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Shell points are supposed to be a separate entity from Wyndham and people do not understand the difference

rickandcindy23

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I have an ad on TUG and RW, hoping to give away Shell points. These points have always worked for me and get great inventory in locations you couldn't get anywhere other than Shell. Little Sweden in Door County is abundant for times of year you would want to be there. Now Wyndham owners can get Vino Bello and Peacock Suites and Legacy Golf, etc. People are confusing Wyndham with Shell.

I am getting inquiries from prospects with comments about the maintenance fees being high for that number of points. This is not Wyndham. 25,300 points in Shell is a lot of points. You cannot compare the two. It takes around 130,000 points to book a week in a studio at Vino Bello with Wyndham. It takes only 3,250 points during peak season with Shell. Fees are only .34 per point, making a studio $1,100 for a full week in Napa Valley. That is an incredible deal for Vino Bello. It's really nice, and no hotel is going to cost $1,100 for a full week.

Someone is interested in a small number of points, she owns Shell already, and I told her Wyndham now uses Docusign for the transfer of points, and I am happy to pay the transfer fee. She says she doesn't want Wyndham, she wants Shell. It's 2,500 points. This is not Wyndham but is managed by Wyndham. She is afraid I am giving away Wyndham. No, Wyndham doesn't even sell 2,500 points.

I wish Wyndham would take these Shell points back. I will call and ask after the holidays. Owning Shell and Wyndham is redundant.

I actually think if someone took the entire 25,300 points, Wyndham would make an offer and the new owners would be instant VIP Platinum with a small purchase, or maybe corporate does it without a purchase? Does anyone know? I know it's 40 X 25,300 points conversion rate. And if they let you PIC a couple of 3 bedrooms at Twin Rivers with MF's of $1,100 per week, you could get VIP Founder's. level. That would add 508,000 points to the total. Someone here on TUG was giving away a Twin Rivers 3 bedroom summer week.

The transfer fees for 4 contracts is $700. I paid that fee already for a deal that fell through because one person didn't sign the Docusign. Those were 4 of the bigger contracts. I have a bunch of little ones left, all adding up to 25,300 points.

Is the Shell points product going to become an antiquated product in the timeshare world?
 
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Does Shell exchange only with RCI now or do they allow you to exchange with Interval International ?
 
Does Shell exchange only with RCI now or do they allow you to exchange with Interval International ?
Only RCI now, since Wyndham's takeover.

I see some bargains with Shell using a 1 bedroom deposit in RCI. For example, anything 1 bedroom through RCI, red season with Shell, 2,500 points. So I can book Wyndham and Hilton in Honolulu or NYC for 2,500 points X .34 per point + exchange fee, way cheaper than I can book the same things through my weeks account. $850 + $299 exchange fee is pretty cheap. Of course Hilton has additional fees, but I pay those additional fees no matter which account I use. Wyndham doesn't charge additional fees. They only charge the TAT fees or taxes they have to charge to owners. It's a good deal for 1 bedrooms. I have done well with that on occasion.

I was getting Disney 1 bedrooms pretty cheaply as well. If Disney goes back to RCI, that would be a good way to use the points, but it won't happen for at least 10 more years, if they go back at all.

The two bedrooms are not a great deal with Shell via exchange. That's a bit disappointing, but there are only two of us, so one bedrooms work great.
 
How far out can you make reservations with Shell points?
One year ahead, but it's rarely necessary. I see inventory at 10 months.
 
Turns out that everyone signed the document and Wyndham voided the transfer. We paid $700 to transfer 4 certificates and Wyndham didn't follow through and didn't refund $700 either.

Wyndham is the WORST COMPANY!

I have someone else who wants to take a Shell West Club 2,500 certificate. I hesitate to even attempt it.

Shell used to be easy to do a transfer, and they have resorts other companies don't have. If only Shell would allow us to transfer without cancelling the process with no explanation as to why.
 
Turns out that everyone signed the document and Wyndham voided the transfer. We paid $700 to transfer 4 certificates and Wyndham didn't follow through and didn't refund $700 either.

Wyndham is the WORST COMPANY!

I have someone else who wants to take a Shell West Club 2,500 certificate. I hesitate to even attempt it.

Shell used to be easy to do a transfer, and they have resorts other companies don't have. If only Shell would allow us to transfer without cancelling the process with no explanation as to why.

File Theft Report. it could be a Felony or Misdemeanor.
 
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