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Sale of the resort

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Hello,
I am new to the forum. I am reaching out to see if anybody has has a similar experience were the resort is getting sold due to financial difficulties?
It got my by surprise that we have to sell it and I am suspicious about the way it's handled or better said the way we got there.

Did any other resort have similar issues? Thank you in advance.
 
You are more likely to get an informed reply if you identify both the resort and the management company.
 
This is not common, but not that rare---particularly at older, independent, highly-seasonal resorts. Over time, owner defaults go up, and the remaining owners would have to pay fees higher than rental value to continue to use the resort. At that point, the resort has failed and selling is the right thing to do.
 
We are going through this right now. The owners voted for the sale. This is at San Diego Country Estates in Ramona, CA.
 
Count your blessings. You should get some sort of remuneration. It is an easy way to get rid of a timeshare, which everyone has to do at some point.
 
Hello,
I am new to the forum. I am reaching out to see if anybody has has a similar experience were the resort is getting sold due to financial difficulties?
It got my by surprise that we have to sell it and I am suspicious about the way it's handled or better said the way we got there.

Did any other resort have similar issues? Thank you in advance.

In the handful of independent resorts with whose governing documents I am personally familiar, there is a separate and specific "termination" section or chapter. Owners must agree (by vote by a specified majority or percentage) to terminate the timeshare plan and proceed to "partition" in order for the property to be sold.

Were you as an owner never asked to vote on this matter? Sale of a timeshare property should not come as a "complete surprise" to its' owners. :ponder::shrug::ponder:
 
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Hello,
I am new to the forum. I am reaching out to see if anybody has has a similar experience were the resort is getting sold due to financial difficulties?
It got my by surprise that we have to sell it and I am suspicious about the way it's handled or better said the way we got there.

Did any other resort have similar issues? Thank you in advance.
It might help us to understand your situation if you simply post a copy of the notification you got. Feel free to redact your private identifying information for your own security. When similar situations have come up, as others have stated, it isn't much of a surprise, and the termination of a property as a timeshare generally results in owners of intervals there receiving an apportioned share of the sales proceeds.

Jim
 
The OP owns at the same resort i do. We received an email stating the options, dissolve completely or sell off some of the buildings. We were asked to vote. The results were that the majority of owners needed voted to dissolve. We are supposed to see some money, probably more than if we tried to sell. We voted to dissolve. Once this is completed, and they are estimating one to two years, I will cancel my RCI membership.
 
I'm not really sad. We have owned since 1974 and only use it for trading. Our travels have cut back as we've gotten older. It will be nice to not have the maintenance fees.
 
It might help us to understand your situation if you simply post a copy of the notification you got. Feel free to redact your private identifying information for your own security. When similar situations have come up, as others have stated, it isn't much of a surprise, and the termination of a property as a timeshare generally results in owners of intervals there receiving an apportioned share of the sales proceeds.

Jim
Just to provide more information. This is the email we received notifying us of the decision to sell. As I said before we received a previous email with the choice and a request to vote.

A Letter from Your Board of Directors to all Members of the San Diego Country Estates Timeshare Owners Association



The Future of The Good Life Resort


On March 14th, 2025, your Board of Directors met for the regularly scheduled quarterly Board meeting. We also reviewed the results of the Survey on Owner preferences between the only two viable options for the future of the resort.

We received survey responses from 25.7% of all Owners, who hold 31.2% of the total owned timeshare intervals or 36.7% of the intervals in Good Standing.

The results showed that 84.5% of Owner responses, representing 85.5% of the total owned intervals, chose Option #1 – to dissolve the Association and sell all the resort property.

Although the Board initially intended to keep the survey open longer, we have determined that any additional responses are highly unlikely to impact the overwhelming results received so far.

Accordingly, your Board of Directors unanimously adopted the motion:

Moved that the Board of Directors engage Grand Pacific Resorts for Dissolution Services and to organize an Owner vote to dissolve the Declaration of CC&Rs of the Association, according to Section 8.4 of the Declaration, subject to further legal advice by our Attorney. And further that the Board appoint Pat Hanna, Board President, to be the primary point of contact on this matter with Grand Pacific Resorts.

We recognize that our Owners will have many questions about what comes next, including how long the resort will remain open, the requirements for ongoing maintenance fee payments, and the next steps in the process. We have begun addressing these issues, along with other matters related to the dissolution process, in consultation with Grand Pacific Resorts and your Association’s new HOA attorney in San Diego.

Your Association will be incurring significant new costs to implement the dissolution and collect back all the outstanding owned timeshare intervals. These costs were both anticipated and included in the forecast of an eventual payout of between $5000 and $10,000 per owned timeshare interval (less any individual arrears outstanding).

Although we have secured additional interim financing for the dissolution project, this financing comes at a cost, reducing the eventual payout for all participating Owners. As a result, Owners who wish to fully participate in the final payout will be expected to continue paying their quarterly maintenance fees until a cutoff date, which has yet to be determined.

We also want to inform you of our plan to generate additional revenue by expanding the availability of longer-term rentals for resort suites. This initiative will primarily target temporary employee relocation housing and temporary project workforce housing, both of which require furnished accommodations but involve lower housekeeping efforts and costs compared to short-term rentals. To minimize disruptions for timeshare owners and short-term vacation rental guests, we will strive to allocate longer-term rentals to specific buildings.

The next major step in the dissolution process will be a legally required vote, which must receive approval from 75% of the “voting rights” in the Association. While our governing documents define “voting rights,” we intend to seek a legal opinion to clarify which timeshare intervals are eligible to vote. This includes determining the voting rights of intervals held in the Association’s inventory and those considered to be in arrears. Preparing for this vote will take time, and we will provide further updates as the process progresses. Currently, we anticipate being ready to hold the vote no earlier than September 2025.

Your Board of Directors thanks you for participating in the survey and we are committed to providing additional information and answers to frequently asked questions as decisions are made throughout the dissolution process.

Comments and Questions:


Your comments and questions are always welcome. To ensure all Board Members receive your messages, we have implemented a new email address that automatically distributes messages to the entire Board. [I deleted the email address]
 
A resort in the Netherlands where I once owned a summer week that was a tiger trader with a low m/f voted to dissolve and sell its assets. It was organized as a cooperative so the process was a lot easier than a deeded resort. The reason to dissovle was that the board members were getting old and did not want to serve any more and no one would step forward to take their place. It was a shame it went that way. The resort was in very sound financial shape and we received a nice check for our week. I was working full time in Europe myself at the time, and would have considered volunteering if I could speak Dutch.
 
The OP owns at the same resort i do. We received an email stating the options, dissolve completely or sell off some of the buildings. We were asked to vote. The results were that the majority of owners needed voted to dissolve. We are supposed to see some money, probably more than if we tried to sell. We voted to dissolve. Once this is completed, and they are estimating one to two years, I will cancel my RCI membership.

The process you describe, although unfortunate, makes perfect sense procedurally. The OP seemed to be unaware of the customary and usual voting part of such dissolutions — including at their own resort. :ponder:
 
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Hi, I own at the same resort San Diego County Estates. I did receive the email and voted. However I did not receive other emails since the new board took over. Which is odd but that's what it is. FYI we have 1600 intervals in total but the email did only reach a few people so I would not say the "majority" voted. Therefore, how good of a result did we actually get? I think this is way more complex and I am waiting to hear back from the president of the board.
My initial question was more about resort sales or maybe a hostile takeover? Did anybody experience something like this before?
 
This sounds like a garden variety resort failure, where the options were: (a) try to consolidate a shrinking owner base into fewer buildings and sell the remainder, or (b) sell the entire thing. There was a plurality opinion to sell the entire thing.

If you really do get ~$5K per owned week, this is a huge windfall. If it continued as a timeshare, you would never get even 10% of that---and you'd probably have to pay to get rid of it. If you still want to be involved in timesharing, take the proceeds, buy something else (resale!) and enjoy the thousands of dollars you will have left over.
 
Hi, I own at the same resort San Diego County Estates. I did receive the email and voted. However I did not receive other emails since the new board took over. Which is odd but that's what it is. FYI we have 1600 intervals in total but the email did only reach a few people so I would not say the "majority" voted. Therefore, how good of a result did we actually get? I think this is way more complex and I am waiting to hear back from the president of the board.
My initial question was more about resort sales or maybe a hostile takeover? Did anybody experience something like this before?
In the first email we got, which outlined the choices and asked us to vote this information was included:

"It has been three months since your new Board of Directors was elected on November 11, 2024. For some of you, this might be the first communication you have received from your new Board – although three previous messages were sent in November and December.

If you were not receiving our emails, it might have been due to outdated or incorrect email addresses, messages being diverted to Spam or Junk folders, or the settings of your Communication Preferences. For this important message we are overriding any Communications Preferences set to block SDCE Owner Email Communications. To stay informed, we encourage you to check and update your Communication Preferences using the “Manage Preferences” link at the bottom of this, or any email you received from us. You may also contact Owner Services at (888) 477-6967 to check that your email address is recorded correctly. We suggest that you also confirm you are to Subscribed to SDCE Promotional Emails (for the Newsletters) and SDCE Owner Email Communications. "
 
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