What is this part of a door knob called?

[Teresa]

I ordered some lever privacy door handles and each set doesn't have the ...... Ack - I don't know the name of it so it's hard to find it by googling.

It's the plate that goes on the door around the latch. Not the strike plate on the door frame. It has two screws in it and the latch goes through it. I want to call it the 'door plate' but that is something else (which can be quite pricey).

I'm guessing these are not normally sold by themselves but I'd like to at least try.

I'd appreciate if someone could tell me the technical name for it so I can search for some.

Thanks!

 

[beanie]

the latch plate . you can find some here . http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=779415&click=2744

 

[Teresa]

Thanks - but ...

Thanks for the lead but that's not the part I'm talking about.

I need the part that goes ON the door - not on the frame.

See what I mean about having the right name for it? Maybe there is no name for it. Maybe it only comes with the lockset. Although Home Depot or Lowes has the latch and this plate (or whatever it's called) together for about $5 each. I only need that plate - not the whole mechanism.

 

[Janie]

Teresa, do you mean the rosette? That is the decorative, usually circular piece that the long shaft on the knob goes through. It screws to the door.

 

[Rose Pink]

Thanks for the lead but that's not the part I'm talking about.

I need the part that goes ON the door - not on the frame.

See what I mean about having the right name for it? Maybe there is no name for it. Maybe it only comes with the lockset. Although Home Depot or Lowes has the latch and this plate (or whatever it's called) together for about $5 each. I only need that plate - not the whole mechanism.

I thought the strike plate went on the door frame and the latch plate went on the door itself.

I think that for $5, I'd just go ahead and buy the set from Home Depot. Or, you could call the company that made your door handles and ask them why they didn't come with the mystery part. Maybe they will send them to you free of charge.

 

[pjrose]

It's the opposite of the striker plate. It's part of the lockset rather than part of the door knob.

It's pictured here, but identified along with the "deadlatch" even though it's clearly a separate part.

http://alsnetbiz.com/homeimprovement/faq20.html

Also here:
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4814502/128218-main_Full.jpg

and here:
http://www.ronhazelton.com/archives/howto/images/603a-78.jpg
In any case, I agree with Rose Pink (as I often do )

 

[Htoo0]

If you're referring to the faceplate I thought they were usually part of the latch mechanism. The shape of the shaft which passes through the latch mechanism and inserts into each handle is often quite different between brands. I'm not sure what you purchased that it wasn't complete.

 

[Teresa]

Thanks for the replies!

The third link that pjrose had posted was the closest. Just the plate around the latch. So what's it called (GRINNING)? This is for a doorknob (lever type) set. I don't know why it didn't come with the rest of the hardware. I bought ten of 'em at a quantity discount for what works out to $8 per door (including shipping). Less than 1/2 price of what I'd pay at HD or Lowes. Even if I spring for the $5 each for the whole mechanism it will be less than 'regular' for this type of 'knob'.

I have contacted the seller and waiting to hear back from him. When reading the instructions they made reference to a 'mobile home set' which I think this is supposed to be - thus the missing 'thingy' - although except for this part, the whole thing fits well in our regular pre-drilled six panel doors.

I'm guessing most mobile home doors are metal and 'predrilled' for this lockset so no need for the 'thingy' (door plate). I learn something new every day. How interesting (and sometimes frustrating).

Off to our local hardware store which is almost as old as our town. On their fourth generation of the same family running the place. They have nearly everything hardware related (and lots of things that aren't)!

 

[Elan]

I believe that's called the mortise plate. They are typically attached to the latch. Are you sure you need one?

 

[Passepartout]

After looking at many locksets online, I'm with HtooO. The 'thingy' should have been included with the lockset. I've looked at all of 'em around the house, and all have one of those two-screw-attaching 'surrounds' of the part that extends out of the lockset- the deadbolt for lack of a better term.

It'll be interesting to hear what the seller says.

Jim Ricks

 

[Elan]

After looking at many locksets online, I'm with HtooO. The 'thingy' should have been included with the lockset. I've looked at all of 'em around the house, and all have one of those two-screw-attaching 'surrounds' of the part that extends out of the lockset- the deadbolt for lack of a better term.

It'll be interesting to hear what the seller says.

Jim Ricks

I believe there are both "screw in" and "drive in" type latches. The drive in type require no mortise plate.

 

[Htoo0]

Still think it's call a faceplate. But what I'm really not clear about is whether the lever handles came with a new latch or not. The shaft (or spindle) which goes between the two handles and operates the latch vary considerably between sets. Some are a flat bar, some are D shaped, some square, and even some triangular. So did the OP receive new latches without this 'piece' or are the handles supposed to work with the old latches? What holds the latch in place without this 'piece'? I think I have seen some latches which had a 'thingy' which was then covered by a more decorative faceplate but that's not typical.

 

[pjrose]

faceplate seems right!

Here, it is called a faceplate (#2):

http://bucarotechelp.com/articles/howto/93092201.asp

and here, it's the "latch faceplate", as described in about the 10th paragraph, beginning with the word "Next".

http://www.extremehowto.com/xh/article.asp?article_id=60139

I thought the faceplate was the decorative part that surrounds the knob; sometimes it's called a "knob plate", and sometimes it's called a faceplate or knob faceplate.

Interesting what one can find on Google!

 

[Elan]

Apparently whatever it's called, it's got multiple names. When I Googled "mortise plate" it took me to web pages that depicted the exact item in question. In fact, I found jigs for mortising the mortise plate and the striker plate. I would think "latch plate" would be the most accurate term.

At any rate, as I mentioned earlier, there are two types of latches (perhaps more). It would appear the OP bought latches that are drive-in, not screw-in. None of our doors, neither exterior or interior, have mortise plates. They all employ drive-in type latches.

 

[RDB]

What you refer to is a latch faceplate.

Once I installed a latch in a trailerhouse door.
There was no latch faceplate, only a latch that slid within a tube.

The tube/latch assembly got lightly driven into the latch bore of the door edge. The knob mechanizum held it in place.

You may have purchased trailerhouse assemblies.

 

[beanie]

I think I had the name right ( or one of it's variations ) but posted the wrong link