What time does the Points inventory go online for Marriott?

[Dean]

It was my understanding it was 9 am but clearly the last 2 weeks on Tuesday there has been availability of the 13 month inventory earlier than 9.

 

[GregT]

Try at midnight eastern time. I've seen inventory at that time.

Best,

Greg

 

[Dean]

Thanks Greg.

 

[dima]

Try at midnight eastern time. I've seen inventory at that time.

Best,

Greg

Hi,
Just to clarify, is it possible to see and book inventory 13 months out with DC points?
I was sure that reservations 13 month out are required phone call and 12 month out online...

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[SueDonJ]

I've also seen inventory after midnight on the release day, prior to the official 9AM time. It's a good idea to check.

Be sure, too, that you're working with the correct Release Date by using the tools on the owners.marriottvacationclub.com website. Sign in, click on "Education & Owner Resources" --> "Helpful Tools" --> "When Can I Reserve?" --> then select EITHER "Using My Week" if you're booking your Week OR "Using Vacation Club Points" if you're booking Points. I know that sounds simple enough but there are still Owners of Enrolled Weeks who think they should be using the Weeks release date tool even when they've converted the Weeks to Points.

 

[SueDonJ]

Hi,
Just to clarify, is it possible to see and book inventory 13 months out with DC points?
I was sure that reservations 13 month out are required phone call and 12 month out online...

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Yes, 13-mos Destination Club Points inventory is search-able and book-able online. That's different from Weeks inventory, which still requires a call to Owner Services if you're trying to book consecutive/concurrent Weeks during the 13-mos Reservation Window.

 

[Dean]

Hi,
Just to clarify, is it possible to see and book inventory 13 months out with DC points?
I was sure that reservations 13 month out are required phone call and 12 month out online...

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As noted yes, it's bookable online 13 months out did just that just recently. I don't think you can do a wait list until 12 months and by phone call only.

 

[icydog]

13 months out for Presidential and Chairman's Club for 1+ nights. All other levels 13 months for 7+ nights.

 

[dima]

Thanks for the input.
One more question.
I am planning a big trip and my portfolio includes AP Points, DC points from enrolled weeks and pure weeks.
The idea is to book the string of consecutive weeks for my family where some weeks will be concurrent.
So, will my approach work?
Here is the example:

At first, I want to book week49 using AP points, week 50 using DC points (so, I guess I can do it online as Chairman owner), but then I want to continue with my unenrolled weeks for weeks 51 and 52 reserving 4 weeks in total where two of them are consecutive and two are concurrent. And after that, I want to book week 1 at Different resort. So, do I understand this right, that in order to reserve this string 13 month out I need to call customer service?
Online reservation will not work for this plan?

Again, thank you for all advices!

 

[SueDonJ]

Thanks for the input.
One more question.
I am planning a big trip and my portfolio includes AP Points, DC points from enrolled weeks and pure weeks.
The idea is to book the string of consecutive weeks for my family where some weeks will be concurrent.
So, will my approach work?
Here is the example:

At first, I want to book week49 using AP points, week 50 using DC points (so, I guess I can do it online as Chairman owner), but then I want to continue with my unenrolled weeks for weeks 51 and 52 reserving 4 weeks in total where two of them are consecutive and two are concurrent. And after that, I want to book week 1 at Different resort. So, do I understand this right, that in order to reserve this string 13 month out I need to call customer service?
Online reservation will not work for this plan?

Again, thank you for all advices!

First, Weeks and Points are subject to their own Reservation Windows and rules. I think the rules for the AP system are the same as for the DC but if not someone who is more familiar with AP Points will have to correct me. The Points systems do not have a consecutive-interval advantage the same as the Weeks system does, so each Points reservation will be subject to its own Reservation System and Release Date, and the Weeks system is completely separate from either Points system so your Weeks reservations will be separate from the Points ones.

So, assuming you have status in the AP and DC systems that gives you access to those 13-mos Reservation Windows, and assuming availability at the time you call/use the online system:

- Week 49 using your AP Points can be booked using the 13-mos Reservation Window for that check-in day. (*I don't know if AP system has online booking; if so, then I'd try that before calling.)

- Week 50 using your DC Points can be booked using the 13-mos Reservation Window for that check-in day. Again, I prefer online to calling in for DC usage.

- Weeks 51 and 52 can then be booked using the 13-mos Reservation Window for the first available check-in day of the first Week 51. The online Weeks system doesn't do instantaneous booking at the 13-mos window so you have to call in, and as long as all 4 desired Weeks intervals are available then you will be able to book all 4. If there is no availability at all for Week 51, you will not be able to book any Week 52 intervals during that call, but you will be able to call the following week when the 13-mos Reservation Window opens for Week 52. If the concurrent Week 52 intervals are then available you'll be able to book both, and can then intermittently search availability for Week 51 either by calling in or online after the 12-mos Reservation Window opens.

- What are you using to book Week 1, Points or Weeks? If Points then again Week 1 will have its own Reservation Window and you'll have to wait for its 13-mos Reservation Window to open before booking online. If Weeks, then it will be considered as a consecutive interval to your Weeks 51/52 and can be booked in the same phone call with Weeks 51 and 52, again as long as there is availability for the Week 52 intervals that fall before it.

All that to say, you are not going to be able to book everything that you want in one phone call 13-mos ahead of Week 49. What you want is do-able but it's going to take some coordination and depending on where you plan on going, you may be up against heavy demand for the holiday season. Be absolutely sure of the release dates for each segment of your desired stay (see Post #5 above,) and good luck!

 

[icydog]

I hate to keep asking these types of questions but, what is the AP point system? Award Points?

 

[SueDonJ]

I hate to keep asking these types of questions but, what is the AP point system? Award Points?

I'm assuming the Asia-Pacific Points system.

 

[JIMinNC]

To add to what Susan said about reservation windows, each category has a different day of the week that the window opens. Weeks 13-month reservation windows generally open each Monday, DC Points 13-months reservation windows generally open each Tuesday, Weeks 12-month windows open each Thursday, and DC Points 12-month windows open on Friday. I think those are the right days. Someone can correct if I'm mistaken.

 

[Dean]

Thanks for the input.
One more question.
I am planning a big trip and my portfolio includes AP Points, DC points from enrolled weeks and pure weeks.
The idea is to book the string of consecutive weeks for my family where some weeks will be concurrent.
So, will my approach work?
Here is the example:

At first, I want to book week49 using AP points, week 50 using DC points (so, I guess I can do it online as Chairman owner), but then I want to continue with my unenrolled weeks for weeks 51 and 52 reserving 4 weeks in total where two of them are consecutive and two are concurrent. And after that, I want to book week 1 at Different resort. So, do I understand this right, that in order to reserve this string 13 month out I need to call customer service?
Online reservation will not work for this plan?

Again, thank you for all advices!

As noted, points and weeks run differently. The enrolled vs non enrolled doesn't matter if you're booking the week and not using points. It sounds like you think this may be a difficult reservation. Am I reading correctly you want 6 villas with a week 49, week 50, and 2 each of 51 & 52? Do you have other resorts in other places you could reserve for say week 47 & 48 for example to give you a lead time to reserve? Could you book weeks 49-52 at 13 months out with weeks you own then if you can get week 49 & 50 on points, try to reschedule the weeks reservation to 51 & 52? If you can, you'll be ahead of the plan you have now simply because you'll have more chances and more options.

So assuming 6 villas over 4 weeks with 4 as weeks and 2 on points, and thinking other resorts as a lead in aren't workable, but also assuming all 4 weeks are in the same season; I'd do the following. Reserve weeks 49-52 on weeks by phone 13 months out and week 49-50 at 13 months out per the release calendar at 13 months out from week 49. The reservations days will be different even though both will be "13 months out". Hopefully the 2 points pools will flow a 1 (I don't know) and you can reserve 2 weeks at one time. If the weeks are different season as I suspect they will be, just don't miss your reservation windows.

 

[Dean]

To add to what Susan said about reservation windows, each category has a different day of the week that the window opens. Weeks 13-month reservation windows generally open each Monday, DC Points 13-months reservation windows generally open each Tuesday, Weeks 12-month windows open each Thursday, and DC Points 12-month windows open on Friday. I think those are the right days. Someone can correct if I'm mistaken.

I don't believe that's right. My understanding is points can be reserved 13 months out on Tuesday & 12 months out Friday for a week at a time. For weeks it's based on 12 or 13 months out from the FIRST day of the week that's reservable for the first resort in the chain. That's one of the reasons I bought Willow Ridge because it's both lockoff and has a Thursday checkin.

 

[dima]

To add to what Susan said about reservation windows, each category has a different day of the week that the window opens. Weeks 13-month reservation windows generally open each Monday, DC Points 13-months reservation windows generally open each Tuesday, Weeks 12-month windows open each Thursday, and DC Points 12-month windows open on Friday. I think those are the right days. Someone can correct if I'm mistaken.

In this case I could probably call in on Tuesday as I will do only 13-month reservations and try to book one week using points and then using weeks. Will it be considered consecutive reservations?

 

[Dean]

In this case I could probably call in on Tuesday as I will do only 13-month reservations and try to book one week using points and then using weeks. Will it be considered consecutive reservations?

My understanding is that using points and weeks are treated independently. You couldn't book a week on point then the following week using weeks and actually for this example of 2 weeks (one each) you'd have to wait until 12 months out on the weeks side. Remember Marriott looks at those using points as essentially a Marriott exchange.

 

[dima]

As noted, points and weeks run differently. The enrolled vs non enrolled doesn't matter if you're booking the week and not using points. It sounds like you think this may be a difficult reservation. Am I reading correctly you want 6 villas with a week 49, week 50, and 2 each of 51 & 52? Do you have other resorts in other places you could reserve for say week 47 & 48 for example to give you a lead time to reserve? Could you book weeks 49-52 at 13 months out with weeks you own then if you can get week 49 & 50 on points, try to reschedule the weeks reservation to 51 & 52? If you can, you'll be ahead of the plan you have now simply because you'll have more chances and more options.

So assuming 6 villas over 4 weeks with 4 as weeks and 2 on points, and thinking other resorts as a lead in aren't workable, but also assuming all 4 weeks are in the same season; I'd do the following. Reserve weeks 49-52 on weeks by phone 13 months out and week 49-50 at 13 months out per the release calendar at 13 months out from week 49. The reservations days will be different even though both will be "13 months out". Hopefully the 2 points pools will flow a 1 (I don't know) and you can reserve 2 weeks at one time. If the weeks are different season as I suspect they will be, just don't miss your reservation windows.

yes, I want 6 weeks. I will carefully check when reservation days are open for each resort (using points and weeks) and try to align so they all consecutive (if not possible, then I probably add days with cash reservations).

Anyway, it worth to try to get these multiple weeks/resorts stretch for one great vacation!

Thank you all for your ideas and advices. They are all helpful and appreciated!

 

[Dean]

yes, I want 6 weeks. I will carefully check when reservation days are open for each resort (using points and weeks) and try to align so they all consecutive (if not possible, then I probably add days with cash reservations).

Anyway, it worth to try to get these multiple weeks/resorts stretch for one great vacation!

Thank you all for your ideas and advices. They are all helpful and appreciated!

Which resort if you don't mind me asking?

 

[SueDonJ]

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To add to what Susan said about reservation windows, each category has a different day of the week that the window opens. Weeks 13-month reservation windows generally open each Monday, DC Points 13-months reservation windows generally open each Tuesday, Weeks 12-month windows open each Thursday, and DC Points 12-month windows open on Friday. I think those are the right days. Someone can correct if I'm mistaken.

I don't believe that's right. My understanding is points can be reserved 13 months out on Tuesday & 12 months out Friday for a week at a time. For weeks it's based on 12 or 13 months out from the FIRST day of the week that's reservable for the first resort in the chain. That's one of the reasons I bought Willow Ridge because it's both lockoff and has a Thursday checkin.

And what happens if you add Leap Years and/or Week 53's into the mix?! GAH!!

This is why I NEVER think of an Inventory Release Day as a day of the week, why I think in terms of only the calendar date. This is why I suggest using the "Helpful Tools" on the owners' website each and every time that people ask the question about when to call, no matter if it's for one simple Week or a complex combination of Weeks and Points like dima's scenario above. Make sure that you choose the tool based on what you're booking (Weeks or Points) and follow the prompts correctly, and remember that Points inventory may become available online as early as 12:01AM on the Release Day.

We criticize MVW upside down and sideways every day of the week plus twice on Sundays for not making ownership easier! These tools in particular take away so much of the stress of booking floating intervals AND they take only a minute or two of your time when it's convenient for you! This is one time when we should all be writing thank-you letters to Marriott for making our lives easier - take full advantage of that!

 

[Dean]

And what happens if you add Leap Years and/or Week 53's into the mix?! GAH!!

This is why I NEVER think of an Inventory Release Day as a day of the week, why I think in terms of only the calendar date. This is why I suggest using the "Helpful Tools" on the owners' website each and every time that people ask the question about when to call, no matter if it's for one simple Week or a complex combination of Weeks and Points like dima's scenario above. Make sure that you choose the tool based on what you're booking (Weeks or Points) and follow the prompts correctly, and remember that Points inventory may become available online as early as 12:01AM on the Release Day.

We criticize MVW upside down and sideways every day of the week plus twice on Sundays for not making ownership easier! These tools in particular take away so much of the stress of booking floating intervals AND they take only a minute or two of your time when it's convenient for you! This is one time when we should all be writing thank-you letters to Marriott for making our lives easier - take full advantage of that!

Yes but it helps to understand the underlying components because it helps me to formulate the best plan to get what I want/need and it helps me to avoid missing a reservation opening date.

 

[SueDonJ]

In this case I could probably call in on Tuesday as I will do only 13-month reservations and try to book one week using points and then using weeks. Will it be considered consecutive reservations?

dima, this question makes me concerned that you don't understand my Post #10 above.

I'm not yelling at you here but I want to make sure you understand because this is important: NO! CONSECUTIVE INTERVALS USING THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS - WEEKS AND POINTS - ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE CONSECUTIVE FOR PURPOSES OF THE 13-MOS RESERVATION WINDOW ADVANTAGE.

A week booked using the Points system followed by a week using the Weeks system are considered to be two separate reservations with each subject to the respective terms and reservation windows of the two separate systems. Please look again at my post for the specifics of when you can try to book each of your desired separate reservations.

 

[SueDonJ]

Yes but it helps to understand the underlying components because it helps me to formulate the best plan to get what I want/need and it helps me to avoid missing a reservation opening date.

I know - it seems to be a thought process that remains for most of us from the days when Weeks were the only game in town. But back then my stress level when thinking about when and how to book multi-Weeks over a holiday period was through the roof - I swear I spent the first half of April asking TUGgers to confirm the day and then dreading the day I'd have to call to book for the following May! Now I search the Release Date whenever I think of it, sometimes months before it's necessary, put a memo on the calendar a few days before and forget about it. There's still some stress, of course, but never about whether I'm calling on the right day.

 

[dima]

dima, this question makes me concerned that you don't understand my Post #10 above.

I'm not yelling at you here but I want to make sure you understand because this is important: NO! CONSECUTIVE INTERVALS USING THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS - WEEKS AND POINTS - ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE CONSECUTIVE FOR PURPOSES OF THE 13-MOS RESERVATION WINDOW ADVANTAGE.

A week booked using the Points system followed by a week using the Weeks system are considered to be two separate reservations with each subject to the respective terms and reservation windows of the two separate systems. Please look again at my post for the specifics of when you can try to book each of your desired separate reservations.

Thank you!
No worries, now I got it

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[dima]

Which resort if you don't mind me asking?

I am talking about weeks 49-52 in Phuket (consecutive 49-52 and concurrent 51-52)
And then week 1 in Aruba.

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