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Timeshare for sale [Parc soliel Orlando FL. - 20K owed on Mtge.]

Bk84

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I am offering my time share for sale $1. I bought it a year ago. Its a Hilton grand vacation club located in Orlando FL.
Details: Parc soliel Orlando FL.
Points : 5440 even and odd year.
Price : 1$.
 

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- How many bedrooms?
- Is it paid off?
- Is the 2025 maintenance fee paid?
- How much is the maintenance fee?
- Is 2025 the first usage year for the new buyer?
 

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- How many bedrooms?
- Is it paid off?
- Is the 2025 maintenance fee paid?
- How much is the maintenance fee?
- Is 2025 the first usage year for the new buyer?
1 bedroom, i have not paid annual fee yet but will pay before selling. Maintenance fee 1111$. I bought it in Feb 2024. I have not used it for year 2025.
 

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- Is the purchase price paid off?
 

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OK - I hate to tell you this, but no one is going to buy it with an unpaid Mtge., and it is no longer "free." You should have disclosed that in your first post.
 

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You need to find someone willing to pay $20,000 in order to sell it and complete the transfer. Chances of that are zero when people can pick these up for close to $0 on the resale market without a mortgage still attached. Unfortunatly your options to get our are very limited. Your best options are to use it. Pay it off and then give it away. The last option is defaulting and foreclosure. Realize that Florida is a non-judicial foreclosure state for timeshares and they don't have any recourse on the unpaid debt as long as you don't dispute the foreclosure. There is likely to be a hit to your credit score. If this is important to you or your job requires security clearance, tread lightly.
 

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Let me state upfront that I am not an attorney nor an expert on Florida real estate law as pertains to timeshares. However, an attorney (whose TUG name is/was Grammarhero) who seemed quite knowledgeable about Florida timeshare law (and, indeed, did research on timeshare law in every state in the US) posted the following on TUG:


From my understanding, his interpretation of Florida timeshare law (which you can read for yourself in the above TUG post) was that a Florida resort/HOA/developer, if an owner doesn't pay what's owed, can only seek to foreclose via a non-judicial proceeding (without any judge being involved). Since a judge is not involved who might make a determination that you still owe such-and-such money, there would not and could not be a deficiency judgment. There would never arise any means by which the resort could get back a penny.

But that's only if you don't object in any way. If you say "What the F are you talking about? I only owe $20,000 and not the $20,100 you claim I owe", I would think that's an objection. If you simply say, "I object", that's an objection. If you say, "You crooks lied your behinds off and fraudulently sold me a piece of horse dung for tens of thousands of dollars. I'm going to sue you" that's an objection. So don't object so that they can't play the "Gotya!" game and immediately run to a court because "obviously" a judge will have to render a decision.

As Dioxide points out, perhaps there might be a hit to your credit. After you'd be safely out of your timeshare and they'd have no further recourse against you, I'd write explanations for each of my credit companies' records if you did get such a hit. Everybody/most people knows/know what a timeshare is and I believe (but I don't know for sure) that nobody would hold it against you if you chose to default.

That being said, how might you prevent any possibility of a credit hit? It seems to me that Florida timeshare law puts you in an extraordinarily powerful negotiating position. By contacting the collectors of the timeshare debt, and letting them know that you know that all they can get is the "property" back, you might suggest that they take back the deed without paying for the non-judicial foreclosure route. And see what they say. Maybe there's not much work or time involved in a non-judicial foreclosure, but I bet there's even less work and time involved in simply accepting back your deed. And since that would be a mutually agreed upon transaction, I can't see how that would lead to any negative credit report implications.

One "bad" thing that may result from your getting out of your timeshare is that the act of forgiving your debt might result in some amount of "taxable income" that you'd have to report on your income tax. Again, I'm not an accountant or tax attorney but that's something you might reasonably expect.

So...the last thing I would recommend is not to 100% rely upon information you get from any Internet source. If it were me, I would seek out a Florida attorney and perhaps get at least a telephone consultation (hopefully free). And ask him or her if the above is the current state of Florida law. And also could it make a difference if they creatively structured the loan so that it was not truly a "timeshare" loan but some other type of loan.
 
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You need to find someone willing to pay $20,000 in order to sell it and complete the transfer. Chances of that are zero when people can pick these up for close to $0 on the resale market without a mortgage still attached. Unfortunatly your options to get our are very limited. Your best options are to use it. Pay it off and then give it away. The last option is defaulting and foreclosure. Realize that Florida is a non-judicial foreclosure state for timeshares and they don't have any recourse on the unpaid debt as long as you don't dispute the foreclosure. There is likely to be a hit to your credit score. If this is important to you or your job requires security clearance, tread lightly.
My job does require security clearance. My gets monitored regularly any hit on credit impacts will be sitting in interview with higher ups.
 

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Does anyone have opinion on Fidelity real estate brokerage out of Orlando FL. I approached them to list my timeshare for sale
 

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Does anyone have opinion on Fidelity real estate brokerage out of Orlando FL. I approached them to list my timeshare for sale
It depends on their fee to you. Are they charging an upfront fee? I know they are a partner company to Timeshares Only who is a high upfront fee listing company. Many of the listings have very high prices to make you think the timeshare has a lot of value so you justify their very high listing fee. It still won't sell. The truth is you own $20K on the timeshare. Fidelity or Timeshares Only isn't going to sell it for enough to pay off the loan. If they are saying they can get $20K for your timeshare, they are likely looking to just take an upfront fee and your timeshare will languish on their website for years. Save yourself the money and put it toward paying down the loan.
 

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Does anyone have opinion on Fidelity real estate brokerage out of Orlando FL. I approached them to list my timeshare for sale
You cannot sell your timeshare with a loan on it. PERIOD. Anyone promising you anything else is just scamming you out of more money. HGVC with even higher point value for similar maintenance fees are being given away for free. These are free and clear with no loan on them.
 

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It depends on their fee to you. Are they charging an upfront fee? I know they are a partner company to Timeshares Only who is a high upfront fee listing company. Many of the listings have very high prices to make you think the timeshare has a lot of value so you justify their very high listing fee. It still won't sell. The truth is you own $20K on the timeshare. Fidelity or Timeshares Only isn't going to sell it for enough to pay off the loan. If they are saying they can get $20K for your timeshare, they are likely looking to just take an upfront fee and your timeshare will languish on their website for years. Save yourself the money and put it toward paying down the loan.
They stated on contract that their fee 2k or 15% of selling price whichever is greater. Fee is due at closing nothing upfront. I have not signed the contract yet. Just asking for advice before taking any action.
 

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Don’t waste your money. You’re not going to find a buyer willing to pay $20k for your mortgage.

If you look on Fidelity’s website someone has a 2 bedroom unit for $0. Why would anyone pay $20k for yours? Keep your money and use it to pay down your loan. Once its paid off give it away or learn to use it.
 

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the fact a company would not be honest with you upfront about the complete and total inability to sell this timeshare with a 20k loan balance should tell you all you need to know about that company.

you will discover most people in this industry dont want to help you do anything other than give them money.
 
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