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Who is Relief Solutions International?

FrankL

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Has a anyone heard of Relief Solutions International (www.rsinow.com). They claim to eliminate your maintenance fees.

I am not sure if they are legit and/or what their track record is.
 
I've never heard of them.

That said, I would place a 99% bet on the probability that if you move forward with them, at some point in the process, they will want you to pay them money. They may call it a title search, a tax, or whatever, and they will promise that you will be repaid from the sales proceeds.

When this happens, run. As soon as you pay them, the "buyer" will disappear and you will never see your money again.

Never* pay an upfront fee. Ever.


* Exception for up to $50 to place an ad.
 
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If you are looking to sell, and since you are a member here, you can post free ads in the TUG Marketplace. Sure beats paying someone an upfront fee. As to 'eliminating maintenance fees', the only way to do that is to terminate your ownership. There is no magic wand to make them go away.

Looking at your 'portfolio', you might be able to offer the deed back to the HOA for the one in RI (ask in writing). The one in Mexico is worthless. There is a good chance you can simply default with little to no consequence.

Jim
 
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Historically, at least in my own observations over the years and personal opinion, each and every timeshare related entity with the word "Solutions" in its' name has instead always turned out to be a useless, upfront fee entity which is instead a problem, not a solution. The main problem of course is that they are taking your money for doing absolutely nothing of any particular use or value --- which is clearly a "solution" only from the perspective of their bank account. 'Nuff said.
 
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The other possibility is that they are what we like to call a "Viking Ship" operation where they will take possession of your TS and then put it in a dummy corporation where they will default on all the maintenance fees and force an ugly, unwanted foreclosure. There have been numerous discussions here on TUG about the legality, ethics, and sensibility of such operations. We generally recommend staying away from such operations.
 
You pay them a fairly large sum of money. They will generally try to sell/give it away. If they can you are no longer obligated to pay your MF's. If they can't they may try to abandon it. In this case you may be out the fee you paid them and still legally obligated to continue to pay the fees.

Before even considering one of these types of organizations you need to make an effort to give your timeshare away possibly paying incentives like prepaid MF's and all transfer/recording fees up to the amount you might have considered paying one of these organizations.
 
Apparently my parents just signed a deal with a guy from Relief Solutions International to get rid of their timeshare points -- all of which seem to be Festiva points (used to be Peppertree).

Their maintenance fees are ~$2000 per year and they haven't been able to trade anything useful for several years. Part of the issue is that my mother is now in a wheelchair, which severely limits the number of timeshare units they can use.

If I understood them correctly, they will have to pay $3,995 to the company plus a ~$1,000 transfer fee to the developer (?) plus their 2016 maintenance fees (so ~$2,000). So that's a total of about $7,000.

Money well spent to get their 3 weeks off their hands, or bad idea? I think they have until Wednesday to rescind.

I halfheartedly tried to convince them that we could give the weeks away here on TUG, but that would presumably cost the 2016 maintenance fees plus the transfer fees, and I haven't seen a lot of good things about Festiva here on the TUG boards. :-/
 
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Apparently my parents just signed a deal with a guy from Relief Solutions International to get rid of their timeshare points -- all of which seem to be Festiva points (used to be Peppertree).

Their maintenance fees are ~$2000 per year and they haven't been able to trade anything useful for several years. Part of the issue is that my mother is now in a wheelchair, which severely limits the number of timeshare units they can use.

If I understood them correctly, they will have to pay $3,995 to the company plus a ~$1,000 transfer fee to the developer (?) plus their 2016 maintenance fees (so ~$2,000). So that's a total of about $7,000.

Money well spent to get their 3 weeks off their hands, or bad idea? I think they have until Wednesday to rescind.

I halfheartedly tried to convince them that we could give the weeks away here on TUG, but that would presumably cost the 2016 maintenance fees plus the transfer fees, and I haven't seen a lot of good things about Festiva here on the TUG boards. :-/

This saddens me if they have given them any money at all if not I would try everything to get out of this immediately!!

There are other ways to get out of a timeshare this is NOT one I would recommend usually on upfront fee companies after paying all the fees they still end up with their timeshare and just fall victim to yet another scam.

Luckily I am not in the situation of owning a timeshare that I did not want BUT if I were then this is what I would do. Typically when I give advice I try to put myself in the shoes of the person.

Most of these give it back companies I have seen are scam artist I wouldn't trust em.

Scenario two is a WORSE CASE SCENARIO

Scenario One
See if I were within the window still to exercise buyers remorse for the state I purchased the timeshare in. If this did not apply I would move to Scenario two.

Scenario Two
If I owned a timeshare where I owed $20,000 or something bonkers like that and to my knowledge a lot of timeshare companies will not allow resale unless you have a warranty deed owing $0 so reselling this in most cases would NOT be an option if this applies. I would default on the timeshare and have it foreclosed ruining my credit and prior to doing so try to position myself where I wouldn't need a loan for a very long time and wait for the FCRAs statue of limitations for reporting the bad mark to fall off.

Scenario Three
If I owned the warranty deed owing a $0 balance on the timeshare and there was some resale value DVC timeshare etc then sell it for money try to recoup some of the money back out of it.

Scenario Four
If the timeshare was paid off and I had the warranty deed and there was no resale value I would see if the resort would take it back in some instances they do if it is paid off.

Scenario Five
If the timeshare was paid off and the resort would not allow deedbacks. Also the timeshare had no resale value then I would try to give it away for free. If really desperate I would try to offer an extra incentive like paying next years maintenance fees allow free usage for one year and pay closing cost etc.

Be very skeptical of give it back companies I personally wouldn't trust any of them. If you bought a timeshare from a resort I would say once burnt lesson learnt and try to not fall victim to other scams.
 
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I think my parents are in Scenario 5, but nobody they have approached will take it for free because nobody wants to pay the maintenance fees. Charities won't take them, I am guessing that the developer won't take them, etc.

They have no loan balance on the timeshares, which were purchased probably in the 1990s and converted to points and from Peppertree to Festiva more recently.

If I had a clearer sense of whether they could be given away on TUG I would try that -- it must be cheaper even if the next year's maintenance fees and the developer transfer fees still have to be paid.
 
I think my parents are in Scenario 5, but nobody they have approached will take it for free because nobody wants to pay the maintenance fees. Charities won't take them, I am guessing that the developer won't take them, etc.

They have no loan balance on the timeshares, which were purchased probably in the 1990s and converted to points and from Peppertree to Festiva more recently.

If I had a clearer sense of whether they could be given away on TUG I would try that -- it must be cheaper even if the next year's maintenance fees and the developer transfer fees still have to be paid.

MOST PEOPLE and I mean 99% of timeshare owners would fall under this category if their timeshare was paid off. It is rare timeshares have any resale value at all which is disheartening giving the fact how much money people paid for their purchase.

I am relatively new to this whole hobby and I do look at it as a hobby, but from what I have seen you are right scenario five is more times often than not the scenario I am recommending.

Have you tried the giveback option at the resort level? Somtimes the resort will charge you to take it back oh the irony but do it if the fees aren't ridiculous its much safer than the current route taken.
 
If I had a clearer sense of whether they could be given away on TUG I would try that .

vs even trying....your parents are willing to fork out nearly 7 thousand dollars to an upfront fee company?

that seems like a very poor decision.

even if you offered to give them away on TUG, with a $3500 dollar free gift card attached (or contribute 3500 to closing costs + maint fees)...you would STILL be ahead 3500 dollars. I am continually fascinated by how folks are so willing to throw away so much money for so little effort.
 
and the BBB warns against this scammer just now...shame they have been doing things like this for 6 years!

 
and hey look, 8 years later they have finally got the attention of an Attorney Generals office!



The Attorney General’s Office has received complaints from 114 consumers who collectively paid the defendants over $800,000 but did not receive the results that the defendants guaranteed in writing. Attorney General Bailey is seeking injunctive relief, full restitution for all affected, and civil penalties for each violation.

only 114 registered complaints in 8 years :(
 
I would guess the number of unhappy customers is 10X the number of complaints. Most people do not bother to complain because they are either too lazy or think it's not worth their time because it won't work.
 
more charges for this fine group of individuals!

 
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