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We just got back from 7 days at Parc Soleil in a 3 bedroom Penthouse. We had a wonderful time and found the resort in really good condition. My only complaint is I missed the Adult only pool that they had in 2017 when I was there.
We did the "Portfolio Review" for the $100 Visa GC. Below are the highlights of the event and some photos I took of the "Sales Planner".
We had an 8:15 appointment and there were approximately 20 others with us. The sales center looks brand new with a grey, blue color scheme. We sat down and had a snack and waited for our "counselor" come and get us. We watched as everybody was called and their counselor introduced themselves via a handshake. We were the last to be called and I don't even remember her name as she did not extend a handshake (not a big deal for me). We went into a room with everybody where we received a 10 minute update on the club where 10 resorts were highlighted as well as 2 resorts that his manger allowed him to discuss (ya right). The presentation touched base on new resorts to the club from DI as well as HC (Hilton Club). Two resorts that his manager let him talk about that are coming online that members can use their Club points on by the end of 2023 are St. Marteen and Whisler. Both were DI resorts, but Hilton has put $23 million into these resorts to bring them up to the HGVC standard. He emphasized that the resort in St. Marteen was in a quite location on the island and was severely destroyed by hurricanes last year. After many ooh and ah's in the room, I was thinking more that only $23 million for two resorts. He discussed that HGVC Maui cost $288 million to build so again $23 million does not seem like that much for two resorts especially one that was severely damaged.
He discussed HGV Lake Tahoe Resort. I live in California and have been to this resort. Definitely not HGVC standard. Also discussed HC in Sesoko Japan and it being an all ocean view resort.
He spoke fast and sounded like a salesman to me. Lasted 10 minutes.
So I own a EOY at Grand Pacific Palisades (Developer Purchase) and at HGVC Mar Brisa (Resale Purchase). My Mar Brisa purchase is an original Grand Pacific Resorts owned week, but both offer me HGVC points if I don't use my week. I have two different account numbers for each contract.
Thanks to TUG, I was aware of MAX and Trust Points. When it was time to meet with our counselor, I immediately told her that I was not interested in MAX or Trust Points. I told her we were very happy with out deeded weeks and that I have never had an issue booking what I wanted. She said they were not selling any deeded weeks only Trust Points. She did agree with me that the HVC is not at the same standard as HGVC. It came as a great shock to her when I saw the paper she had showed my resale week with a purchase price of $21K when in reality I paid $3k. I explained what I owned and how my points worked. She was shocked when I told her that I can convert my weeks at affiliates to HGVC points. She did not seem to understand how I could do this. I finally pointed out that she had my resale account and not my developer account on the paper.
She briefly discussed the HGV ultimate access and how a search can be conducted. I wasn't impressed. Then tried to talk about converting my points at $.20 a point with no expiration. I always love when the sales person is defeated because they then always ask "well why are you here". She resorted to say "I know you are here just for the free gift" Well she excused herself to go and "find" my other account and never returned. Another gentlemen came over and wanted to make sure my counselor was professional and not rude and then we done. Less than an hour and $100 richer.
While she was gone, I took photos of the "sales planner". I am trying to upload photos of it, but it isn't working at this time. Once I figure out how to, I will upload them.
I did ask her how much the upgrade fee was to MAX since I know it has been said numerous time on this forum about $7K. She told me that Hilton has been very transparent in their pricing and showed me in the sales planner where it says $8 per point with a 5000 point minimum contract ($40K). Crazy.
We did the "Portfolio Review" for the $100 Visa GC. Below are the highlights of the event and some photos I took of the "Sales Planner".
We had an 8:15 appointment and there were approximately 20 others with us. The sales center looks brand new with a grey, blue color scheme. We sat down and had a snack and waited for our "counselor" come and get us. We watched as everybody was called and their counselor introduced themselves via a handshake. We were the last to be called and I don't even remember her name as she did not extend a handshake (not a big deal for me). We went into a room with everybody where we received a 10 minute update on the club where 10 resorts were highlighted as well as 2 resorts that his manger allowed him to discuss (ya right). The presentation touched base on new resorts to the club from DI as well as HC (Hilton Club). Two resorts that his manager let him talk about that are coming online that members can use their Club points on by the end of 2023 are St. Marteen and Whisler. Both were DI resorts, but Hilton has put $23 million into these resorts to bring them up to the HGVC standard. He emphasized that the resort in St. Marteen was in a quite location on the island and was severely destroyed by hurricanes last year. After many ooh and ah's in the room, I was thinking more that only $23 million for two resorts. He discussed that HGVC Maui cost $288 million to build so again $23 million does not seem like that much for two resorts especially one that was severely damaged.
He discussed HGV Lake Tahoe Resort. I live in California and have been to this resort. Definitely not HGVC standard. Also discussed HC in Sesoko Japan and it being an all ocean view resort.
He spoke fast and sounded like a salesman to me. Lasted 10 minutes.
So I own a EOY at Grand Pacific Palisades (Developer Purchase) and at HGVC Mar Brisa (Resale Purchase). My Mar Brisa purchase is an original Grand Pacific Resorts owned week, but both offer me HGVC points if I don't use my week. I have two different account numbers for each contract.
Thanks to TUG, I was aware of MAX and Trust Points. When it was time to meet with our counselor, I immediately told her that I was not interested in MAX or Trust Points. I told her we were very happy with out deeded weeks and that I have never had an issue booking what I wanted. She said they were not selling any deeded weeks only Trust Points. She did agree with me that the HVC is not at the same standard as HGVC. It came as a great shock to her when I saw the paper she had showed my resale week with a purchase price of $21K when in reality I paid $3k. I explained what I owned and how my points worked. She was shocked when I told her that I can convert my weeks at affiliates to HGVC points. She did not seem to understand how I could do this. I finally pointed out that she had my resale account and not my developer account on the paper.
She briefly discussed the HGV ultimate access and how a search can be conducted. I wasn't impressed. Then tried to talk about converting my points at $.20 a point with no expiration. I always love when the sales person is defeated because they then always ask "well why are you here". She resorted to say "I know you are here just for the free gift" Well she excused herself to go and "find" my other account and never returned. Another gentlemen came over and wanted to make sure my counselor was professional and not rude and then we done. Less than an hour and $100 richer.
While she was gone, I took photos of the "sales planner". I am trying to upload photos of it, but it isn't working at this time. Once I figure out how to, I will upload them.
I did ask her how much the upgrade fee was to MAX since I know it has been said numerous time on this forum about $7K. She told me that Hilton has been very transparent in their pricing and showed me in the sales planner where it says $8 per point with a 5000 point minimum contract ($40K). Crazy.
