WSJ Villa on Red Week

[OCsun]

Since several tuggers are looking for WSJ villas, I wanted to give you a heads up on a new listing on Red Week. There is a three bedroom with pool, week 16, for sale at $15K less than the developer is asking. NO . . . THIS IS NOT MY UNIT and I do not even know the seller. If you are interested, ask some questions but this is a very popular week at the WSJ.

Note: some of the ad's details are incorrect, such as the maintenance fee is almost $1,700 a year if you include the mandatory SVN membership fee. The ad lists $1,200. Also, the bedrooms in the older three bedrooms have a king size bed in each bedroom, not the queen and full beds the ad lists.

Pam

 

[DavidnRobin]

Since several tuggers are looking for WSJ villas, I wanted to give you a heads up on a new listing on Red Week. There is a three bedroom with pool, week 16, for sale at $15K less than the developer is asking. NO . . . THIS IS NOT MY UNIT and I do not even know the seller. If you are interested, ask some questions but this is a very popular week at the WSJ.

Note: some of the ad's details are incorrect, such as the maintenance fee is almost $1,700 a year if you include the mandatory SVN membership fee. The ad lists $1,200. Also, the bedrooms in the older three bedrooms have a king size bed in each bedroom, not the queen and full beds the ad lists.

Pam

I saw this - this is a reasonable price (relatively for WSJ). A 3Bd (wk50) for ~34K was picked up VERY quickly a few weeks ago. What I think is funny is that there is another new listing for a 1bd (week 14) for 36K (good luck with that....)

What happened to all the WSJ units listed on TUG? There were a bunch a few weeks ago - mainly from a ReMax broker (mostly overpriced)

 

[Blue Skies]

I don't know if this has been previously asked, but is there a good detailed map of WSJ that includes villa numbers?

 

[johnmfaeth]

The Westin St. John site contains a resort map which has the building numbers listed (the first 2 digits of the 4 digit unit #).

 

[Blue Skies]

Found it!

Here is the link:

http://www.westinresortstjohn.com/location.htm

Thanks for the info.

 

[DavidnRobin]

Here is the link:

http://www.westinresortstjohn.com/location.htm

Thanks for the info.

As that map does not include unit #s - I can tell you that for the 4 buildings on the hill (31xx-34xx) that unit #10 (3210 and 3410) are the 1st floor units closest to the pool betwen the buildings. Also, there are 2 floors for the unit entrances with 3 levels total levels. I would assume that unit xx01 is on the opposite side on the lower level. There ia an eBay ad that states that the unit 3321 is on the top floor at the end of the building.

Also, there are two 2bd THs on either end of the buildings (one with a 1st floor entrance and one with a 2nd floor entrance). The TH units have windows on the sides (above the staircase) that allow for better light. The studios and the 1 bd units are between the TH units with (I believe) the studios are on the 1st entrance level and the 1Bd units are on the 2nd entrance level (this would make sense since the 1Bd have a loft with a slanted roof and a window on the loft level). The only light that comes into the studio units on the lower level is from the balcony door. They seemed somewhat dark when I had a glimse at one.

The units are all angled and slightly offset from one another (better balcony privacy). The staircase to the upper level is in the center of the building - so if you are on an end unit - you need to walk to the center staircase, then to the unit on the end from the pool/BBQ area. I say this because our unit (3410) is only about 15-20 steps from the pool and BBQ area - while the TH unit above and to the inside of ours has to walk to the center then back towards the side. Not a big deal, but I like that we can get in/out quickly (were lazy on vacations). Although the upper unit does have a better view.

Also one of the buildings has be renovated - but not sure which one (not B34)

 

[LauraS93]

Not a big deal, but I like that we can get in/out quickly (were lazy on vacations). Although the upper unit does have a better view.

I'm sure yours still has a beautiful view!

 

[Blue Skies]

OK, let me get this straight....

The 3-bedroom week 16 villa for sale on redweek is one of the "Hillside" villas which have different seasons and staroptions than the new "Bay View" villas. Correct?

Week 16 in the "Hillside" villas is not prime or platinum season, it is gold, according to the chart I saw. Platinum only goes through week 15.

So why is week 16 an elite platinum plus week in the new "Bay View" section and only a gold week in the older "Hillside" section. This makes absolutely no sense.

If week 16 is such high demand, shouldn't it be considered part of the platinum season for the "older" section of villas also?

 

[Loriannf]

Actually, WSJ has different seasons

Week 16 is Platinum in the Hillside units; the "prime season" is Platinum plus, and the summer weeks are "Gold". We'd all like to know why the new units have different seasons, as my weeks (17 and 18 in Hillside) would be Platinum Plus in the new units. No clear answer from Starwood as yet.

The Hillside units have private pools, the Bayside do not. There's also a Bayside unit for rent on one website and its owner claims it has a private pool - what a surprise for renters. We've considered this week 16, but would have to sell our week 18 to get it, and we've not yet stayed in our week 18 yet.

Lori

 

[Blue Skies]

Is the staroptions chart on post #9 of this thread no longer valid?

http://69.16.236.4/~tugbbsc/forums/showthread.php?t=36269

It appears that week 16 is not prime season, or am I reading this wrong?

 

[DavidnRobin]

Is the staroptions chart on post #9 of this thread no longer valid?

http://69.16.236.4/~tugbbsc/forums/showthread.php?t=36269

It appears that week 16 is not prime season, or am I reading this wrong?

The new SVO/SVN SO chart is at:
http://www.tug2.net/advice/SVNSOChart0107.pdf

Yes - the BV has different seasons than VG (Hillside) - no explanantion - other than it is what it is. We own mid-June.

Anytime up until mid-July and after mid-October is pretty much clear of hurricane potential.

Pretty stange that someone is renting a BV weeks and claiming it has a pool. They do not have pools - except the resort pool - and the BV units will not be open until Nov'07 - and knowing 'island time' that is likely to be pushed back (again)

 

[Blue Skies]

Thanks for the information and the new Staroptions Chart.

I just think it's weird that in the VG villas week 16 is in the lower Staroptions category:

Weeks 1-15, 51-52 = 148,100 Staroptions
Weeks 16-20, 43-50 = 95,700 Staroptions

But in the new BV week 16 is considered so valuable, it is an ultra premium prime week along with weeks 7,51,52.

Westin St. John- Bay Vista (Ultra Premium Prime Wks)
Three Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $127,995.00
Gold Plus- 47 $59,995.00

Two Bedroom Loft
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $127,995.00
Gold Plus- 47 $59,995.00

Two Bedroom
Platinum Plus- 7,16,51,52 $94,995.00
Gold Plus- 47 $44,995.00

Why is week 16 treated so differently at the same resort? I find the discrepancy confusing.

 

[jerseygirl]

Is it possible it's not a Fixed Week 16, but one that floats with Easter? That seems to me the only reason why someone (with young kids or grandkids, for example) would pay a premium for that week.

Did Easter fall during week 16 last year? Easter is very rarely that late, but I think it was extra late last year, wasn't it?

 

[DavidnRobin]

The WSJ VG villas are fixed units/weeks. The BV villas being built will have both fixed and float weeks - with only so many allowed to be fixed weeks (at a premium). The difference between the seasons was a decision by SVO. There have been threads on this previously.
The ultra premium week 16 has do to with 'Patriot' day/week (I had never heard of it before)

 

[jerseygirl]

The ultra premium week 16 has do to with 'Patriot' day/week (I had never heard of it before)

Must be selling like hotcakes!