Red, platinum and floating week pros/cons

[azbound5]

NEWBIE here Looking at purchasing a 2L at Ko Olina and Im hoping someone can tell me the difference/pros/cons to owning a red, platinum or floating week?

 

[Pamplemousse]

Floating just means the exact week is not assigned and you pick among the weeks in your season when you reserve your home resort week each year.
Marriott calls their seasons platinum for highest, then gold, silver. Which weeks belong in each season vary by resort.
If you are going to deposit your week into interval and exchange you will get the best trading power with a platinum week.
I believe Ko Olina only has platinum season but someone correct me if that is not true please.

 

[echino]

NEWBIE here Looking at purchasing a 2L at Ko Olina and Im hoping someone can tell me the difference/pros/cons to owning a red, platinum or floating week?

At Marriott Ko Olina, there are floating weeks in the Platinum season (weeks 1-50), and fixed weeks 51 and 52. Here's the calendar:

https://www.marriottvacationsworldwide.com/common/cms/mvc/pdfs/helpfulTools/resortCalendar/Marriott%27s_Ko_Olina_Beach_Club_Resort_Calendar.pdf

This means if you want to reserve week 51 or 52, you must own that fixed week. If you want to reserve any other week (1-50), you need a floating 1-50 Platinum ownership.

 

[azbound5]

Floating just means the exact week is not assigned and you pick among the weeks in your season when you reserve your home resort week each year.
Marriott calls their seasons platinum for highest, then gold, silver. Which weeks belong in each season vary by resort.
If you are going to deposit your week into interval and exchange you will get the best trading power with a platinum week.
I believe Ko Olina only has platinum season but someone correct me if that is not true please.

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

 

[azbound5]

At Marriott Ko Olina, there are floating weeks in the Platinum season (weeks 1-50), and fixed weeks 51 and 52. Here's the calendar:

https://www.marriottvacationsworldwide.com/common/cms/mvc/pdfs/helpfulTools/resortCalendar/Marriott%27s_Ko_Olina_Beach_Club_Resort_Calendar.pdf

This means if you want to reserve week 51 or 52, you must own that fixed week. If you want to reserve any other week (1-50), you need a floating 1-50 Platinum ownership.

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

 

[frank808]

At Marriott Ko Olina, there are floating weeks in the Platinum season (weeks 1-50), and fixed weeks 51 and 52. Here's the calendar:

https://www.marriottvacationsworldwide.com/common/cms/mvc/pdfs/helpfulTools/resortCalendar/Marriott%27s_Ko_Olina_Beach_Club_Resort_Calendar.pdf

This means if you want to reserve week 51 or 52, you must own that fixed week. If you want to reserve any other week (1-50), you need a floating 1-50 Platinum ownership.

As a MKO fixed week 51 owner I can reserve any week 1-51.

Same with my Aruba Surf Club. I have a week 52. I can reserve week 52 or reserve another platinum week except for the fixed presidents day week which is fixed.

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[Bill4728]

Note Marriott uses both the terms Platinum week and red week, they both mean the highest value week. Only the oldest marriott resorts use the "red, white and blue" weeks

 

[ilumo]

quick question on the fixed week

Floating just means the exact week is not assigned and you pick among the weeks in your season when you reserve your home resort week each year.
Marriott calls their seasons platinum for highest, then gold, silver. Which weeks belong in each season vary by resort.
If you are going to deposit your week into interval and exchange you will get the best trading power with a platinum week.
I believe Ko Olina only has platinum season but someone correct me if that is not true please.

Hi. is there a difference in trading power in II between a non premium fixed week and a platinum week? or what about a fixed week 51/52 vs a platinum week?

 

[BJRSanDiego]

quick question on the fixed week

Hi. is there a difference in trading power in II between a non premium fixed week and a platinum week? or what about a fixed week 51/52 vs a platinum week?

The trading power in ii is referred to as TDI or Travel Demand Index and it ranges from 50 to 150 with 100 being an average demand and 150 being the highest.

So, at a location like Palm Desert roughly 10 or so platinum weeks (1-20 plus 51,52) have a TDI of 150 and the lowest platinum TDI is 105. In Hawaii, essentially the whole year (1-50) is considered Platinum although the TDI ranges from 100 to 150.

So, a "non-premium fixed week ... [versus] a platinum week" -- it depends on the specific platinum week you are talking about. The same thing is true about a fixed week 51 or 52 - - in Hawaii the fixed week 51-52 has a 150 TDI. Whereas in Palm Desert fixed week 51-52 has a TDI of 135. If you stare at the ii TDI charts what I'm writing will probably make sense.

For me, I reserve a date that has the highest TDI within my season because it'll give me higher trading power. I own some "white" or "gold" weeks in Palm Desert and reserve Thanksgiving (TDI 125). If I could do it over again, I probably should have bought only platinum weeks...

 

[noreenkate]

The trading power in ii is referred to as TDI or Travel Demand Index and it ranges from 50 to 150 with 100 being an average demand and 150 being the highest.

So, at a location like Palm Desert roughly 10 or so platinum weeks (1-20 plus 51,52) have a TDI of 150 and the lowest platinum TDI is 105. In Hawaii, essentially the whole year (1-50) is considered Platinum although the TDI ranges from 100 to 150.

So, a "non-premium fixed week ... [versus] a platinum week" -- it depends on the specific platinum week you are talking about. The same thing is true about a fixed week 51 or 52 - - in Hawaii the fixed week 51-52 has a 150 TDI. Whereas in Palm Desert fixed week 51-52 has a TDI of 135. If you stare at the ii TDI charts what I'm writing will probably make sense.

For me, I reserve a date that has the highest TDI within my season because it'll give me higher trading power. I own some "white" or "gold" weeks in Palm Desert and reserve Thanksgiving (TDI 125). If I could do it over again, I probably should have bought only platinum weeks...


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Great explanation

 

[ilumo]

The trading power in ii is referred to as TDI or Travel Demand Index and it ranges from 50 to 150 with 100 being an average demand and 150 being the highest.

So, at a location like Palm Desert roughly 10 or so platinum weeks (1-20 plus 51,52) have a TDI of 150 and the lowest platinum TDI is 105. In Hawaii, essentially the whole year (1-50) is considered Platinum although the TDI ranges from 100 to 150.

So, a "non-premium fixed week ... [versus] a platinum week" -- it depends on the specific platinum week you are talking about. The same thing is true about a fixed week 51 or 52 - - in Hawaii the fixed week 51-52 has a 150 TDI. Whereas in Palm Desert fixed week 51-52 has a TDI of 135. If you stare at the ii TDI charts what I'm writing will probably make sense.

For me, I reserve a date that has the highest TDI within my season because it'll give me higher trading power. I own some "white" or "gold" weeks in Palm Desert and reserve Thanksgiving (TDI 125). If I could do it over again, I probably should have bought only platinum weeks...


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Thank you for the detailed explanation. So it seems like the fixed week inherently has no more trading power on II vs. any other (gold/platinum) week. The trading power is determined what the TDI is for that reserved week. This makes sense from a relative sense. Now my next question, and I asked this on another thread is how to determine the inter-location trading power? e.g. A week in Mexico with a TDI of 150 vs a week in Hawaii with a TDI of 150 would probably not trade at par since demand will highly skew towards hawaii.
Am i correct in that assumption? If so, then is there a way to determine which locations have the highest trading power across the entire II universe? from my research, I have seen Marriotts GC, GV, hawaii resorts as some of the best general traders, but it would be great if there is a list that can power rank locations/resorts by highest absolute trading power. Is something like that available?

 

[Steve Fatula]

II does not publish such a list or data. You are correct as far as comparing regions, 150 at resort A <> 150 at resort B most likely if in different regions. The best you can do is accept what people here on TUG say about best traders.

 

[DeniseM]

This is not correct: TDI is the travel demand index - not the trading power, and you cannot compare regions. It shows the demand for each week in a specific region.


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[jwalk03]

Yes and remember it’s by region not resort specific even though the trade power certainly varies by resort within the same reason. TDI is guideline to tell you which week should demand the highest trade value- nothing more.

 

[Dean]

Thank you for the detailed explanation. So it seems like the fixed week inherently has no more trading power on II vs. any other (gold/platinum) week. The trading power is determined what the TDI is for that reserved week. This makes sense from a relative sense. Now my next question, and I asked this on another thread is how to determine the inter-location trading power? e.g. A week in Mexico with a TDI of 150 vs a week in Hawaii with a TDI of 150 would probably not trade at par since demand will highly skew towards hawaii.
Am i correct in that assumption? If so, then is there a way to determine which locations have the highest trading power across the entire II universe? from my research, I have seen Marriotts GC, GV, hawaii resorts as some of the best general traders, but it would be great if there is a list that can power rank locations/resorts by highest absolute trading power. Is something like that available?

A given unit size at a given resort will have the same trading power as any other unit at that resort assuming it has the same sleeping capacity and matches the kitchen parameters. View or fixed week makes no difference to II for a given deposit. In general, each region will have the same inherent trading power as well within the region, however, II will segregate them to some degree based on resort ratings. I wish II would standardize TDI like RCI does with their TPU's but I understand why they might want to keep us guessing. Since II does not release trading power, there's no way to actually know for certain. Unfortunately sights and exchange results run online are not very good measures (actually very poor IMO) for a number of reasons. I use my knowledge of demand for a given area plus I cross reference with RCI's TPU's and condo rental price as a guide when I need to know the info for in detail. What TDI will give you is relative demand for a given week for a resort and area. Unit size is a big factor as well.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

A TDI of 150 at one resort in an area may not have the trading power of another TDI 150 at a different resort in the same geographic area. Case-in-point: I did a manual search with a 2 BR DSV1, a DSV2, and a Shadow Ridge Enclaves Deluxe, using exactly the check-in dates. Then I searched other locations to see if they all pulled exactly the same inventory. It wasn't an exhaustive test, but I found that the Shadow Ridge Enclaves Dlx unit could (in some cases) "see" a few more dates and larger units than the other two. IIRC, the DSV1 unit (in one or two cases) saw one more unit than the DSV2. So, my opinion is that all TDI 150 units don't have exactly the same trading power. My results were consistent with the points that Marriott assigns to DSV1, DSV2 and SRE-dlx, which I don't find surprising.

But, in order to do this test, I had to find some search locations and dates where there was a difference. That is, where the trading power came into effect. At some locations, I saw the same inventory leading me to believe that all of my units had ample trading power to "pull" all of the available inventory.

It would be interesting for someone to do the same test using a TDI 150 unit from one geographic area and compare it to the same in another geographic area. For instance, say, compare a Marriott Maui Ocean Club (or similar high-demand area) with a TDI of 150 and compare it to, say, a Desert Springs TDI 150 unit. I suspect that the Maui unit would see more than the Palm Desert unit.

 

[Dean]

A TDI of 150 at one resort in an area may not have the trading power of another TDI 150 at a different resort in the same geographic area.

There are other variables besides TDI.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

There are other variables besides TDI.

Yes, absolutely.

 

[VacationForever]

A TDI of 150 at one resort in an area may not have the trading power of another TDI 150 at a different resort in the same geographic area. Case-in-point: I did a manual search with a 2 BR DSV1, a DSV2, and a Shadow Ridge Enclaves Deluxe, using exactly the check-in dates. Then I searched other locations to see if they all pulled exactly the same inventory. It wasn't an exhaustive test, but I found that the Shadow Ridge Enclaves Dlx unit could (in some cases) "see" a few more dates and larger units than the other two. IIRC, the DSV1 unit (in one or two cases) saw one more unit than the DSV2. So, my opinion is that all TDI 150 units don't have exactly the same trading power. My results were consistent with the points that Marriott assigns to DSV1, DSV2 and SRE-dlx, which I don't find surprising.

But, in order to do this test, I had to find some search locations and dates where there was a difference. That is, where the trading power came into effect. At some locations, I saw the same inventory leading me to believe that all of my units had ample trading power to "pull" all of the available inventory.

It would be interesting for someone to do the same test using a TDI 150 unit from one geographic area and compare it to the same in another geographic area. For instance, say, compare a Marriott Maui Ocean Club (or similar high-demand area) with a TDI of 150 and compare it to, say, a Desert Springs TDI 150 unit. I suspect that the Maui unit would see more than the Palm Desert unit.

What are the seasons for your DSV1, DSV2 and SRE-dlx? Thanks.

 

[Steve Fatula]

My II account has been behaving oddly lately. I can do mock trade for dsv2 studio, and see no resorts for a gvien date range and area. I can hit search again, and see 10. I can hit search again, and see 5, and so on. I can use Firefox, Chrome, Safari, doesn't matter. Can clear cache, whatever, none of that helps. One day was chatting with vacationforever and what she saw with dsv1 was different than what I saw with dsv2. By later that night, they were the same which was more what I expected. We were both looking to trade from our resort to our resort. Suspect my account is glitching. Even with same TDI (150) at a given resort, you will find rental rates varying widely over the TDI 150 weeks. One 150 TDI week might rent for half what another 150 TDI week rents for.

Now I want my II account to glitch so I can see all weeks everywhere once!

 

[BJRSanDiego]

What are the seasons for your DSV1, DSV2 and SRE-dlx? Thanks.

I have a DSV1 white, a DSV2 white and red, and an SRE-dlx platinum.

If I was to do it again, I'd go for all red/platinum. But my favorite time in PD is Oct-Dec, which is white/gold season.

When I do comparative searches in ii, it doesn't know what I own. So, for my recent test, I plugged in the same check-in date. I was wondering if there was any difference in trading power between the three. There is, but it doesn't seem to be a whole lot.

 

[VacationForever]

I have a DSV1 white, a DSV2 white and red, and an SRE-dlx platinum.

If I was to do it again, I'd go for all red/platinum. But my favorite time in PD is Oct-Dec, which is white/gold season.

When I do comparative searches in ii, it doesn't know what I own. So, for my recent test, I plugged in the same check-in date. I was wondering if there was any difference in trading power between the three. There is, but it doesn't seem to be a whole lot.

I think with MVC owning II, in future trade power may tie back to how many DC points the week gets if enrolled.