have leftover points once I've used the combined points for an exchange?
 
If I pay $99 to combine (and extend) two expiring weeks, do I again have to pay a combining fee in the future if I have leftover points once I've used the combined points for an exchange?

You'd only have to pay another combining fee on those leftover points after exchanging IF you want to combine them with another deposit in order to use them to get a more expensive exchange or in order to extend their use date another 2 years.

People should keep in mind that it may not always be worth the $99 to save a few credits, expecially if the only way to do it is to deposit a new week way early. You'll lose use time on the new deposit and you may not get the most credits for the new deposit either.
 
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I have a feeling that the resort groups will be working to get this back, once they hear that it's been removed.
Maybe. I can't imagine Wyndham really cares if its garden variety (resale) owners can get cheap trades back into Wyndham properties through RCI. I suspect Wyndham would rather have their owners get discounts by virtue of the (ridiculously overpriced) VIP program.
 
I signed up just to explain this to you. I used to read your posts when I was employed at RCI, simply to understand the mindset of some of the members I spoke to who seemed chronically unhappy.

The reason for having the downward filter might seem simplistic, but if you had to take phone calls on the weekend at RCI, you would understand after one or two shifts. They do it to prevent owners of Gold Crown properties calling in to complain about their units. You would be amazed at the number of people who don't do any research on the unit they are booking. If I had a dollar for every time I saw or heard of a member freaking out about the Banyan Club in Oahu, I would be a richer man. The reviews are quite frank, and most vacation guides will do anything possible to steer members from that resort.

It is for those situations that RCI has the trade down "block" in place. It creates too many problems, wastes phone time, and makes members unhappy.

I definitely get it. It hurts the ordinary resorts to have people with high expectations to stay there, too.

We own at a very ordinary ski resort, in Winter Park, CO, not in Summit or Eagle counties, where people want to be. Needs some new furniture, needs some paint and carpet, very cheap board of directors, etc. Cannot get them to do anything really substantial to create a quality unit. They won't assess, won't increase fees by more than $25 per year, we have a huge vacancy rate, and the units just get worse every year.

Some Hilton owners, and other high-quality resort owners, have been assigned to our resort after RCI made huge mistakes with availability.

For example, RCI assigned too many people to units in Summit County for prime ski season, especially weeks 51 and 52 last year, and had to switch those people to our resort. We are not where they wanted to be, so we were dinged for everything on the RCI comment cards: unit quality, area, amenities, and absolutely anything they could throw at us, we suffered for it.

We noticed the units those exchangers used for trade, while reviewing the scores, and Hiltons were in several. I don't want Hilton owners exchanging into my resorts, not even our Summit County resort. They are too picky and don't realize that they are hurting US when they give us all bad scores, simply because the unit quality is not what they expect.

Take your ridiculous expectations of flatscreens and plush furniture to an equally nice place to what you own. Stay away from podunk, dinky little resorts that have limited amenities, no activities and average accommdations. Don't take a replacement week in another county that you don't want and then gripe about it.

Actual comments:

"We were told we had a unit in Breckenridge, but RCI overbooked, so we were stuck here, in this awful "resort". It smells and has nothing to do. The hot tubs are cold. The shuttle that takes you to the ski resort doesn't come by quickly enough. It's boring here, if you don't ski. On the bright side, if there is one, there is a crockpot in the unit that saved us time and money buying food in the evenings." This was a Hilton owner.

"This is no where near where we wanted to be for a new years week of skiing. this place sucks." Another Hilton owner.

"The unit quality is lacking for sure. We haven't been so disappointed in our lives. RCI gave us back our week of deposit, and that is the only right thing to do." Orange Lake owner.

In Summit County, our resort has few amenities, but we do have private one-car garages, private hot tubs on each deck, and a full-sized washer and dryer, and 2 1/2 baths. Yet the exchangers actually say we have no amenities. How does RCI define amenities? Pools, clubhouses, exercise facilities, etc. Our "resort" doesn't have a pool, and it only has tennis courts, and a playground, and BBQ grills. That's it. So I guess Hilton owners think that is NO amenities.
 
My responses are located below the comments/questions.
--- Rene

You still get put ahead of non-owners, as you said in your original post. That would seem to mean that you are given preference.

If your resort made too much of the year red, that would be something you need to take up with them. RCI can't really do anything to fix that for you. If they went through and covered for all of the mistakes that resorts make, they would be making even more of you mad.

My understanding of "summer" at RCI is that it is all based on travel volume. Because of the ever-shrinking time off for kids, that window has condensed. If you want to see that change, I would suggest pressuring your elected officials to change the laws and makes schools start after Labor Day.

I've heard "I can't get what I want" from so many people that I beg you to forgive me when if I get a bit annoyed. Most of the people that I helped got the vacation they wanted. Of course, there was the woman who canceled her RCI account because we "never got her what she wanted" and had been to SW Florida four of five years.

I'm sorry, but to have a factual discussion about what you are trying to do, it would be necessary for me to know what you are trading, how far in advance you deposit it, where you were looking to travel, and when you started looking.
 
Not all resorts are floating. For fixed week resorts, the HOA could not assign a member someone else's week. Yet fixed week resorts also have had home resort preferences.

This is just one more example that RCI was lying through its teeth when it claimed it was not changing trading power when it moved to Points Lite.

I thought RCI was pretty upfront about the fact that TP does change over time. Why are you surprised that when they do the biggest change ever to the Weeks program, that they would update all of the trading power to reflect current market value?
 
So, what you are saying is that RCI designed this rule to pander to the witless drones who do not research their vacations while goosestepping all over the savvy travellers who know what they are doing? Great attitude!

It seems to me that there would be an easy compromise, and one several Tuggers have suggested over the years. That is to fax a form where the exchangers acknowledges that it is to a lower class of unit and waives any right to object. Let them sign it and fax it back and you should not get any whining, while still letting savvy travellers make their own decisions without RCI dictating things that make no sense.

The RCI employee I wish we had here on comment on RCI's doings is our old friend Bootleg.

What company doesn't create their products and programs to pander to the lowest common denominator? As someone who does all of the research, it can still work to your benefit. The vast majority of RCI members that I've dealt with want their exchange to be as simple as possible.

For example, I've spent the last couple of days going through Blue Green's website finding available week long reservations and then looking up what I'll get from RCI for that, to find my best option. Most Blue Green owners I talked to on the phone just called BG, said they wanted to deposit a week with RCI and that was it. They didn't even know that they could request a week at a specific resort to deposit. These are people who knew that different resorts had different trading power. Keep in mind, BG owners can reserve at The Suites at Hershey, Lodge Alley Inn (Charleston, SC), and a place in Aruba.

They did try something similar to that for awhile. It was done on a small scale, and the people involved still complained.
 
You still get put ahead of non-owners, as you said in your original post. That would seem to mean that you are given preference.

FrmrVacGuide,
Yes, but I only have that preference IF, and only IF I have enough points -- which I would NOT HAVE, if I wasn't able to nab one of those 6 peak weeks!

You don't seem to be understanding that this is a really huge deal for owners. There are 52 weeks in a year. At my resort (and many others) RCI is designating only 6 summer weeks as "peak". Owners of the remaining 46 weeks of the year will receive less points, so they with these new changes they will have NO WAY to make a week-for-week exchange back into their owned resort during those prime weeks.

How can you not see or comprehend how this negatively impacts owners, and is a HUGE DEAL? Until Nov. 12th, I could deposit my week into RCI, run an ongoing search and try to get one of the exchange possibilities my family was interested in. But if it didn't work out -- oh well, we can just go back to our home resort next summer. Not the end of the world. (Mind you, there were no guarantees on this -- but usually enough people spacebank those peak summer weeks, that most owners had the ability to pay the additional $189 RCI exchange fee trade back in during summer.)

But with the Nov. 12 changes, if I deposit my late August week and am not able to find an exchange my family is willing to accept -- I have now lost the ability to trade back into summer at my owned resort, on a week-for-week exchange. I'm sorry, but how can you NOT see that this is a purely financial issue. Who would want to pay 2 maintenance fees + the RCI annual membership fee + the $189 exchange fee + the new $99 combining weeks fee? That's more than DOUBLE the amount of money that we would have paid prior to the Nov. 12 RCI changes! Hello? What's fair about this?

What about the resort owners who have own only 1 timeshare week during those 42 non-peak weeks of the year? They have nothing to combine. Now they will NEVER have the opportunity to exchange back into their resort during peak summer weeks.

--- Rene
 
I have another fact question. The strategy thread talks about a cap of 60 points for combining points. Is that true? If so, this combining is good for blue weeks or left over points only.
 
FrmrVacGuide,
Yes, but I only have that preference IF, and only IF I have enough points -- which I would NOT HAVE, if I wasn't able to nab one of those 6 peak weeks!

You don't seem to be understanding that this is a really huge deal for owners. There are 52 weeks in a year. At my resort (and many others) RCI is designating only 6 summer weeks as "peak". Owners of the remaining 46 weeks of the year will receive less points, so they with these new changes they will have NO WAY to make a week-for-week exchange back into their owned resort during those prime weeks.

How can you not see or comprehend how this negatively impacts owners, and is a HUGE DEAL? Until Nov. 12th, I could deposit my week into RCI, run an ongoing search and try to get one of the exchange possibilities my family was interested in. But if it didn't work out -- oh well, we can just go back to our home resort next summer. Not the end of the world. (Mind you, there were no guarantees on this -- but usually enough people spacebank those peak summer weeks, that most owners had the ability to pay the additional $189 RCI exchange fee trade back in during summer.)

But with the Nov. 12 changes, if I deposit my late August week and am not able to find an exchange my family is willing to accept -- I have now lost the ability to trade back into summer at my owned resort, on a week-for-week exchange. I'm sorry, but how can you NOT see that this is a purely financial issue. Who would want to pay 2 maintenance fees + the RCI annual membership fee + the $189 exchange fee + the new $99 combining weeks fee? That's more than DOUBLE the amount of money that we would have paid prior to the Nov. 12 RCI changes! Hello? What's fair about this?

What about the resort owners who have own only 1 timeshare week during those 42 non-peak weeks of the year? They have nothing to combine. Now they will NEVER have the opportunity to exchange back into their resort during peak summer weeks.

--- Rene

The cost to trade into a unit does change over time, just as it did before. What we are seeing now is that the ongoing search wasn't always just finding new deposits from a place. Your search might have matched because the "cost" to get what you wanted came down to what you could afford based on your deposit.

Value and cost have always changed within the RCI system. The difference is that now you can see it. I actually think this is going to end up being disliked more by people who take an in-depth look at things more than the casual users. It is going to make you feel like you have to do more work to maximize your value. I understand that, because I'm in the same boat.

You can still run that ongoing search, so you don't know that it won't still work for you. How do you not comprehend that the only real thing that has changed system wide is that you can see what you couldn't see before? They've also added the ability to get "change" back. Of course, during this change, they've made their normal trading power adjustments that they make every year based on supply and demand. Again, that happened every year.

RCI is designating "peak" weeks based on what the historical numbers are showing them. Yes, I'm sure we all wished that the date range was longer, but sadly, that isn't the case. I still think the issue you really have is with your resort. Why would they sell weeks at a different cost without a guarantee for people that paid the extra money to do that internal reservation? I've always been a believer, even before I worked at RCI, that people that want to stay at their home resort should do that internally. It just doesn't seem practical to do it through an exchange company. Obviously, fixed weeks are a different story, but that is another topic.

I guess what I'm saying, is I don't understand why your resort is doing it the way they are. Maybe if I understood that, I would understand why you can't use them to get your home resort reservation.
 
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