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Video review of Villa Roma (The worst timeshare I've ever stayed at?) and Bethel Woods Peace love and Pumpkins

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The best part of the trip could have been a night at the Hampton Inn and the Halloween displays!
 

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Sorry you had a bad exchange. You can always call II during the stay and see if they can find you something else.
 

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I went to see what the TUG reviews said about Villa Roma. Of course most were fine, but there were a few outliers who also thought it wasn't a good exchange. We had a similar experience at a place that most tuggers love - Island Park near West Yellowstone. We are pretty sure that they have a terrible unit that they give to exchangers. It was rundown and dated, and had a filthy stairwell, so once we returned I went and reread the TUG reviews. I felt like others, especially owners, were describing a different place. Another tugger exchanged in and received the same awful unit as us and had the same experience. I guess that some places are like that.

For the future, even though Interval *does* have nicer places than RCI (for the most part) not every resort is high quality. You need to do your research. I am glad that you made the best of it.
 

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Thank you for posting your video review, I see you gave it a '4' in the review section. Sorry your first II getaway was a flop. What II resort in Orlando is your next getaway? I expect that should be a major improvement!

Your experience at Villa Roma brings me back to a previous thread where we discussed review methodology, I think you are correctly applying the recommended criteria for TUG reviews since you said you would not return to this resort. But most of the TUG reviews are '8' or so ... so did you wonder what the other reviewers were seeing different? Kind of the same thing with TripAdvisor, Villa Roma is 3.5 stars ... not great but not horrible either. TA is likely taking in 'other than timeshare' reviews so not really reviewing the same product.

I have a yet to publish review of a resort in the Smoky Mountains where my experience was like yours, good reviews here on TUG and 4 stars (out of 5) on TA and I'm trying to decide if it merits a 5 out of 10 on TUG.
I feel a bit odd about being the negative outlier and am aware of the urge to bump my rating upwards a bit ... kind of like the 'data herding' in a lot of polls this season ... most don't want to be the outliers.
 

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I went to see what the TUG reviews said about Villa Roma. Of course most were fine, but there were a few outliers who also thought it wasn't a good exchange. We had a similar experience at a place that most tuggers love - Island Park near West Yellowstone. We are pretty sure that they have a terrible unit that they give to exchangers. It was rundown and dated, and had a filthy stairwell, so once we returned I went and reread the TUG reviews. I felt like others, especially owners, were describing a different place. Another tugger exchanged in and received the same awful unit as us and had the same experience. I guess that some places are like that.
IDK where the "better units" would be - we did walk the entire "center building" to get to the hot tub and rec center as they are on the opposite side from where our unit was. Sadly, I didn't think to video walking through the main building, but aside from the main lobby, everything felt odd / old / similar. The hallways were "random", the floors were constantly sloping up or down and cross hallways would be sloped differently without a leveled "center". We were in an area of about 10 buildings that all looked the same from the outside anyway.

EDIT: And unless they're full of owners such that only the crappy unit is available, I think it's terrible marketing for them - I'm going to be basing most of my reviews on some sort of exchange, either inside HGVC/Wyndham or via RCI or II. But outside of the tiny reach of this forum and youtube - anyone going there is going to be taking that into account if they were ever going to think of buying. It's like - if you're running a used car dealership, don't have your 20 year old rustbucket as the test drive car / on the frontage of your lot.
For the future, even though Interval *does* have nicer places than RCI (for the most part) not every resort is high quality. You need to do your research. I am glad that you made the best of it.
I did my research - if you saw the photos in the video, read the TUG ratings and even see the trip advisor stuff in the next post after yours... there was every reason to think this was going to be at least slightly above average.
 
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Thank you for posting your video review, I see you gave it a '4' in the review section. Sorry your first II getaway was a flop. What II resort in Orlando is your next getaway? I expect that should be a major improvement!
Sheraton Vistana Villages. Here's hoping it's a step up, or I might try and change locations.
Your experience at Villa Roma brings me back to a previous thread where we discussed review methodology, I think you are correctly applying the recommended criteria for TUG reviews since you said you would not return to this resort. But most of the TUG reviews are '8' or so ... so did you wonder what the other reviewers were seeing different?
Yes - when I saw the 8s I was like - these can't be real. At least 25% of my rating was public shared spaces - the "Bowling Alley" was shut down blocked with stacked boxes - looked like they turned it into storage some time ago. The walkway to the main building was missing it's awning cover for 75% of it, 33% of the center railing on the stairs was literally barely attached and unsafe. The events were scheduled the night before - you were supposed to go after 6PM or something to pick up a new sheet for the next day. The hot tub was back in a corner in basically an attached shed. The "business walkway" wasn't open when we walked through, but it was older looking.

If I HAD to guess, people rating it highly aren't doing so because of the rooms or decor or even build safety, but because of the events and things to do (many of which seemed shut down for the season - fair enough - but that means that the "bump" is like 3 months out of the year). The shuttle for tweens and older getting to stuff without needing the parents to drive them might also be a plus. Or - maybe most reviewers see the place with "rose colored glasses" at a power level of like +100 lol. IDK. We were in a busy section of the resort - I think over 50% of the units were full, which is high for us on many getaways like this.

This all goes back to the review methodology - for me the room / unit is the core important thing if it falls outside of the 5.5-9 range. I don't care how amazing anything else is if I'm almost squicked out from the bed or bathroom. And... we almost were. Slightly worse and we'd have just left. And as cool as all the inside ping pong, pool table, shuffleboard, etc were - there's plenty of places that have those available (if not always inside) that have way way nicer units, AND more to do in the area. (I can't emphasize enough that Massanutten is a happening area by far with lots more food and store options than Villa Roma)
Kind of the same thing with TripAdvisor, Villa Roma is 3.5 stars ... not great but not horrible either. TA is likely taking in 'other than timeshare' reviews so not really reviewing the same product.
I did not get to see the inside of their "hotel rooms" in the hotel section, but the hallways were exactly the same as in the timeshare building, and some parts of the main building were also timeshares. I think a lot of the reviews are just not using a good methodology. I probably would have rated this lower "as a hotel".
I have a yet to publish review of a resort in the Smoky Mountains where my experience was like yours, good reviews here on TUG and 4 stars (out of 5) on TA and I'm trying to decide if it merits a 5 out of 10 on TUG.
I feel a bit odd about being the negative outlier and am aware of the urge to bump my rating upwards a bit
Yea, as I said, the rooms probably rated a 3, but I bumped it to a 4 because of the free activities and number of food options (we didn't try any though). I just feel like if I wanted to play ping-pong, go to the hot tub, sauna, etc I could stay for about the same price at Regal Vistas which are much nicer if a bit more of a drive.
 

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IDK where the "better units" would be - we did walk the entire "center building" to get to the hot tub and rec center as they are on the opposite side from where our unit was. Sadly, I didn't think to video walking through the main building, but aside from the main lobby, everything felt odd / old / similar. The hallways were "random", the floors were constantly sloping up or down and cross hallways would be sloped differently without a leveled "center". We were in an area of about 10 buildings that all looked the same from the outside anyway.

I did my research - if you saw the photos in the video, read the TUG ratings and even see the trip advisor stuff in the next post after yours... there was every reason to think this was going to be at least slightly above average.
I hear you. It was a weird experience when we got home. I couldn't square my experience with what others experienced. The only thing that I could think was that I was pickier than other people. Btw, at Island Park there were definitely units that had been renovated based upon what others posted. I have no idea if that was the case at Villa Roma.

With II what I was referring to about "nicer" resorts is that the Marriott/Westin/Hyatt/Sheraton resorts are definitely going to be nice. Some of the independents are as well, but you need to do some digging there. And even then you may find something that just doesn't work for you. So, I would chalk it up to a funny experience, hopefully never to be repeated.
 
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