Wow KBC 1 bdrm l/o for under $10k!!! need advice

[pacman]

need some advice or input. looking at purchasing our first Marriott. Currently own 2 Hilton properties. I'm looking at an every year, ocean-view, 1 bdrm lock off at the Kauai Beach Club for under $10k. This seems like a very good deal. The lock off seems like it would provide good flexibility for use. Questions:

1. How good a trader would this be with II? especially into MOC?
2. Does anyone know where I can find the actual floorplan of these 1 bdrm lock off units?
3. Any comments on the KBC in general. I have read almost all the reviews and they seem very positive.
4. Had sort a negative holiday in Poipu a fews years back in February, as it was cloudy most of time with quite a few showers. Can someone calm my fears about the weather in February in Kauai.
5. Is it pretty well guaranteed that I could use one side of the lockoff for one week, and the other side for week 2, if desired.
6. As an owner at KBC, how far, generally speaking, do you have to book your week?

Any other advice or comments greatly appreciated!

Pacman

 

[VacationPro]

need some advice or input. looking at purchasing our first Marriott. Currently own 2 Hilton properties. I'm looking at an every year, ocean-view, 1 bdrm lock off at the Kauai Beach Club for under $10k. This seems like a very good deal. The lock off seems like it would provide good flexibility for use. Questions:

1. How good a trader would this be with II? especially into MOC?
2. Does anyone know where I can find the actual floorplan of these 1 bdrm lock off units?
3. Any comments on the KBC in general. I have read almost all the reviews and they seem very positive.
4. Had sort a negative holiday in Poipu a fews years back in February, as it was cloudy most of time with quite a few showers. Can someone calm my fears about the weather in February in Kauai.
5. Is it pretty well guaranteed that I could use one side of the lockoff for one week, and the other side for week 2, if desired.
6. As an owner at KBC, how far, generally speaking, do you have to book your week?

Any other advice or comments greatly appreciated!

Pacman

I'm sure other more knowledgeable owners will be along shortly to answer your questions in more depth, but if you have a 1 BR, there is no "lock-off" option, so you will only be able to get a single week in trade (although II very likely will give you and AC if you deposit your week), which could be used for an additional week of vacation.

 

[pacman]

I'm sure other more knowledgeable owners will be along shortly to answer your questions in more depth, but if you have a 1 BR, there is no "lock-off" option, so you will only be able to get a single week in trade (although II very likely will give you and AC if you deposit your week), which could be used for an additional week of vacation.

I've gone through this already in a previous post. KBC does have 1 bdrm lock off units.

 

[ArBravesFan]

I used to own at KBC. The units are technically labeled "Lockoff" but they are unlike the typical MVCI lockoffs. Think: two hotels rooms with the adjoining door opened between them. That is in effect what they are.

Also, consider the extremely high Maintenance Fees: about $1500 and ever increqasing as well as the volatility of Special Assessments and the continued increase in airline fares.

In my opinion, the cost of ownership in Hawaii is too high to justify.

 

[gmarine]

KBC units have been going for under 10K very often on EBAY. I assume the m-fees in the $1600 range are a huge reason why. With fees that high the unit
isnt cost effective to trade and assuming fees are going to increase every year, $2000 isnt far off.

 

[pacman]

ok, I'm getting the message. Buy somewhere where the maint fees are much less and trade into Hawaii. This is exactly what I am currently doing with my Hilton t/s, but am having difficulty getting into Hawaii at our 9 month booking window.

What has been the experience with Marriott? If I buy at Surfwatch, or Canyon Villas, and plan well ahead, can I expect to consistently trade into MOC, and KBC?

Thanks

pacman

 

[gmarine]

If you want to consistently go to Hawaii then the KBC may be the way to go. Consistently trading to high end Hawaii units isnt easy. I just wouldnt buy a unit with such high maintenance fees to use for trading.

 

[alwysonvac]

If you haven't, definitely read the FAQ thread.

I'm not a Marriott owner but it seems like it's more difficult to reserve than HGVC if you need to travel during peak travel periods. NOTE: multi-week owners have reservation preference over single week owners

See these old threads

Marriott 13 month advance booking?

Marriott Newport Coast -- getting your week

What about Marriott drives you crazy!?

Good Luck

 

[Bee]

We own a 2 br. 2 ba. week at KBC and have always been able to reserve the week we wanted. Since we always go in high season, I do reserve exactly a year ahead. If you plan ahead you will not have a problem spliting your unit for a 2 week stay.

Bee