Wyndham Points and RCI question

[JAbbott]

From the Wyndham site:

• The added benefit of RCI® membership, which puts the rest of the world within your reach

Does this mean that if I purchase a Wyndham resale that has already been converted to points it includes a RCI membership? At no additional cost?

Currently waiting for deeds to be processed for two different purchases at Wyndham Kona Hawaiian every other year. (Weeks). Another resale on the market now for the same resort that is weeks that I am looking at. That would give us 4 weeks every other year or the option to trade elsewhere with points.

 

[tschwa2]

You pay for the rci membership as part of the mandatory program fee if you own Wyndham points retail or resale.

 

[JAbbott]

You pay for the rci membership as part of the mandatory program fee if you own Wyndham points retail or resale.

Is that part of the maintenance fees or is it a separate fee?

 

[tschwa2]

Is that part of the maintenance fees or is it a separate fee?

It gets added as part of the MF bill.

 

[uscav8r]

Is that part of the maintenance fees or is it a separate fee?

To be clear, the RCI fee is wrapped up into the Program Fee, which is about $.54/1000 points (minimum of about $131 for resale-only accounts). On your bill, this will be added on top of the maintenance fee for the resort.

Once you are in Club Wyndham, you will get two RCI accounts. One is the Wyndham corporate RCI account that you must access via the Club Wyndham portal. This is where you can deposit Club Wyndham points for use in RCI.

The second account is the included RCI Weeks account, which you access via the RCI website. This is where you can deposit your existing RCI fixed or floating week (if you have any) in exchange for TPUs. You cannot see any Points deposits from the corporate portal here, nor can you see TPU deposits in the corporate portal.


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[Crafty71]

Does this mean that if I purchase a Wyndham resale that has already been converted to points it includes a RCI membership? At no additional cost?

Currently waiting for deeds to be processed for two different purchases at Wyndham Kona Hawaiian every other year. (Weeks). Another resale on the market now for the same resort that is weeks that I am looking at. That would give us 4 weeks every other year or the option to trade elsewhere with points.

Are you purchasing weeks or points resale contracts...? It seems you are asking about both, but you only mention purchasing weeks contracts...weeks contracts at Wyndham resorts was the "old" way and points is the "new" way, but just because you are buying at a Wyndham resort does not mean you are getting points...it may be "old" fixed weeks contracts in which case that is exactly what you are getting...

Cheers!

 

[Lisa P]

Does this mean that if I purchase a Wyndham resale that has already been converted to points it includes a RCI membership? At no additional cost?

Yes. Our two contracts are fixed weeks which were converted to points. We pay the mandatory Wyndham Program Fee that's added to our annual maintenance fees and it includes our annual RCI Weeks membership. This mandatory Program Fee (referenced by Chris above) covers the costs of managing the internal Wyndham points reservation system as well as our RCI Weeks membership.

Once you are in Club Wyndham, you will get two RCI accounts. One is the Wyndham corporate RCI account that you must access via the Club Wyndham portal... The second account is the included RCI Weeks account, which you access via the RCI website.

Right idea, only it's just one RCI account (membership) with a single RCI membership ID number, which may be accessed through both entry points. When we want to use Wyndham points for an RCI transaction, we must access RCI via the Wyndham portal. For other transactions (i.e., deposit/exchange of TPUs from other ownership), we must access RCI via the RCI Weeks page.

When we want to purchase a Last Call or Extra Vacation via RCI directly (not a Wyndham Rentals or outside RCI Rentals site), we can do it one of 3 ways:
Log in to the regular RCI Weeks page, search for a Last Call or Extra Vacation, select and pay.
Log in through the portal, search for a Last Call or Extra Vacation, select and pay.
Log in through the portal, click on a link to a Last Call or Extra Vacation Sale, which brings up the regular RCI Weeks login page, login again, search, select and pay.

 

[JAbbott]

Are you purchasing weeks or points resale contracts...? It seems you are asking about both, but you only mention purchasing weeks contracts...weeks contracts at Wyndham resorts was the "old" way and points is the "new" way, but just because you are buying at a Wyndham resort does not mean you are getting points...it may be "old" fixed weeks contracts in which case that is exactly what you are getting...

Cheers!

We have purchased two "weeks" contracts (EOYE) . We think that in retirement we would like to go for 3 - 4 weeks here every other year during the crap weather. I am seeing a week being offered up that has been converted to points (Every year). If I were to pick this up, and use RCI I could turn that into 4 weeks every other year, or exchange to somewhere else if we chose. So to be clear third purchase, if we decided would be a points contract.

 

[uscav8r]

Yes. Our two contracts are fixed weeks which were converted to points. We pay the mandatory Wyndham Program Fee that's added to our annual maintenance fees and it includes our annual RCI Weeks membership. This mandatory Program Fee (referenced by Chris above) covers the costs of managing the internal Wyndham points reservation system as well as our RCI Weeks membership.
Right idea, only it's just one RCI account (membership) with a single RCI membership ID number, which may be accessed through both entry points. When we want to use Wyndham points for an RCI transaction, we must access RCI via the Wyndham portal. For other transactions (i.e., deposit/exchange of TPUs from other ownership), we must access RCI via the RCI Weeks page.
...

A few years back I wanted to gain access to the direct RCI portal but didn’t know my membership number. I called Wyndham RCI to get it and they gave me two different RCI numbers. They said one was the number associated with the Club Wyndham RCI site and the other would get me to the direct RCI site. Of course, they couldn’t tell me which was which.

I figured it out because only one of the numbers fit the RCI site format.


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[Free2Roam]

...Right idea, only it's just one RCI account (membership) with a single RCI membership ID number, which may be accessed through both entry points.

A few years back I wanted to gain access to the direct RCI portal but didn’t know my membership number. I called Wyndham RCI to get it and they gave me two different RCI numbers. They said one was the number associated with the Club Wyndham RCI site and the other would get me to the direct RCI site. Of course, they couldn’t tell me which was which.

I figured it out because only one of the numbers fit the RCI site format.


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My situation matches uscav8r... I have a separate RCI Weeks acct number that I use when logging on thru RCI's website. This acct existed before Wyndham/RCI offered portal access. My portal acct number is the same as my Wyndham member number.

I often wondered if new members still get that separate RCI account or if they're limited to portal access only.

 

[JAbbott]

Adding to this conversation for others who may ask similar questions. Our first Wyndham weeks account arrived this week. I was able to talk to a rep with questions related to this topic.
With a Wyndham weeks account you do not get an "included in the maintenance fees" RCI account. You can pay for a weeks account if you want one. If you own a Wyndham Points account there is a RCI account that is included in the maintenance fees (my understanding)
Further, as a weeks owner there is not a portal or web site to use for booking, etc. Need to do it all by phone (maybe email too?).

James

 

[Richelle]

To be clear, the RCI fee is wrapped up into the Program Fee, which is about $.54/1000 points (minimum of about $131 for resale-only accounts). On your bill, this will be added on top of the maintenance fee for the resort.

Once you are in Club Wyndham, you will get two RCI accounts. One is the Wyndham corporate RCI account that you must access via the Club Wyndham portal. This is where you can deposit Club Wyndham points for use in RCI.

The second account is the included RCI Weeks account, which you access via the RCI website. This is where you can deposit your existing RCI fixed or floating week (if you have any) in exchange for TPUs. You cannot see any Points deposits from the corporate portal here, nor can you see TPU deposits in the corporate portal.


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56 cents per 1,000 without Plus Parnters or $131 minimum. 58 cents per 1,000 with plus partners or $151 minimum.

That second account you are referring to is only if you own a fixed or floating week. The first one is as you mention is for the depositing of points. If you are strictly resale with no plus partners, you can onlybook entire weeks. If you have plus partners, you can book nightly stays at participating resorts. You can do both from the same account. Each owner only has one RCI account unless they own a fixed or float week, and pay a subscription fee for that fixedor float week. The one Wyndham provides is part of the MF. The weeks one is not.

 

[paxsarah]

As I understand it, Wyndham owners who own both points and fixed weeks can use their Wyndham-provided RCI account with a direct login to RCI and deposit their weeks there without paying for a second account. I can do the direct login but I don’t have any weeks to deposit so can only book Extra Vacations and Last Call from that side.

 

[Free2Roam]

56 cents per 1,000 without Plus Parnters or $131 minimum. 58 cents per 1,000 with plus partners or $151 minimum.

That second account you are referring to is only if you own a fixed or floating week. The first one is as you mention is for the depositing of points. If you are strictly resale with no plus partners, you can onlybook entire weeks. If you have plus partners, you can book nightly stays at participating resorts. You can do both from the same account. Each owner only has one RCI account unless they own a fixed or float week, and pay a subscription fee for that fixedor float week. The one Wyndham provides is part of the MF. The weeks one is not.

This might be the case now, but those of us who were around before RCI was accessible from Wyndham's website/portal, had RCI accounts accessed by direct login to RCI's website.

I have 2 RCI accounts for my one Club Wyndham account:
- one is accessed thru my Club Wyndham account. The RCI acct number is the same as my Wyndham member number
- the other is accessed thru RCI.com using a separate login and has a normal RCI account number (nnnn-nnnn). I don't pay anything directly to RCI for this account

Full disclosure... I also have an RCI Points account (not related to my Wyndham ownership) that I DO pay for...and I have a separate RCI Weeks account that comes 'free/included' with the RCI Points accounts.

So I actually have 4 different RCI accounts.

 

[Richelle]

This might be the case now, but those of us who were around before RCI was accessible from Wyndham's website/portal, had RCI accounts accessed by direct login to RCI's website.

I have 2 RCI accounts for my one Club Wyndham account:
- one is accessed thru my Club Wyndham account. The RCI acct number is the same as my Wyndham member number
- the other is accessed thru RCI.com using a separate login and has a normal RCI account number (nnnn-nnnn). I don't pay anything directly to RCI for this account

Full disclosure... I also have an RCI Points account (not related to my Wyndham ownership) that I DO pay for...and I have a separate RCI Weeks account that comes 'free/included' with the RCI Points accounts.

So I actually have 4 different RCI accounts.

Yikes. That’s a lot to keep track of. Lol. We also have two separate RCI accounts because my mom bought her VV at parkway timeshare about 10 years before we bought with Wyndham. A newbie could theoretically have two if they don’t know that they could use their RCI provided account to deposit their fixed or float week, but it’s not something that is issued by Wyndham. My point was that they only get one account, not two, like the other poster said.


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[breezez]

Yikes. That’s a lot to keep track of. Lol. We also have two separate RCI accounts because my mom bought her VV at parkway timeshare about 10 years before we bought with Wyndham. A newbie could theoretically have two if they don’t know that they could use their RCI provided account to deposit their fixed or float week, but it’s not something that is issued by Wyndham. My point was that they only get one account, not two, like the other poster said.


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I own Wyndham bought in 2015 resell. I have an RCI account via portal and a separate weeks account that you log into RCI directly. These both came from Wyndham.

I then have a separate RCI Points account acquired by owning Grandview with VV. I know people say points accounts come with a free weeks account, but not sure how you access it.

 

[Free2Roam]

I know people say points accounts come with a free weeks account, but not sure how you access it.

You just need to call RCI and have them set it up for you. It'll be a separate account and login and should have the same expiration date as your RCI Points account. If your Points account is platinum, those benefits will extend to the attached Weeks account.

The main reason I even bothered to have it setup was because there always seemed to be issues with the account expiration date on my Wyndham/RCI (non-portal) account. I couldn't make reservations or even search beyond 1 year... sometimes less. RCI told me it didn't matter because it would be extended automatically. But I always had to call and have it extended in order to search further out.

I no longer use my Wyndham/RCI (non-portal) account. But I have given family and close friends access to book Extra Vacations or Last Calls. Since I have no deposits or reservations in that account, they can't mess with my stuff!

 

[uscav8r]

As I understand it, Wyndham owners who own both points and fixed weeks can use their Wyndham-provided RCI account with a direct login to RCI and deposit their weeks there without paying for a second account. I can do the direct login but I don’t have any weeks to deposit so can only book Extra Vacations and Last Call from that side.

To clarify, you seem to refer to points in the Club Wyndham context. You can’t use the Wyndham-provided RCI accounts for any RCI Points ownerships; only RCI Weeks can be deposited and used.



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[uscav8r]

Right idea, only it's just one RCI account (membership) with a single RCI membership ID number, which may be accessed through both entry points. When we want to use Wyndham points for an RCI transaction, we must access RCI via the Wyndham portal. For other transactions (i.e., deposit/exchange of TPUs from other ownership), we must access RCI via the RCI Weeks page.

Whatever the case may be, mechanically-speaking there are two references numbers (actually three, but that only makes it more confusing) and you cannot see your deposits across the different portals/accounts.

Furthermore, you cannot see inventory across the two portals. The Wyndham-RCI portal grants an owner (who bought retail) access to both RCI Weeks and RCI Points inventory (only Weeks if you only have resale).

Now that I think about it, now it makes sense why I was given three different RCI accounts/reference numbers/whatever. One was for the direct RCI Weeks logon. One is for the Weeks inventory accessed with Club Wyndham points. And one is for the Points inventory I can access with Club Wyndham points (due to retail purchase). The latter two are transparent as they are accessed through the same portal.


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[paxsarah]

To clarify, you seem to refer to points in the Club Wyndham context. You can’t use the Wyndham-provided RCI accounts for any RCI Points ownerships; only RCI Weeks can be deposited and used.

That is what I meant, thanks. Usually when I'm talking about RCI Points I capitalize the P. But I only own Wyndham points, no fixed weeks or RCI Points, so that post was based only what I've gleaned in my years of reading this forum.

 

[bendadin]

I had searches going on my Wyndham portal RCI account when my developer account was finally began reading correctly. They canceled all of my searches and re-issued them. I've made one match at Disney (SSR) since. But it still picks up nothing compared to my points account. However, I did learn that I am blocked from using my points account for Vegas since that is where I own.