VV Williamsburg - insights needed please!

[lilorunsmarathons]

Hi all, I am diving into the resale market and am interested in VV Williamsburg given the low MF and ability to trade. A couple of questions:

1. I found a summer week at VV Williamsburg that claims that the property is 2 bedroom lock-off. The agent sent me the estoppel and sure enough, that's what it shows. Does anyone know if 2 bdr lock-offs exist at VV Williamsburg (eg only thought there were 4 bdr lock-off units). If so, can I deposit as 2 x 1bdr weeks in interval International?

2. There's also another 4 bdr unit for week 47 (Thanksgiving). Would this be a good trader in the interval international system?? I'm hoping to be able to see DVC and MVC properties. (TDI attached.)

Thanks so much for your insights!!

 

[iftravel]

Neither is a good choice for trading. If you can be patient, you will find a prime week 4-bd lock off like this, sometime for free. It's supposed to be the best value you can get within VV family.

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[WorldT]

Hi all, I am diving into the resale market and am interested in VV Williamsburg given the low MF and ability to trade. A couple of questions:

1. I found a summer week at VV Williamsburg that claims that the property is 2 bedroom lock-off. The agent sent me the estoppel and sure enough, that's what it shows. Does anyone know if 2 bdr lock-offs exist at VV Williamsburg (eg only thought there were 4 bdr lock-off units). If so, can I deposit as 2 x 1bdr weeks in interval International?

2. There's also another 4 bdr unit for week 47 (Thanksgiving). Would this be a good trader in the interval international system?? I'm hoping to be able to see DVC and MVC properties. (TDI attached.)

Thanks so much for your insights!!

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I second the post above. 4 bedroom EOY summer week is the best for a beginner. Unless you are very certain of a lot of traveling. Keep in mind there will be accommodation certificates and getaway options to utilize too. If you need more, you can always acquire another EOY later.

You can also look at the sister property The Colonies also in Williamsburg.

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

Best news ever - the week #27 contract (4th of July peak demand week) was marked wrong (it's actually a 4 bdr instead of 2!) People passed this free listing by due to this error and it was labeled as Williamsburg Plantation (former name). I called VV with the contract # and verified the error / currently in the transfer process now.

 

[austdav]

Does Williamsburg trade well. I constantly see these on last call and II for little $ getaways. Going soon to Holiday inn their for 400 for a 2bd.

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

Yes - very well. An travel influencer I follow on Instagram (homeschooling with points) shared that even with a week 3 deposit at VV Williamsburg (lowest demand per chart I posted), she was seeing the Disney vacation club (DVC) inventory that was dumped into Interval this am. Take a look at her saved stories "timeshare trading with DVC". It is eye opening that you can pay ~$1k to stay at the Boardwalk villas or Animal Kingdom Lodge for 1 week (or non-Disney / Marriott premier resorts)! For reference, these resorts are typically $500-600 a night.

 

[noreenkate]

Yes - very well. An travel influencer I follow on Instagram (homeschooling with points) shared that even with a week 3 deposit at VV Williamsburg (lowest demand per chart I posted), she was seeing the Disney vacation club (DVC) inventory that was dumped into Interval this am. Take a look at her saved stories "timeshare trading with DVC". It is eye opening that you can pay ~$1k to stay at the Boardwalk villas or Animal Kingdom Lodge for 1 week (or non-Disney / Marriott premier resorts)! For reference, these resorts are typically $500-600 a night.

Used my VV Williamsburg this year to trade into DVC animal kingdom 1bedroom it cost less than using my DVC points

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

Love it! I'm a fellow DVC owner too, so I can use these trade weeks for long weekend trips if I can't stay 2 full weeks. It's still a great deal even if you stay half the week!

 

[iftravel]

Love it! I'm a fellow DVC owner too, so I can use these trade weeks for long weekend trips if I can't stay 2 full weeks. It's still a great deal even if you stay half the week!

You are off to a great start! Many great vacations awaiting! Welcome to the VV family, lol.

 

[noreenkate]

Love it! I'm a fellow DVC owner too, so I can use these trade weeks for long weekend trips if I can't stay 2 full weeks. It's still a great deal even if you stay half the week!

Gotta say through every time I have done it MS has been a little less than polite.

 

[gravityrules]

Does Williamsburg trade well. I constantly see these on last call and II for little $ getaways. Going soon to Holiday inn their for 400 for a 2bd.

It is interesting that an overbuilt destination like Williamsburg trades well when as you noted there seems to be inexpensive inventory available most of the time.

As far as I know that present nice trade power isn't a contractual right, the exchange companies could change that at any time. That's a risk of buying for trading arbitrage.

 

[dioxide45]

Yes - very well. An travel influencer I follow on Instagram (homeschooling with points) shared that even with a week 3 deposit at VV Williamsburg (lowest demand per chart I posted), she was seeing the Disney vacation club (DVC) inventory that was dumped into Interval this am. Take a look at her saved stories "timeshare trading with DVC". It is eye opening that you can pay ~$1k to stay at the Boardwalk villas or Animal Kingdom Lodge for 1 week (or non-Disney / Marriott premier resorts)! For reference, these resorts are typically $500-600 a night.

@lilorunsmarathons Would you mind sharing the handle of that Instagram influencer?

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

@lilorunsmarathons Would you mind sharing the handle of that Instagram influencer?

Homeschoolingwithpoints

 

[dioxide45]

Homeschoolingwithpoints

Perhaps you could post a link somehow? That doesn't seem to come up using a search on Instagram or even Google.

 

[WorldT]

I don't know about week 3 but my week 25 at at The Colonies can see the DVC currently in II.

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

Perhaps you could post a link somehow? That doesn't seem to come up using a search on Instagram or even Google.

https://www.instagram.com/homeschoolingonpoints?igsh=dGpxNW9neTdocXB0

 

[lilorunsmarathons]

I don't know about week 3 but my week 25 at at The Colonies can see the DVC currently in II.

Awesome - my deeded week is 27!

 

[dioxide45]

https://www.instagram.com/homeschoolingonpoints?igsh=dGpxNW9neTdocXB0

Thanks. That explains it. "with" vs "on".

 

[Danlop88]

Thanks. That explains it. "with" vs "on".

Does anyone know, let’s say someone purchased VV Williamsburg and this goes viral because of the opportunity to trade into Disney, now everyone is purchasing and deposting the same resort into II. Would this lower their trading power?

 

[dioxide45]

Does anyone know, let’s say someone purchased VV Williamsburg and this goes viral because of the opportunity to trade into Disney, now everyone is purchasing and deposting the same resort into II. Would this lower their trading power?

II can and has changed trading power over time for resorts. I suspect if something like this became a big issue, then they might make a change. Either increase the trading power required to book DVC or reduce the trading power of the weeks being deposited. Unfortunately when things like this get proliferated like this, the companies make changes. Many people blame the bloggers for causing destruction to many of the frequent flier programs.

 

[escanoe]

The VV resorts in Williamsburg have had a reputation as being excellent II traders for years.

Maybe they see some gradual devaluation (especially if Williamsburg becomes a less attractive destination over time).

What has surprised me is some of the discussion here about how non prime weeks trade well. I would stay away from the non prime weeks. Williamsburg has a bunch of excess inventory for much of the year.

Inventory seems to be used up fairly well for prime summer weeks.

 

[Danlop88]

The VV resorts in Williamsburg have had a reputation as being excellent II traders for years.

Maybe they see some gradual devaluation (especially if Williamsburg becomes a less attractive destination over time).

What has surprised me is some of the discussion here about how non prime weeks trade well. I would stay away from the non prime weeks. Williamsburg has a bunch of excess inventory for much of the year.
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Inventory seems to be used up fairly well for prime summer weeks.

I only brought up my question because that Instagram user came up on my feed maybe 2 weeks ago, then someone linked same instagram user here, and also yesterday someone linked them again in a facebook group. So I was just wondering, if this caught one what would happen to the value of the resort.

 

[Hindsite]

if this caught one what would happen to the value of the resort.

II exchanges are supposed to be "like for like" so yes, if you have a deposit that consistently gets larger unit sizes, significantly higher TDI and more popular locations, don't be surprised if that doesn't last forever. It may last decades more, it may be much shorter or never change.

This year we've seen downgrades II in trading power for Hyatt, Welk and diamond points system as well as some reduction for some Sheraton weeks traders, independents, and possibly more that we just don't hear about. The bragging about how you could get 5 weeks in II for 1 week of Hyatt ownership has stopped completely, they can probably get 2 or 3 weeks now, but not the exceptional value that they did have.

Ultimately the ability to exchange via II, and the associated trading power, is a discretionary benefit of ownership, so a resort could be dropped or choose to move from II completely.

Understand the risk and enjoy the opportunity is what you need to do. Have an exit plan and use it when you no longer get the value from the ownership, whatever your reason.

 

[noreenkate]

So I was just wondering, if this caught one what would happen to the value of the resort.

This is why I stick with the rule only buy where your willing to stay…Although I got this advice from a DVC owners forum that was long ago archived, the advice IMO holds true for pretty much all timeshares. The rules can change at time for multiple reasons. If it all goes south with trading ect - we are prepared to vacation there.