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What should I buy

kjgodin

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1) Is there a vacation destination you wish to visit most of the time or on a regular basis? if so where? No

2) Do you want to visit your home resort at least half the time, or do you want to trade more than half the time? Probably trade

3) What are your 5 top trade destinations? Grand Canyon, New Orleans, Colorado, Caribbean, Tennessee

4) How many people do you usually travel with - total, including yourself? 4

5) Can you travel any time, or are you locked into the school schedule? Any time

6) Can you make firm plans 12 or more mos. in advance? Yes

7) Can you vacation for a full week at a time? Yes

8) What level of accommodations do you prefer on a scale of 1 to 5 stars? 3+

9) How much can you afford to spend upfront, without financing? 2k-3k

10) How much can you afford to spend every year for a maintenance fee that will come due right after Christmas, and increase each year? 1500-2000

11) Are you a detail oriented planner? yes

12) Do you understand that once you buy a timeshare, it may be very difficult to sell or give away, and you are responsible for all fees, until you do? Yes
 
Check out Worldmark. It is a pure Points/Credit System. You can pick up a resell Account for 10 cents or less per Credit. Look at www.wmowners.com/forum. It is a site by Worldmark Owners for Worldmark Owners. No involvement by Wyndham or Worldmark.
 
Check out Worldmark. It is a pure Points/Credit System. You can pick up a resell Account for 10 cents or less per Credit. Look at www.wmowners.com/forum. It is a site by Worldmark Owners for Worldmark Owners. No involvement by Wyndham or Worldmark.
I used to own Wydham. It looks like they combined. Is there a benefit of one sytem over the other?
 
1) Is there a vacation destination you wish to visit most of the time or on a regular basis? if so where? No

2) Do you want to visit your home resort at least half the time, or do you want to trade more than half the time? Probably trade

3) What are your 5 top trade destinations? Grand Canyon, New Orleans, Colorado, Caribbean, Tennessee

4) How many people do you usually travel with - total, including yourself? 4

5) Can you travel any time, or are you locked into the school schedule? Any time

6) Can you make firm plans 12 or more mos. in advance? Yes

7) Can you vacation for a full week at a time? Yes

8) What level of accommodations do you prefer on a scale of 1 to 5 stars? 3+

9) How much can you afford to spend upfront, without financing? 2k-3k

10) How much can you afford to spend every year for a maintenance fee that will come due right after Christmas, and increase each year? 1500-2000

11) Are you a detail oriented planner? yes

12) Do you understand that once you buy a timeshare, it may be very difficult to sell or give away, and you are responsible for all fees, until you do? Yes
I think you might struggle for "Grand Canyon" - I don't know that there are TS near there. Otherwise, I think Wyndham - Club Wyndham Select at a lower MF/Pt resort could work well for you. They have New Orleans, Colorado, Caribbean and Tennessee. If you're ok sharing a 1BR such that the other 2 people sleep on a sleeper sofa, I think you can certainly hit your budget. If you need a 2BR you might have to stretch for New Orleans to try and get the points needed under $2k a year. There are semi often various Wyndham give-aways on TUG in the free TS forum, but check the MF/pt offered. For La Belle Maison in NOLA you're looking at ~329,000pts for a 2BR for a week. Usually the points on offer tend to be around 300,000ish or 405,000ish that's near that value. Good news, you can for a small fee save points into the next year, so you could reasonably go to like Tennessee for ~ 148,000 pts and then use the saved points to go to NOLA the next year, rinse and repeat. Look at their website and you can download PDFs of the point charts for each resort. 1BR options are going to put you under 200K in many locations in some seasons. You should be able to get 203,000pts for around $2k a year in MF if you hunt a bit. Buying them might cost a bit for really low MF/pt ratios, but you can also sometimes find some in a giveaway for pretty good rates.

The other option I think is worth considering is RCI Points - if you're OK with 3* you can look for a Grandview or maybe high points value Massanutten contract that's already in RCI points. Make sure to get them to transfer. These can be had sometimes for just covering the transfer fees of around $700. MF can be around $1,000 at Grandview for 98,000 or more points, I believe the Massanutten one I saw was $1,600 for ~160,000 pts. IDK how expensive the Massanutten is to get - again, look for what's on offer on ebay and at TUG.

RCI points is a little more confusing than just using Wyndham points. You have a bit more random availability, but locations all over, including you'll often see like Wyndham Smoky Mountains available. If you go "last minute" you can see RCI points costs under 20,000, some under 10,000. However, you have to pay for an RCI account ($100 a year) and pay for each "booking" - right now it's $299. And when you get to the resort you often have to pay resort fees of about $110. (varies with the resort). That said, while there's a lot of "nickle and diming" the actual cost can be quite low. Let's say you compare Club Wyndham Smoky Mountains 2BR. While there's less availability than direct with Wyndham, Wyndham wants 148,000 Wyndham points to book. At a "easy to get MF/Pt ratio" that would work out to around $1,100. At a reasonably easy RCI Points like Grandview 98000 2BR, you are looking at 53,000 RCI pts. That's about $596, plus $110 resort fees, and $299 exchange fee and tax. That would work out to $1,030. It sounds like a lot of extra fees, but in reality you're paying around $70 less than direct, at the cost of less availability. But you get the benefit of no only having Wyndham locations, and getting better rates at all other RCI locations that via Wyndham corporate.

I think Wyndham is a bit better in availability an ease of use, and it still gets you RCI access (just at worse point value rates). You can always look for Last Calls and Extra Vacations for cash too.
 
I used to own Wydham. It looks like they combined. Is there a benefit of one sytem over the other?
They're only combined if you don't buy resale, instead you use club pass. In reality, in resale, you're probably going to decide based on locations. Worldmark is great on the west coast, Wyndham is better East coast. They do have some overlap though. I think Worldmark gets you II instead of RCI. There's no CWS option with Worldmark, it's all just the same MF/pt from what I can tell.
 
There is currently a 30,000 Credit Account For Sale on www.wmowners.com/forum for $1,500 plus the $399 Transfer Fee. Depending on the Season and Size of Unit this could get you 3 to 5 weeks. A resell Worldmark Owner has full access to the 100+ Worldmark Resorts; 4 WaitList for no fee; and, the 3 Cash Options - Bonus Time, Inventory Specials, and Monday Madness. You can borrow 1 year in advance and roll forward 2 years. This is all for no fees. With a 30,000 Credit Account you would get 3 Housekeeping Tokens (you can purchase more if necessary) and 3 Guest Certificates (again you can purchase more if necessary). Housekeeping Tokens follow the same rules as Credits for rollover and borrowing. Guest Certificates have to be used within 1 year of issuance. Do not rollover and can not borrow. You can buy/rent 1 time use Credits from other Owners up to twice your account size. So with a 30,000 Credit Account you could rent in 60,000 Credits if you had a big trip to plan.
 
I used to own Wydham. It looks like they combined. Is there a benefit of one sytem over the other?

More Worldmarks west of the Mississippi. More Wyndham east of the Mississippi. I find Worldmark slightly more Owners friendly. They are separate Systems. 25+ years ago Wyndham purchased the Developer Rights for Worldmark. As a separate issue the Worldmark BOD hired Wyndham to be the day-to-day Manager of the Worldmark Resorts. Worldmark consists of the Resorts, Members, and the BOD. They are not combined. Though Wyndham and Worldmark have agreed to some sharing agreements if you have WM+A Credits or Travelshare Credits you can use Club Pass to Book Wyndham Resorts and if you are Wyndham Owner that purchased your Points from Wyndham you can use Club Pass to Book Worldmark Resorts. There are controls to make sure this sure one side does not over Book the other side.
 
They're only combined if you don't buy resale, instead you use club pass. In reality, in resale, you're probably going to decide based on locations. Worldmark is great on the west coast, Wyndham is better East coast. They do have some overlap though. I think Worldmark gets you II instead of RCI. There's no CWS option with Worldmark, it's all just the same MF/pt from what I can tell.
The only part of this statement that is correct is that WM is more West coast and Wyndham east. The rest is just plain wrong. If you want information about WM, best to get it from actual WM owners.

For the Grand Canyon, the best timeshare is Wyndham's at Flagstaff. Next is the various resorts at Sedona.
 
I used to own Wydham. It looks like they combined. Is there a benefit of one sytem over the other?

I think Timeshare Nation is the best place to acquire a resale Worldmark Membership because it's totally free and Timeshare Nation is a broker making sure the paperwork is correct. We used eBay to acquire our first few Worldmark Memberships. The seller pays all costs. There were two years of credits included.

Another place I see many Worldmark accounts for free is the Worldmark buy and sell groups on Facebook. I've actually completed the transfer paperwork myself on one of the Worldmark Memberships we owned which is what happens on the Facebook page most often.

We live in Washington State and many of the Worldmark resorts are driving distance from home. This makes it easy to take family members as they can just drive to the resort. My best exchange using Worldmark was 8000 credits and about a $150 exchange fee in RCI to get a 1 bed 2 bath Manhatten Club. This September week costed under $1,000 is my guess. The exchange fee's have gone up since then. SFX ( San Francisco Exchange) works well with Worldmark for our needs. Interval Internationale works well with Worldmark too. Since Travel & Liesure has Worldmark and RCI in their portfolio, it makes using RCI online very easy.

You might look at the Worldmark website to see the locations of the resorts. I think there is faq called owner guide or help somewhere on the Worldmark website that might answer some of your concerns.

Bill
 
If you want to find out about Worldmark go to www.wmowners.com/forum. This is a Site by Worldmark Owners for Worldmark Owners. Worldmark and Wyndham have nothing to do with it. The Owners are happy to help and answer questions. Though it might be best to spend some time reviewing the Forum Entries. It costs nothing to join.
 
If you want to find out about Worldmark go to www.wmowners.com/forum. This is a Site by Worldmark Owners for Worldmark Owners. Worldmark and Wyndham have nothing to do with it. The Owners are happy to help and answer questions. Though it might be best to spend some time reviewing the Forum Entries. It costs nothing to join.

I just tried your link and couldn't get in. This is what I got instead.

Bill

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You don't have permission to access this resource.
 
Ok. I will check into it.
 
Ok. I will check into it.

I figured it out. I'm using Nord. I can go to wmowners.com and then to the forum. Supposedly, vpn's are blocked but Nord was only blocked trying to enter the forum using a direct link to the forum.

Bill
 
Can worldmark owners with travelshare get Wyndham properties at a cash rate? I see worldmark has many cash options like Monday madness but not sure if they have an option like that for Wyndham stuff.
 
Can worldmark owners with travelshare get Wyndham properties at a cash rate? I see worldmark has many cash options like Monday madness but not sure if they have an option like that for Wyndham stuff.

Travel Share doesn't transfer to resale memberships. The cash options for Worldmark are bonus time, fax time and Monday Madness. The cash options include the house keeping cost.

Bill
 
Travel Share doesn't transfer to resale memberships. The cash options for Worldmark are bonus time, fax time and Monday Madness. The cash options include the house keeping cost.

Bill
My question is if travelshare has a cash option for Wyndham. My friend has a WM account with Travelsahre. There are ways to get it to transfer if I am added to account before the transfer. Plus I can use the guest certificates in the meantime
 
We visited part of the Grand Canyon from Sedona/ Flagstaff area. Wyndham has resorts within a few hours' drive. We enjoyed two days of driving to the location, but if you have little kids, the drive will seem long. We are old! There are no timeshares on the north rim. If there were, I would definitely know about it.

I am of the opinion that diversity is key. WorldMark is a great system for West and some national parks. Wyndham is so-so in those areas, but you really cannot get WorldMark through Wyndham, no matter what they say at sales' presentations. Sure, if you only have one week of vacation a year, it's really important that the system/ week you buy is exactly what you love.

The best part of timeshare is knowing where you want to go much of the time and try to match that with a timeshare or a system that works for that particular area or resort. Then make sure that the system you buy is attached to a good exchange company.

There is only one exchange company I will use, and that's Interval International. Most of my weeks trade through II, but I have a few that are in RCI, and I generally feel stuck with those, to be honest. These are older resorts and I get behind with those and have to constantly combine my TPU's (trading power units/ points for weeks) and extend them longer.

Exchanging is the way I get most everywhere. I use Sheratons and Marriotts.
 
My question is if travelshare has a cash option for Wyndham.

I kind of doubt that Wyndham has a Travel Share. I think in Wyndham it's called Vacation Share. I'm not that familiar with Wyndham so maybe someone else can chime in.

In Worldmark, I think Travel Share is now called VIP. At our last presentation they were pushing the VIP program.

Bill
 
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