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Resort lawn service using gas powered trimmers and blowers

lgreenspan

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I am sitting in my unit at Mizner place right now listening for the last hour maintenance running a gas powered blower . Do any TUG members sit on resort boards and have you ever discussed switching to battery powered equipment that would greatly reduce this noise?
 
Not on a board, but I’d expect that they use the least expensive lawn service that delivers good work, without wanting to add limits about type of equipment. I do agree that those blowers are really annoying!
 
HOA, contract lawn service to the best price and to local recommendations. I feel the majority of lawn services contractors in our area still used gas blowers and edgers.

The only problem with using all commercials battery charging equipment is keeping all the battery equipment fully charge for an eight hour work day. IMHO.

The Commonwealth of Virginia is not as strict as some states about using gas lawn commercial equipment. However, there are some senior citizen communities that restrict the use of gas lawn equipment. Also, the hours that they can used lawn equipment (liked 8am-4:00pm Monday-Saturday’s ). No Sunday’s lawn business in most communities are allowed.
 
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HOA, contract lawn service to the best price and to local recommendations. I feel the majority of lawn services contractors in our area still used gas blowers and edgers.

The only problem with using all commercials battery charging equipment is keeping all the battery equipment fully charge for an eight hour work day. IMHO.
Yeah, these companies have made capital investments and/or taken out loans to purchase this equipment. It needs to be fully used to realize the ROI.

I have seen commercial systems with a large battery in the trailer to charge removable LiIon batteries for mowers, blowers and trimmers. The main battery then charges overnight.
 
I am sitting in my unit at Mizner place right now listening for the last hour maintenance running a gas powered blower . Do any TUG members sit on resort boards and have you ever discussed switching to battery powered equipment that would greatly reduce this noise?
For the landscaping contractor, it's a choice between more powerful gas-powered landscaping equipment and less powerful electric (i.e., battery powered) landscaping equipment.

If 100% of their work would be beautifully maintained resort landscaping that just needed a touch-up from time to time, they'd be fine with battery-powered equipment. But, on occasion, they're going to get a job that may involve a jungle of yearslong overgrown vegetation. Eight foot high sticker bushes (known as "burdock" which the Japanese covet for their roots as a delectable food), ten foot high pokeberry bushes (whose leaves are eaten in Appalachia after boiling them three times to leach out the poison), bramble bushes of all descriptions. They're going to probably need a big brush cutter unit (think snowblower) and also brush cutter attachments for their weed whackers. As well as gas-powered chainsaws.

Alternatively for the latter big landscaping job you bring in a group of goats who will chow down on everything! :)

https://www.alleghenygoatscape.org/

In short, most contractors willl prefer getting one set of gas-powered equipment rather than two sets, gas and battery. But they will, of course, buy the battery in addition to the gas if you, as a client, insist upon it. Maybe they'll just plan on a day of touch-up maintenance involving "silent" battery-powered equipment if enough "regular maintenance" clients state their preference for it.
 
I am sitting in my unit at Mizner place right now listening for the last hour maintenance running a gas powered blower . Do any TUG members sit on resort boards and have you ever discussed switching to battery powered equipment that would greatly reduce this noise?
By the way, how is Mizner now that it, along with sister Weston resorts, VV Weston and VV Bonaventure, have been acquired by Vacatia? Someone came onto TUG and said something about VV Bonaventure's pool water being green and that it looked like Vacatia was deliberately trying to get owners at that resort to default.
 
We have stayed at Mizner the last 7 years and I have noticed some areas where service seems to have slipped a little. Mostly small stuff like missing some towels in the room , lack of paper supplies in room. We complained about our tile floor not being clean enough. Nothing so bad that we would not come back but it does seem like the new owners are cutting corners. They were quick to resolve all our concerns but I don't like having to spend the first day of my vacation resolving these issues.
 
We have stayed at Mizner the last 7 years and I have noticed some areas where service seems to have slipped a little. Mostly small stuff like missing some towels in the room , lack of paper supplies in room. We complained about our tile floor not being clean enough. Nothing so bad that we would not come back but it does seem like the new owners are cutting corners. They were quick to resolve all our concerns but I don't like having to spend the first day of my vacation resolving these issues.
Mizner sounds OK then. I'm assuming you didn't encounter green pool water.

If you hear anything about Bonaventure or VV Weston, however, I'd like to know. I have for the most part visited Mizner and VV Weston over the years but I passed on an opportunity to stay at Bonaventure this year due to what appeared here on TUG.
 
I did an AI search:
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how many minutes of run time can a typical battery-powered blower get?

A typical battery-powered leaf blower provides
15 to 45 minutes of runtime on a single charge. This duration varies significantly based on the power setting; using "Turbo" or high-speed modes often reduces runtime to just 10–15 minutes, while low or "Eco" modes can extend it to 60–90 minutes or more.
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So, a worker might need a box of fresh batteries to do a day's work. Also, running batteries from full charge to dead will shorten the life of the batteries. I don't know by how much, but I suppose that a battery might only last a year. So that would result in a box of batteries going into the recycle bin annually. For a home owner, a battery powered blower probably makes sense but for a gardener I'm not sure.... (just my personal opinion)
 
We stay at Hono Koa 3 weeks a year, 2 days a week are mowing and blowing. Paradise IS noisy for a few hours a week.

Our friends always joke about the noise in paradise.
 
I did an AI search:
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how many minutes of run time can a typical battery-powered blower get?

A typical battery-powered leaf blower provides
15 to 45 minutes of runtime on a single charge. This duration varies significantly based on the power setting; using "Turbo" or high-speed modes often reduces runtime to just 10–15 minutes, while low or "Eco" modes can extend it to 60–90 minutes or more.
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So, a worker might need a box of fresh batteries to do a day's work. Also, running batteries from full charge to dead will shorten the life of the batteries. I don't know by how much, but I suppose that a battery might only last a year. So that would result in a box of batteries going into the recycle bin annually. For a home owner, a battery powered blower probably makes sense but for a gardener I'm not sure.... (just my personal opinion)

Boosting Your Business: Insider Strategies to Outfit Trailers for Battery-Power Operations:​


The experience with Li Ion batteries in EV's have shown that they are lasting up to 40% longer than expected:


This means that a professional would pay attention to temperature and charge cycling to maximize the investment in their battery inventory.
 
I am sitting in my unit at Mizner place right now listening for the last hour maintenance running a gas powered blower . Do any TUG members sit on resort boards and have you ever discussed switching to battery powered equipment that would greatly reduce this noise?


Not a resort board member but I own an electric blower

Still some noise but not as much as the gas powered blowers
 
Not a resort board member but I own an electric blower

Still some noise but not as much as the gas powered blowers
I think Carolinian prefers the gas ones buddy. 😭
 
I personally own a Green works 80 Volt blower that is just as powerful as my old gas blower and it runs 25 minutes on a 2 amp battery. I do not think it would be unreasonable for a lawn service company to make the investment if it was needed to secure a contract with a resort .
 
I personally own a Green works 80 Volt blower that is just as powerful as my old gas blower and it runs 25 minutes on a 2 amp battery. I do not think it would be unreasonable for a lawn service company to make the investment if it was needed to secure a contract with a resort .
When I have a client who insists on some unique requirement (for me, it usually means they have insurance requirements that are above and beyond generally provided coverages), that added cost is then added to my fees for their project. I won't spread that cost back to other clients who are not requiring that coverage. That is a point of my personal business ethics. If that causes that client to not use my services, that's fine with me. If they don't expect to pay for what they are demanding, then I'm happy to not have them as a client.
 
I personally own a Green works 80 Volt blower that is just as powerful as my old gas blower and it runs 25 minutes on a 2 amp battery. I do not think it would be unreasonable for a lawn service company to make the investment if it was needed to secure a contract with a resort .
Yes. But please recognize that an "80 volt" is an enormous amount of battery power for a handheld landscaping tool. And it's no surprise it's a blower as that's the one gas-powered tool that is designed to put out a minimum of power. In other words, the gas-powered tools you're comparing it to are designed to not "blow" at super high power.

Why would they design gas-powered blowers to not blow too powerfully? Because no one wants their blower, when they're trying to blow leaves into a pile, to instead explosively blow the leaves all over the yard when you're ten yards away from the pile.

So you're comparing the the most powerful battery-powered blower to a gas-powered tool that is "suppressed" (so to speak) to not blow too powerfully. And yeah, under those circumstances, blowing output will indeed appear to be the same.

Now let's compare a gas-powered lawnmower to a battery-powered lawnmower. The battery-powered lawnmower (even with two 40V batteries) may become choked at just a tiny bit of long grass. The gas-powered lawnmower, on the other hand, will rip through high grass, bramble bushes protruding through the ground, all manner of thick-stalked weeds, etc., etc. with ease.

Chainsaws? Try going to Home Depot's Tool Rental area and ask if they have a battery-powered or "corded" chainsaw. They'll look at you like you're crazy. They'll probably tell you "I've never used anything but a gas-powered chainsaw and I never want to use anything else". The difference is cutting through a thick branch with ease as compared with struggling with some length of wood for ten times the amount of time.
 
For many commercial outfits, a lot also comes down to repairability. Gas powered models are simply easier to repair than their electric counterparts.
 
For many commercial outfits, a lot also comes down to repairability. Gas powered models are simply easier to repair than their electric counterparts.
I agree 100%. I used to meticulously clean my gas-powered tools' carburetors whenever performance declined. And now that the carburetors have become so inexpensive to buy (about $10-$15 via Amazon, ebay, etc.), I don't spend the time any more. Replace the carburetor and it's good as new in no time.

Once a battery goes, I don't know what to do with it. I don't know of any way to service them and I don't know of any hardware store, repair shop, etc. that services them. I've saved about ten nonworking ones hoping for a technological breakthrough in how to repair them. But they're likely garbage.

And I state my preference for gas-powered landscaping tools despite my strong belief in global warming and that carbon exhaust (and human activity in general) is causing such global warming. I just feel there's nothing to be gained from a piece of equipment that can't do the job.
 
Maybe ... or maybe not.

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Leave it to you to do a Google search and drop in the AI overview. I am surprised it isn't a link this time. That says nothing to repairability. They may be lower maintenance but they will still break. When they do break they are more often a throw away item than something that can be easily or fixed at a low cost. The maintenance issue may be good for someone without the ability to do their own repairs or maintenance (like a regular consumer). An outfit that has people that know how to repair the gas powered models won't have that issue.

My FIL has an electric chainsaw. Tightening the chain was a PIA and overall the plastic parts tend to break making it useless. Finding parts is not as easy as it sounds. At least not for consumer grade products.
 
Leave it to you to do a Google search and drop in the AI overview. I am surprised it isn't a link this time. That says nothing to repairability. They may be lower maintenance but they will still break. When they do break they are more often a throw away item than something that can be easily or fixed at a low cost. The maintenance issue may be good for someone without the ability to do their own repairs or maintenance (like a regular consumer). An outfit that has people that know how to repair the gas powered models won't have that issue.

My FIL has an electric chainsaw. Tightening the chain was a PIA and overall the plastic parts tend to break making it useless. Finding parts is not as easy as it sounds. At least not for consumer grade products.


Thank you.
I also have an inexpensive electric battery powered chain saw (Kobalt) - no oil, no gas, no chain tightening - been working great for > 5 years.

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Thank you.
I also have an inexpensive electric battery powered chain saw (Kobalt) - no oil, no gas, no chain tightening - been working great for > 5 years.

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No oil???!!!. As someone who's spent many days cutting through trees at properties that I've bought in order to clear a landscaping and/or a large garden area, a chainsaw (battery powered or gas powered) will for sure require bar and chain oil. You can't let the chain rub dry against the bar without lubrication. Doing so will relatively quickly cause severe overheating which, in turn, will likely cause damage including engine and perhaps battery failure.

No chain tightening? Then you didn't use it. Because use on tree trunks or thick tree branches will necessarily cause you to tighten it every so often so that it works optimally. Not to mention reattaching the chain altogether when it falls (i.e., hangs limply) off the bar. That, too, happens on a regular basis when the chain struggles to get through a thick branch as is always the case with a battery-powered or corded chainsaw.

Gas is a simple matter for a gas powered landscaping tool as you can buy ready-mixed fuel at Home Depot or Lowe's. Or mix it yourself according to the 40:1 or 50:1 ratio. Just be sure to use that gas within 30 days as they recommend as "old gas" is the enemy of all gas-powered equipment.

The last sentence doesn't apply to gas lawnmowers as all can most likely be used throughout the season with whatever gas has been loaded into it.. Just don't let that old gas remain in the mower through the winter. It will coagulate and cause you to have to clean or replace the carburetor before spring use. Springtime is the time for many people to throw away their old lawnmowers because they can't figure out why that mower that worked so well during the previous year all-of-a-sudden won't start. I've picked up some incredible mowers that I confirmed the owners wanted to throw away after it was put out on the curb, spent less than an hour on total maintenance, and enjoyed the use and/or sale of an incredible mower thereafter.
 
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No oil???!!!. As someone who's spent many days cutting through trees at properties that I've bought in order to clear a landscaping and/or a large garden area, a chainsaw (battery powered or gas powered) will for sure require bar and chain oil. You can't let the chain rub dry against the bar without lubrication. Doing so will relatively quickly cause severe overheating which, in turn, will likely cause damage including engine and perhaps battery failure.

No chain tightening? Then you didn't use it. Because use on tree trunks or thick tree branches will necessarily cause you to tighten it every so often so that it works optimally. Not to mention reattaching the chain altogether when it falls off the bar. That, too, happens on a regular basis when the chain struggles to get through a thick branch as is always the case with a battery-powered or corded chainsaw.

Gas is a simple matter for a gas powered landscaping tool as you can buy ready-mixed fuel at Home Depot or Lowe's. Or mix it yourself according to the 40:1 or 50:1 ratio. Just be sure to use that gas within 30 days as they recommend as "old gas" is the enemy of all gas-powered equipment.

The last sentence doesn't apply to gas lawnmowers as all can most likely be used throughout the season with whatever gas has been loaded into it.. Just don't let that old gas remain in the mower through the winter. It will coagulate and cause you to have to clean or replace the carburetor before spring use. Springtime is the time for many people to throw away their old lawnmowers because they can't figure out why that mower that worked so well during the previous year all-of-a-sudden won't start. I've picked up some incredible mowers that I confirmed the owners wanted to throw away after it was put out on the curb, spent less than an hour on total maintenance, and enjoyed the use and/or sale of an incredible mower thereafter.


No oil -- no gas -- no chain oil - no tightening .......... that's absolutely true

The small Kobalt 24 volt chainsaw is not as big or powerful as a gasoline STIHL chainsaw (made in Virginia Beach, Va.) but I use it a lot --- but not on big thick trees ;)


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Battery operated lawn and garden equipment is great for consumers taking care of their own property but there is no way it’s a viable option for commercial landscapers. The cost of extra batteries and chargers would be prohibitive. I’m not sure about how their commercial durability would be either. Why would I buy battery operated backpack blower with multiple batteries and chargers for $1500+ when I can buy a great gas one with known durability history for a third of cost of the battery unit. But, with gas prices getting ready to go through the roof this week, you never know!
 
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