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Shaving one night off a reservation

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I'm terrified to call and shave one night off of a reservation at the Surf Club. How "safe" is the transaction on the phone? I am so paranoid to lose the whole reservation! I'm ok to lose the points for that one night, but it would be nice to keep them! Thank you in advance for your feedback!
 

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I've done this many times without losing the desired, retained nights. but I prefer to use the online chat so the request is in writing and less chance of a mistake being made. Some times it has taken a long time (up to an hour), as the chat agent has to wait for the modifications team to become available. I just multitask while waiting. Also, you'll want to make sure to see the modified reservation and to confirm that the correct number of points has been returned to your account before ending the chat. If the original reservation was made with a 25% or 30% discount, in my experience, the modifications team may not calculate that in determining the number of points to be returned to my account, so I always ask the online chat agent in advance to remind the modifications team that the reservation was made with a discount and that X number of points should be returned to may account.
 
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I've done this many times without losing the desired, retained nights. but I prefer to use the online chat so the request is in writing and less chance of a mistake being made. Some times it has taken a long time (up to an hour), as the chat agent has to wait for the modifications team to become available. I just multitask while waiting. Also, you'll want to make sure to see the modified reservation and to confirm that the correct number of points has been returned to your account before ending the chat. If the original reservation was made with a 25% or 30% discount, in my experience, the modifications team may not calculate that in determining the number of points to be returned to my account, so I always ask the online chat agent in advance to remind the modifications team that the reservation was made with a discount and that X number of points should be returned to may account.
How do you get ressies with a 25% discount?
Thank you for the Chat recommendation! I am feeling much better about attempting this change!
 

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How do you get ressies with a 25% discount?
Thank you for the Chat recommendation! I am feeling much better about attempting this change!
I think they are talking about reservations made within 60 days of arrival, which can usually be booked at a significant points discount.
 

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I think they are talking about reservations made within 60 days of arrival, which can usually be booked at a significant points discount.
For Presidential level owners and above. Executive gets a discount too, but at 30 days.
 

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About this - a sales rep recently told me as presidential I would be able to call Marriott at 60 days and ask for 30% of points back for club point reservations and I just looked at him like I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works. Someone please tell me I’m not the crazy one.
 

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About this - a sales rep recently told me as presidential I would be able to call Marriott at 60 days and ask for 30% of points back for club point reservations and I just looked at him like I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works. Someone please tell me I’m not the crazy one.
It does not work that way. I understand they will only do so if those same exact dates, room and view type are separately available for booking, in which case the "extra" points go into a holding account as they are now within the 60-day period. Otherwise, you have to cancel and rebook, but run the risk of losing those dates to a a waitlist or someone who happens to see them become available and is able to grab them before you.
 

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It does not work that way. I understand they will only do so if those same exact dates, room and view type are separately available for booking, in which case the "extra" points go into a holding account as they are now within the 60-day period. Otherwise, you have to cancel and rebook, but run the risk of losing those dates to a a waitlist or someone who happens to see them become available and is able to grab them before you.
Thank you- this is how I figured it worked and makes way more sense.
 

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I've done this many times without losing the desired, retained nights. but I prefer to use the online chat so the request is in writing and less chance of a mistake being made. Some times it has taken a long time (up to an hour), as the chat agent has to wait for the modifications team to become available. I just multitask while waiting. Also, you'll want to make sure to see the modified reservation and to confirm that the correct number of points has been returned to your account before ending the chat. If the original reservation was made with a 25% or 30% discount, in my experience, the modifications team may not calculate that in determining the number of points to be returned to my account, so I always ask the online chat agent in advance to remind the modifications team that the reservation was made with a discount and that X number of points should be returned to may account.
I've had similarly successful modifications. The other thing - if your reservation was made with points coming from different buckets, you should be clear about which points you want returned to your account. For example, if the reservation had a combination of banked and current use year points, you would want to return / save the current use year points that could (in most cases) later be banked to future years. For some reason, their default always seems to be to consume points with the earliest expiration without regard to the potential to bank those points.
 

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I've had similarly successful modifications. The other thing - if your reservation was made with points coming from different buckets, you should be clear about which points you want returned to your account. For example, if the reservation had a combination of banked and current use year points, you would want to return / save the current use year points that could (in most cases) later be banked to future years. For some reason, their default always seems to be to consume points with the earliest expiration without regard to the potential to bank those points.
I've found the guides are usually pretty good at this but it is a good idea to be absolutely clear. The website does this universally when reserving then I have to have them reallocate the points later. I'm not spending my time trying to micromanage this issue while trying to book high demand reservations.

If holding account points though would it matter which bucket they came from?
 

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I've found the guides are usually pretty good at this but it is a good idea to be absolutely clear. The website does this universally when reserving then I have to have them reallocate the points later. I'm not spending my time trying to micromanage this issue while trying to book high demand reservations.

If holding account points though would it matter which bucket they came from?
I was speaking generically about shaving a day off a reservation outside the no-penalty window. I have had them reallocate points in a way that was detrimental to my best interest, per the example given, and have had to make an annoying follow-up call to reallocate points. Not a huge deal, but a frustrating second call to make.

But if the returned points are going into a holding account, isn't it even more important to be sure they pull out the right ones? AFAIK, they cannot make changes once points are paced in the holding account.
 

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I was speaking generically about shaving a day off a reservation outside the no-penalty window. I have had them reallocate points in a way that was detrimental to my best interest, per the example given, and have had to make an annoying follow-up call to reallocate points. Not a huge deal, but a frustrating second call to make.

But if the returned points are going into a holding account, isn't it even more important to be sure they pull out the right ones? AFAIK, they cannot make changes once points are paced in the holding account.
Things happen and it is important to trust but verify. As I stated, I find the reps are generally excellent in this area. As for holding account I don't think it makes any difference but I try to stay out of that situation if I can.
 

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I was speaking generically about shaving a day off a reservation outside the no-penalty window. I have had them reallocate points in a way that was detrimental to my best interest, per the example given, and have had to make an annoying follow-up call to reallocate points. Not a huge deal, but a frustrating second call to make.
Is it possible they were put into a holding account because the change was shortening a reservation to something that would not have been permitted at the time you made the reservation based on the booking windows. Example, Select Owner with a 7 night reservation made at 12 months changing it to a 6 night reservation at 6 months. Those points should go into Holding.
 

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Is it possible they were put into a holding account because the change was shortening a reservation to something that would not have been permitted at the time you made the reservation based on the booking windows. Example, Select Owner with a 7 night reservation made at 12 months changing it to a 6 night reservation at 6 months. Those points should go into Holding.
Sorry, I was mixing two different scenarios. For a shortened cancellation inside the 60-day window, where the points go into a holding account, it is important to verify they will be moving the desired points if the reservation was made from combinations of use year and banked. Once these points are moved into a holding account, I don't believe they can be reallocated.

For cancellations outside the 60-day window, the reservation points can be re-allocated later, but through another call to OS.
 
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