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Summer Bay Desert Club?
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anne1125
TUG Member
According to Victor (mgr.) they will transfer reservations between August and November. We will be in by November 1st.
I recently had my Summer Bay dep. with RCI pulled out and it will be back in my acct. at the end of the week (as per RCI supervisor).
We can't go to Las Vegas next year. I'll be interested to see if RCI dep. my week as a 1 or 2 bedroom since I won the lottery and will have a 2 bedroom at the new location.
Hopefully we'll hear something official by mail in the near future.
Anne
I recently had my Summer Bay dep. with RCI pulled out and it will be back in my acct. at the end of the week (as per RCI supervisor).
We can't go to Las Vegas next year. I'll be interested to see if RCI dep. my week as a 1 or 2 bedroom since I won the lottery and will have a 2 bedroom at the new location.
Hopefully we'll hear something official by mail in the near future.
Anne
roadtriper
TUG Member
at least the silence is consistant! RT
We'll be staying at SBR the last 2 weeks of April. I have no intention of changing to points, but still agreed to take another tour on 4/20. Since we don't need accommodations, we will get a $75. Visa gift card instead. Will let you know how things are progressing when I can see for myself. 
janapur
TUG Member
I just spoke to Andrea in management (she's so great BTW). All units have been gutted and walls are getting their first coat of paint. She expects that we'll be placed in the new resort beginning in July! Seems early to me, but she said Harrahs is in a big hurry to get the land.
Check in and admininstration will take a bit longer, as they want to get the units done first. I don't care. I'll check in at a 7-11 if it means I'll be staying at the new resort.
Check in and admininstration will take a bit longer, as they want to get the units done first. I don't care. I'll check in at a 7-11 if it means I'll be staying at the new resort.
anne1125
TUG Member
Thanks Janapur, that's the first concrete statement I've heard about the new units.
Really wish we could go next year but I am surprised how much the airfare from Phila. is.
We deposited our week but it is still a 1 bedroom dep (even though we will be a 2 bedroom by the time this exchange happens in April of 2009). Oh well, we can't do anything about that.
I look forward to reading everything my fellow tuggers find out and experience about Summer Bay Desert Club over the next year or so.
Anne
Really wish we could go next year but I am surprised how much the airfare from Phila. is.
We deposited our week but it is still a 1 bedroom dep (even though we will be a 2 bedroom by the time this exchange happens in April of 2009). Oh well, we can't do anything about that.
I look forward to reading everything my fellow tuggers find out and experience about Summer Bay Desert Club over the next year or so.
Anne
stevedmatt
TUG Member
Anne, did you check airfare from AC? I think they may have stopped the direct flights, but their prices are usually very good.
anne1125
TUG Member
Steve, I just looked at Spirit's website and didn't see Las Vegas listed from AC. Is there another airline?
Anne
Anne
Art4th
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Southwest has flights for under $300 RT from PHL. You can probably do even better depending on when you want to go.
Art
stevedmatt
TUG Member
No, your not missing it. I missed it. I knew they stopped the direct flights, but since they also stopped the Detroit flight, you can't even get there with Spirit anymore.
This is very disappointing to me as I usually get to Vegas once a year and it has always been under $250 RT. Our last trip was only $110 RT.
Sorry to misinform you.
anne1125
TUG Member
According to the property mgr., Victor, it does. He said that it starts Nov. of this year.
Anne
Anne
bookworm
TUG Member
My husband has a trade into Summer Bay for Nov. 1. I am hoping he can be in a beautiful new unit. He is bringing some friends for a convention and I know it would be a great bonus if they could experience the new site (though I'm not hyping it yet - things can always be held up for one reason or another). I'll try to get him to bring back photos if I can...
EileenSRN
TUG Member
New configuration?
It seems like a year ago, there was a full description of how the trade was going to work. Pictures of the new layout, named sections - Fountains - comes to mind. I can't find it. Anyone point me in the right direction? I'm looking at ebay and thinking this will be close to last chance to get into this soon-to-be-great resort.
Eileen
It seems like a year ago, there was a full description of how the trade was going to work. Pictures of the new layout, named sections - Fountains - comes to mind. I can't find it. Anyone point me in the right direction? I'm looking at ebay and thinking this will be close to last chance to get into this soon-to-be-great resort.
Eileen
This site is in my favorites...hope it works for you. I am able to check out the new resort, floor plans, etc. My daughter is at Summer Bay now, and she was told the new resort will be ready by the end of July. :whoopie:
http://deedexchange.summerbayresort.com/IMI_1342_W1.html
http://deedexchange.summerbayresort.com/IMI_1342_W1.html
roadtriper
TUG Member
Newsleter
Well the Newsletter they have been promising finaly showed up today
Fancy 4 page Full Color Glossy Brochure type document. looks like the move is going to be done in "Phases" starting in Aug. and ending with a "Grand Opening" in Nov. The 2008 Owners meeting and HOA Board elections will be Sat June 21. Anyone wanting to run for the HOA Board has to have their Application(Bio) submitted to the Secretary by March 31st. ! (6 days)
And it looks like we get our own Desert Club Photo ID to gain access to the property?
I'm Very Glad to finaly have a newsletter ,and hope they continue with it as promised. I'd like to see more content and less "Glitz" I'd be curious to hear what other owners think! RT
Well the Newsletter they have been promising finaly showed up today
Fancy 4 page Full Color Glossy Brochure type document. looks like the move is going to be done in "Phases" starting in Aug. and ending with a "Grand Opening" in Nov. The 2008 Owners meeting and HOA Board elections will be Sat June 21. Anyone wanting to run for the HOA Board has to have their Application(Bio) submitted to the Secretary by March 31st. ! (6 days)
And it looks like we get our own Desert Club Photo ID to gain access to the property?
I'm Very Glad to finaly have a newsletter ,and hope they continue with it as promised. I'd like to see more content and less "Glitz" I'd be curious to hear what other owners think! RT
anne1125
TUG Member
Wow Bob that's good news. I didn't get a newsletter, hopefully soon.
So glad to hear an update. Thanks.
So glad to hear an update. Thanks.
Does anyone know for sure what happens to the deeds that have not been transferred to the new location?
Is it safe to buy an "old" unconverted resale Summer Bay week at this time?
Can it be converted to the new location or is there a deadline after which no exchanges to the new location are possible anymore?
Could it happen that after the purchase/closing process is completed some deadline has passed and deeds can not be exchanged to the new resort anymore and are practically worthless?
Thanks for any insight!
Is it safe to buy an "old" unconverted resale Summer Bay week at this time?
Can it be converted to the new location or is there a deadline after which no exchanges to the new location are possible anymore?
Could it happen that after the purchase/closing process is completed some deadline has passed and deeds can not be exchanged to the new resort anymore and are practically worthless?
Thanks for any insight!
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roadtriper
TUG Member
ASK before you buy
Wow, that is a very good question! I don't think it has been answered to anyones satisfaction. Here are MY assumptions. if someone is wanting to sell or get rid of their interval at Summer Bay Las Vegas, they would have no reason to NOT do the deed transfer as it cost's them nothing and is just a matter of paperwork. and the new resort would seem to hold more value than the old resort! the folks who were holding out on purpose felt that they owned a piece of Valuable Las Vegas "Land" and are probably still waiting for their "windfall" and aren't activley trying to sell their interval. and there are bound to be a small % of folks who just "Have no Clue" don't know what they own and don't know what they are trying to sell. The safe Bet is to ASK the Question of the seller! "Has this deed been submitted for transfer to the new resort?" I can't Imagine that the resort Could/or Would abandon any owner/ deed who/that was current on their Maint fees, they would be pushing for them to transfer into the new property. if a owner/interval is Delinquent then all bet's are off! the Easy path for them would be to forclose the interval. Worst case senario... most of the Timeshare resellers, even the ones that draw a lot of contraversy will refund your money if a deal goes south. Again these are MY opinions/assumptions RT
Wow, that is a very good question! I don't think it has been answered to anyones satisfaction. Here are MY assumptions. if someone is wanting to sell or get rid of their interval at Summer Bay Las Vegas, they would have no reason to NOT do the deed transfer as it cost's them nothing and is just a matter of paperwork. and the new resort would seem to hold more value than the old resort! the folks who were holding out on purpose felt that they owned a piece of Valuable Las Vegas "Land" and are probably still waiting for their "windfall" and aren't activley trying to sell their interval. and there are bound to be a small % of folks who just "Have no Clue" don't know what they own and don't know what they are trying to sell. The safe Bet is to ASK the Question of the seller! "Has this deed been submitted for transfer to the new resort?" I can't Imagine that the resort Could/or Would abandon any owner/ deed who/that was current on their Maint fees, they would be pushing for them to transfer into the new property. if a owner/interval is Delinquent then all bet's are off! the Easy path for them would be to forclose the interval. Worst case senario... most of the Timeshare resellers, even the ones that draw a lot of contraversy will refund your money if a deal goes south. Again these are MY opinions/assumptions RT
I also thought that noone could sell his "old" deed now if he is not totally out of his mind.
But if it is a postcard company this could be different.
They have no clue or can not make their victim to transfer the deed to the new resort without the victim realizing he made a big mistake.
But if it is a postcard company this could be different.
They have no clue or can not make their victim to transfer the deed to the new resort without the victim realizing he made a big mistake.
EileenSRN
TUG Member
I think I'm glad I decided not to bid on the Bankruptcy unit on ebay last week. I did try to get some info from Summer Bay in LV, but they wouldn't tell me anything. I never thought to ask if a deed to the oul resort was still valid.
Thanks for the heads up! I hope it goes well for the person who did buy it? Maybe they were sharper than I and knew they were OK.
Eileen
Thanks for the heads up! I hope it goes well for the person who did buy it? Maybe they were sharper than I and knew they were OK.
Eileen
roadtriper
TUG Member
I didn't mean to imply it wasn't safe to buy a resale right now. it's just April and the final move isn't planned till Nov. and no deadlines have been set that I know of. as a matter of fact I'm sure the resort would love to get the untransfered deeds to surface. I would'nt hesitate for a moment to purchase a Summer bay resale. as long as you do your due diligance and make sure all the fees are current. but that holds true for any timeshare purchase. RT
EileenSRN
TUG Member
Gee, thanks, RT! Guess we should have grabbed that one. Hubby and I have been talking all winter about whether to buy another week - out west this time. We've been watching tons of Summer Bay, Polo Towers, Peace Canyon, LV and Vista Mirage, Desert Breezes in PS. Finally decided to go for it! And they all dried up! I was going to start a thread "When are you too old to buy more weeks?". Maybe this is telling me something. We retire in 18 months. What do you guys think of the Consolidated group (Thaiti, Tahiti Village and Club De Soliel)?
Eileen
Eileen
The "developer" has what he needed:
Get approval by a super-majority of the owners for the move, so that the "developer" can get the surplus units and make a lot of money on these.
Why should they give a non-cooperating owner - who has just ignored what they sent him regarding the deed exchange for months - now still the good deal of a new deed at the new resort?
They are just not dependent anymore on these few people who have not already transfered!
This investment opportunity / gamble has unfortunately passed.
I would never touch an old Summer Bay deed at this time.
Get approval by a super-majority of the owners for the move, so that the "developer" can get the surplus units and make a lot of money on these.
Why should they give a non-cooperating owner - who has just ignored what they sent him regarding the deed exchange for months - now still the good deal of a new deed at the new resort?
They are just not dependent anymore on these few people who have not already transfered!
This investment opportunity / gamble has unfortunately passed.
I would never touch an old Summer Bay deed at this time.
The new deeds mirror the old ones
The resort/developer has no right to simply "kill" a deed. If the owner had a deed at the old property and the minimum number of owners approved the deal to make a switch of resorts - which apparently happened - that "old" deed has a counterpart at the new resort even if it wasn't transferred but assuming the owner kept the fees up to date. The only way the deeded property could be returned to the resort is through foreclosure - not because the physical property was transferred from one site to another.
I do wonder what happened to those few that felt the deal was not good and refused to take part. I wonder if now they plan to deed back their ownership (assuming SB allows that) or if they "will live" with the deeded ownership being based at a new resort. They lost the battle but they still hold a valid deed unless they made a move to give it up or sell it.
The resort/developer has no right to simply "kill" a deed. If the owner had a deed at the old property and the minimum number of owners approved the deal to make a switch of resorts - which apparently happened - that "old" deed has a counterpart at the new resort even if it wasn't transferred but assuming the owner kept the fees up to date. The only way the deeded property could be returned to the resort is through foreclosure - not because the physical property was transferred from one site to another.
I do wonder what happened to those few that felt the deal was not good and refused to take part. I wonder if now they plan to deed back their ownership (assuming SB allows that) or if they "will live" with the deeded ownership being based at a new resort. They lost the battle but they still hold a valid deed unless they made a move to give it up or sell it.