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Timber Lodge BOD election - MVW trying to stack board with employees

TimGolobic

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I won't name names, you can figure it out from your BOD election ballot. There is an MVW employee running for a Timber Lodge BOD seat. Your president is already a covert MVW hired mercenary. They have them on opposite years so they can put all of their voting power behind one of them each election cycle and not split their votes if they were on the same ballot.
 
Do the Timber Lodge unit owners have a platform to communicate with one another, electronically? This move by MVW should be a matter of the highest level of attention to unit owners.

You might want to contact Robert M. Bone, Esquire, of the Timeshare Board Law Group LLP, ‭(707) 525-8999‬, http://robertbonelaw.com/, https://timeshareboardlawgroup.com/

Attorney Bone was the president (or, a member, I don’t remember) of a Lake Tahoe timeshare HOA, Olympic Village Inn, when a developer was up to no good. He mobilized the owners, and they won the battle with the developer.

Attorney Bone may be helpful to the Timber Lodge unit owners.

 
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I won't name names, you can figure it out from your BOD election ballot. There is an MVW employee running for a Timber Lodge BOD seat. Your president is already a covert MVW hired mercenary. They have them on opposite years so they can put all of their voting power behind one of them each election cycle and not split their votes if they were on the same ballot.
What is a "covert MVW-hired mercenary"?!?! I have to admit, that's not a term I've ever read on TUG before.
 
Do the GRC, Lake Tahoe unit owners have a platform to communicate with one another, electronically? This move by MVW should be a matter of the highest level of attention to unit owners.

You might want to contact Robert M. Bone, Esquire, of the Timeshare Board Law Group LLP, ‭(707) 525-8999‬, http://robertbonelaw.com/, https://timeshareboardlawgroup.com/

Attorney Bone was the president (or, a member, I don’t remember) of a Lake Tahoe timeshare HOA, Olympic Village Inn, when a developer was up to no good. He mobilized the owners, and they won the battle with the developer.

Attorney Bone may be helpful to the GRC, Lake Tahoe unit owners.

It shouldn't matter here what the Grand Residence Club-Tahoe owners have or don't have to help them communicate, because Timber Lodge is a completely separate resort from GRC-Tahoe with a completely separate BOD.

I'm also confused why you linked a 2017 article that doesn't at all say that Mr. Bone won a battle against a developer. It does say that Wyndham took over that previously-independent resort when members of the then-sitting BOD solicited them, and that the then-new Wyndham Management Agreement would be up for renewal in 2019. Is that when Mr. Bone won a dispute against Wyndham?
 
Someone in Marriott's pocket.
Considering that many TUGgers (including me) are accused of being Developer "plants" and worse every time they see the Developer's side of any issue, I'd need to see actual proof of a board member being in Marriott's pocket before accepting it as fact at face value.
 
Considering that many TUGgers (including me) are accused of being Developer "plants" and worse every time they see the Developer's side of any issue, I'd need to see actual proof of a board member being in Marriott's pocket before accepting it as fact at face value.
There is a difference between being a Marriott enthusiast and being a Marriott employee (as stated by OP).

The latter is not independent, no matter what they may claim.
 
It shouldn't matter here what the Grand Residence Club-Tahoe owners have or don't have to help them communicate, because Timber Lodge is a completely separate resort from GRC-Tahoe with a completely separate BOD.

I'm also confused why you linked a 2017 article that doesn't at all say that Mr. Bone won a battle against a developer. It does say that Wyndham took over that previously-independent resort when members of the then-sitting BOD solicited them, and that the then-new Wyndham Management Agreement would be up for renewal in 2019. Is that when Mr. Bone won a dispute against Wyndham?

I completely agree with you. That was my mistake, thank you for identifying it. I was thinking Timber Lodge, but typed Grand Residence Club. I have corrected my error, in my original post.

Attorney Bone’s history at Olympic Village Inn is long and laudable (far more than I have an appetite to type, here). If I were at a resort that was subject to a hostile takeover by a developer, I’d retain Attorney Bone in a heartbeat, to guide an effort to prevent a hostile takeover, if that is the wish of the majority of unit owners/HOA members.
 
There is a difference between being a Marriott enthusiast and being a Marriott employee (as stated by OP).

The latter is not independent, no matter what they may claim.
Yes, but what kind of proof is there that the guy already on the board or the guy now running are Marriott employees?
 
Yes, but what kind of proof is there that the guy already on the board or the guy now running are Marriott employees?
OP tells us the candidate currently running is a Marriott employee (see post #1). OP is a major broker of points and units at this resort; you can do a search on TUG to verify this. I will therefore assume he knows much more than either of us about specific candidates.
 
Yes, but what kind of proof is there that the guy already on the board or the guy now running are Marriott employees?
The current Timber Lodge board president was also in the most recent GRC election. He was nominated to be on the ballot on behalf of the MVW land trust; he is not an owner; he is representing the interest of MVW = he is "in their pocket." There is no evidence he was a Timber Lodge owner and I suspect he was nominated and elected in the same fashion. He refuses to answer any questions regarding his interests. Though his previous bio professes to have served on multiple boards, he won't identify any of them. The current candidate for the upcoming Timber Lodge election openly states in his bio the he is an MVW employee.
 
The current Timber Lodge board president was also in the most recent GRC election. He was nominated to be on the ballot on behalf of the MVW land trust; he is not an owner; he is representing the interest of MVW = he is "in their pocket." There is no evidence he was a Timber Lodge owner and I suspect he was nominated and elected in the same fashion. He refuses to answer any questions regarding his interests. Though his previous bio professes to have served on multiple boards, he won't identify any of them. The current candidate for the upcoming Timber Lodge election openly states in his bio the he is an MVW employee.
Can you post the slate of nominees, here? I am particularly interested in reading the MVW’s employee’s bio, and understanding the scope of MVW’s reach.

FYI, the former President of the Shadow Ridge HOA Board, was Ron Essig, the longtime (now former) Vice President of Owner Services at MVC.
 
I reread this RedWeek article, below, which although not attributed to Jeff Weir, sure reads like Jeff Weir’s exceptional writings. I am struck by the remarkable accuracy of this article, and the extent that the article reflects the devious, anti-timeshare owner, behaviors of certain developers, and the need for timeshare owners to be informed, engaged, and attentive/suspect of these (developer) behaviors.

 
Can you post the slate of nominees, here? I am particularly interested in reading the MVW’s employee’s bio, and understanding the scope of MVW’s reach.

FYI, the former President of the Shadow Ridge HOA Board, was Ron Essig, the longtime (now former) Vice President of Owner Services at MVC.
 

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Good Lord, Jason King is following in Ron Essig’s footsteps (Essig, the former VP of Owner Services, and President of the Shadow Ridge HOA Board).

I wonder if Jason King is a Timber Lodge owner or points owner, or neither? Neither King, nor the person/people at MVC, who are allegedly managing this Call for Nominations/nominations process, explicitly state whether or not King has come forward as a nominee, as a Timber Lodge, or points owner, or at the direction of MVC/as an agent of MVC, and perhaps a non-owner. This calls to question, the integrity of the nominations process, and the competency, or incompetency of the person/people managing that process (under the alleged “watch” of the HOA Board).

If I were Jason King, given the deplorable performance of MVC Owner Services, and Jason King’s very distorted views of his accomplishments, and the infrastructure (hardly) that he alleges to have built, I’d be embarrassed to put my name out there, and come forward as a nominee to serve on the Timber Lodge HOA Board. Talk about Spin (or is it sin?) Selling!

Honestly, I can’t stop laughing about King’s claims of accomplishments.

One can only hope that the Timber Lodge owners are engaged and smart enough to vote in a manner that is in the best interests of the resort.
 
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Good Lord, Jason King is following in Ron Essig’s footsteps (Essig, the former VP of Owner Services, and President of the Shadow Ridge HOA Board).

I wonder if Jason King is a Timber Lodge owner or points owner, or neither?

If I were Jason King, given the deplorable performance of MVC Owner Services, and Jason King’s very distorted views of his accomplishments, and the infrastructure (hardly) that he alleges to have built, I’d be embarrassed to put my name out there, and come forward as a nominee to serve on the Timber Lodge HOA Board. Talk about Spin (or is it sin?) Selling!

In my opinion, Jason King should be shown to the door as VP of Owner Services. Honestly, I can’t stop laughing about King’s claims of accomplishments. Shame on him.

One can only hope that the Timber Lodge owners are engaged and smart enough to vote in a manner that is in the best interests of the resort.
Good Lord, Jason King is following in Ron Essig’s footsteps (Essig, the former VP of Owner Services, and President of the Shadow Ridge HOA Board).

I wonder if Jason King is a Timber Lodge owner or points owner, or neither?

If I were Jason King, given the deplorable performance of MVC Owner Services, and Jason King’s very distorted views of his accomplishments, and the infrastructure (hardly) that he alleges to have built, I’d be embarrassed to put my name out there, and come forward as a nominee to serve on the Timber Lodge HOA Board. Talk about Spin (or is it sin?) Selling!

In my opinion, Jason King should be shown to the door as VP of Owner Services. Honestly, I can’t stop laughing about King’s claims of accomplishments. Shame on him.

One can only hope that the Timber Lodge owners are engaged and smart enough to vote in a manner that is in the best interests of the resort.
Wouldn't Marriott owning time there qualify him?
 
Wouldn't Marriott owning time there qualify him?

You ask a good question. I clarified my point, above.

In my opinion, it depends if Jason King has come forward as a nominee, as a Timber Lodge owner, or points owner (I don’t know, are points owners eligible to sit on an HOA Board?), or if King has been directed to come forward as an agent of MVC/MVW. It is not clear if Jason King is an owner at Timber Lodge.

In my opinion, all of the above, calls the integrity of the HOA Board nominations process to question. All too reminiscent of the Red Week article, referenced above.
 
The current Timber Lodge board president was also in the most recent GRC election. He was nominated to be on the ballot on behalf of the MVW land trust; he is not an owner; he is representing the interest of MVW = he is "in their pocket." There is no evidence he was a Timber Lodge owner and I suspect he was nominated and elected in the same fashion. He refuses to answer any questions regarding his interests. Though his previous bio professes to have served on multiple boards, he won't identify any of them. The current candidate for the upcoming Timber Lodge election openly states in his bio the he is an MVW employee.
See my posts. Our building is in the same position. Dan Craig has no business being on the board of the MVC Trust and certainly no business being on the board of our building or any other. He is paid a "stipend" by the MVC Trust, which is the alter ego of the Management Company. The employees that MVW has had on our board in the past include: Nathan Guikema, Jim Marks, Stacey Jackson-Rauso, Charles Baron, Rance Ryan, and Ron Essig, just to name a few. Current MVW-beholden board members on our board (690 Market Street) are Stacey Jackson-Rauso and Dan Craig. Ray Corbin and Jim Marks both resigned in the past few weeks as things continue to get uglier at 690 Market Street in San Francisco.
 
See my posts. Our building is in the same position. Dan Craig has no business being on the board of the MVC Trust and certainly no business being on the board of our building or any other. He is paid a "stipend" by the MVC Trust, which is the alter ego of the Management Company. The employees that MVW has had on our board in the past include: Nathan Guikema, Jim Marks, Stacey Jackson-Rauso, Charles Baron, Rance Ryan, and Ron Essig, just to name a few. Current MVW-beholden board members on our board (690 Market Street) are Stacey Jackson-Rauso and Dan Craig. Ray Corbin and Jim Marks both resigned in the past few weeks as things continue to get uglier at 690 Market Street in San Francisco.

I’ve read your posts and agree entirely with your articulate, spot-on writings. I particularly like the fact that you see through MVC’s smoke and mirrors.

Shame on MVC to suggest that their hired hands have the resort/building in their best interests. The only thing that these character-compromised creatures have, in my opinion, is a willingness to sell their soul to the devil. Shame on the creatures, and MVC.
 
I reread this RedWeek article, below, which although not attributed to Jeff Weir, sure reads like Jeff Weir’s exceptional writings. I am struck by the remarkable accuracy of this article, and the extent that the article reflects the devious, anti-timeshare owner, behaviors of certain developers, and the need for timeshare owners to be informed, engaged, and attentive/suspect of these (developer) behaviors.

This is an excellent article. I did not read it in thorough detail, but I did not see it call out the biggest advantage to the developers of their plan to accumulate ownership in their alter ego trusts: Once they have sufficient ownership of any property via their alter ego trust, they can control the board of the property. The board of the property is charged with oversight of the managing agent, but when the board is comprised of employees of the managing agent, there is no oversight and it is open season for self-dealing. Such self-dealing is actionable, but once they control the board, all transparency is gone and owners can't even see the egregious self-dealing. Any questions by owners are ignored; BOD meeting minutes are opaque and slanted. Quite the business plan.
 
This is an excellent article. I did not read it in thorough detail, but I did not see it call out the biggest advantage to the developers of their plan to accumulate ownership in their alter ego trusts: Once they have sufficient ownership of any property via their alter ego trust, they can control the board of the property. The board of the property is charged with oversight of the managing agent, but when the board is comprised of employees of the managing agent, there is no oversight and it is open season for self-dealing. Such self-dealing is actionable, but once they control the board, all transparency is gone and owners can't even see the egregious self-dealing. Any questions by owners are ignored; BOD meeting minutes are opaque and slanted. Quite the business plan.

Well stated. I believe your conclusions are entirely accurate. I’ve seen several developers do precisely what you say.

As bad/evil as the developers are, their trade association, the American Resort Developers Association, is even worse. ARDA has Capital Hill wired; they even have a “front” of a coalition for timeshare/resort owners, the ARDA-Resort Owners Coalition (ARDA-ROC). ARDA and ARDA-ROC remind me of Bernie Madoff.

 
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I’ve read your posts and agree entirely with your articulate, spot-on writings. I particularly like the fact that you see through MVC’s smoke and mirrors.

Shame on MVC to suggest that their hired hands have the resort/building in their best interests. The only thing that these character-compromised creatures have, in my opinion, is a willingness to sell their soul to the devil. Shame on the creatures, and MVC.
The sad thing is that they don't give the hired hands enough information to even know what they are doing. I will credit a few of them that I have spoken to for getting out of the way once they realized they were being used by MVW. Nothing worse than realizing that you were misled into the "useful idiot" category. I know because I was misled into that category by MVW myself. Execs at MVW who were all charm for years became impossible to get a hold of once I started asking the questions that expose the wrondoing.
 
You ask a good question. I clarified my point, above.

In my opinion, it depends if Jason King has come forward as a nominee, as a Timber Lodge owner, or points owner (I don’t know, are points owners eligible to sit on an HOA Board?), or if King has been directed to come forward as an agent of MVC/MVW. It is not clear if Jason King is an owner at Timber Lodge.

In my opinion, all of the above, calls the integrity of the HOA Board nominations process to question. All too reminiscent of the Red Week article, referenced above.
Agree or disagree with the positives and negatives, I'd think that the Trust owning weeks there would be sufficient to nominate someone for the BOD. Also, I wonder if the management agreement gives them such an option as well.
 
Agree or disagree with the positives and negatives, I'd think that the Trust owning weeks there would be sufficient to nominate someone for the BOD. Also, I wonder if the management agreement gives them such an option as well.
The governing documents are key. Also, it appears that MVW in its role as the developer typically keeps at least one ownership interest so that it can run for the board as an owner. The salient issue is this: Regardless of how any director comes to any board of directors, each has a fiduciary duty to avoid self-dealing. This is virtually impossible for those who are employees of the managing agent. If you are both an owner and a vendor, the smart thing to do is recuse yourself from any decision involving both parties due to a conflict of interest; however, the decision to recuse is up to the director themself (barring any overriding specific provision in the governing documents).
 
Yes, but what kind of proof is there that the guy already on the board or the guy now running are Marriott employees?
How about the longstanding history of MVC, as evidence? Sue, you of all people claiming naivete is hard to digest. As if you do not know that MVC's long standing strategy for these resorts is to pack the board with MVC aligned people who are often MVC employees, to do their bidding. When they can't they threaten "brand quality" as a bludgeon.
 
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