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Rental agreement for timeshare

Designerd

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Hello
1) Looking to get a copy and process owners use to rent their Wyndham timeshare? Please provide example/details.

2) how do you protect yourself from a cancellation within the 15 day window?

3) Have you rented thru Wyndham's extra holidays with any success? Been leary to loose points within the 15 day window. Are there any other companies to consider rental through?
 

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I used to do a lot of rentals and I never used a written agreement (except one time a customer wanted one)

Agreements and contracts are only as good as the people that sign them. If someone is scamming you, or you them, they will sign anything and if they have to cancel, (sickness, death, work emergency etc) they will cancel

Don’t worry about protecting yourself from a dishonest customer, rather figure out how to present yourself as a trustworthy landlord.

I never used extra holidays. Mainly because they take 40% and because I figured out how to do this before I knew extra holidays existed
 

Sandi Bo

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There are several rental agreement samples available here on TUG. In the toolbar (on this page). Go to: Advice -> Renting articles. I used TimeshareVon's Generic Rental Agreement and doctored it up a bit with some things I specifically wanted to include (or exclude - like I don't require a signature).

Realistically - I'm pretty certain it would not hold it's weight if I had any issues. Transacting across states, etc, I can't imagine trying to legally pursue anyone. I make it simple, 'by paying the invoice you are agreeing to these terms', so there's no signatures for either of us required. I don't want that hassle. And again, have very low expectations that it would help me out in court anyways.

I'm sure it's scared away a few people I'd prefer not to rent to ("what, i have to count the silverware?"). And if something major did happen, perhaps it would be of some benefit (who knows). I state the details of the transaction in the rental agreement and it's a good reference for me. It's pretty much my booking/records and if I promised anything to someone (a free upgrade, what I will charge for an upgrade, or if I offered a refund if I get a discount, anything I may want to refer to later). The details come in handy for me.

It also allows me to set some expectations. No refunds, what to do when leaving, don't exceed occupancy, no pets, fees that may be incurred, no timeshare presentation required, can't guarantee a view, etc.

I can count on one hand the number of times someone has stayed and hadn't paid before staying (very unusual circumstances, hurricane - already there, need an extra an extra room or someone ill while there and need to stay, those extremely unusual (and emergency type) circumstances).

Maybe on 2 hands, the number of people who don't pay before the 15 day cancellation mark (that would only happen with a last minute rental). I also have my money.

I've had 2 times I think that someone has contested a payment to PayPal (and yes PayPal refunds 1st, asks questions later). Thankfully, in both situations the person forgot my name and didn't recognize the charge when they saw it, so filed a dispute. They were honest mistakes and I got my money. Reality - you would likely lose a dispute with a dishonest person.

The biggest burn for me, was selling last minute on eBay, and the person didn't pay. My hands were tied. I call that being held hostage by eBay feedback. The item was sold and they kept saying they would pay and never did. They didn't use the room, I did not put the guest confirmation on it. But it sat empty. Ebay is not at all helpful in this situation. Yes, they refunded the fee for the ad. I had a room sit empty. I am much more careful with my eBay ads now. I try to make those last minute things buy it now so they have to pay immediately. It's not always easy, if you are accepting offers, you can't make them pay immediately.

I have not, nor ever would, used Wyndham's Extra Holidays. I can't imagine that being profitable the way I understand it is run.
 

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Beng an attorney by education (not by vocation), I should insist on rental agreements. I don't. I had one renter from NYC who required a rental agreement. I pulled one down from some website (probably TUG or RedWeek.com), made some changes and sent it to my renter. No más. Too much time scanning and faxing documents. If I did that for all rentals, I'd have to quit my day job. This was a few years ago and I understand there are ways to reduce administrative processing time.

I try to keep it simple and quick -- I send a guest confirmation and expect payment within 24 hours unless it is a repeat customer.

I've had one payment contested to PayPal. I sent PayPal copies of emails where the renter had acknowledged receipt of the guest confirmation. I called Bonnet Creek and they confirmed that my renter checked in on the first day and checked out on the last. I was able to keep the PayPal payment but PayPal said it was because I had been a good customer, which made it sound like my renter stiffed PayPal.

I lost one rental several years ago because the renter didn't want to pay until she had checked in. I gave her all kinds of reasons why that was totally unacceptable to me. She insisted so there was no deal.

My ebay listings are all fixed price listings, Buy It Now and immediate payment. I have never used Extra Holidays. I have used resorts' rental programs on occasion out of desperation -- Quarter House and The Resort on Cocoa Beach -- for reservations that didn't sell through normal methods. I mostly took a big loss but there were a couple of times that the check from the resort was more than my listing price.

I agree with Ron. With a new customer, my task is to establish my trustworthiness -- personal background, ebay feedback, etc. I check out my new customers and can usually confirm enough about them to feel fairly comfortable renting to them. Here's a photo from Google Maps of one customer. I figured he was okay!

Renter's House.jpg
 
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dgalati

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I used to do a lot of rentals and I never used a written agreement (except one time a customer wanted one)

Agreements and contracts are only as good as the people that sign them. If someone is scamming you, or you them, they will sign anything and if they have to cancel, (sickness, death, work emergency etc) they will cancel

Don’t worry about protecting yourself from a dishonest customer, rather figure out how to present yourself as a trustworthy landlord.

I never used extra holidays. Mainly because they take 40% and because I figured out how to do this before I knew extra holidays existed
Agree on the contract only being as good as the person signing. I have rented many times and was never asked to sign a rental agreement. I also never requested one. I like Paypal but payment by check has also been no problem when requested. I always request a confirmation letter or call resort to make sure reservation was made. There is always a risk but I believe most are trust worthy.
 

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Beng an attorney by education (not by vocation),
I agree with Ron. With a new customer, my task is to establish my trustworthiness -- personal background, ebay feedback, etc. I check out my new customers and can usually confirm enough about them to feel fairly comfortable renting to them. Here's a photo from Google Maps of one customer. I figured he was okay!

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Pool in back yard and lives in N.J. Big red flag. Lol
 

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