Point at Poipu 2026 MF.

[artringwald]

Just got my deeded week statements for 2026. The fees, including the "voluntary" $7 ARDA contribution are $2767.19/week for a 2 bedroom unit. That's up 5% from 2025.

I've had no trouble booking oceanfront with my deeded weeks when I book 360 days in advance. Oceanfront costs 15,500 points except during holiday. Can anyone tell me how much you'd pay in fees for 15,500 points in the Hawaii Collection?

 

[youppi]

Just got my deeded week statements for 2026. The fees, including the "voluntary" $7 ARDA contribution are $2767.19/week for a 2 bedroom unit. That's up 5% from 2025.

I've had no trouble booking oceanfront with my deeded weeks when I book 360 days in advance. Oceanfront costs 15,500 points except during holiday. Can anyone tell me how much you'd pay in fees for 15,500 points in the Hawaii Collection?

I don't know the 2026 MF of Hawaii Collection but booking Oceant Front with 15,500 is normaly the worst thing to do. The best bang for the buck if you book without upgrade is normaly the Garden View (8,500 points). All other views should be booked using the upgrade perk.

I went to hilton.com to get the rental per night at Point at Poipu for May 2 to May 9, 2026 (Saturday checking) and I calculated the value a member get per point used

A per a post of @T_R_Oglodyte, the 2025 MF per points was over $0.21 per point (the 2026 should be more than that) and thus the Return On Investment (ROI) is not very good vs the rental cost of an Ocean Front even if we add the rental tax if somebody has bought his points from the developer. Saving just a couple of penny per points per year is not enough to recover the cost of acquisition of those points.

I don't know how much is the upgrade fee but if it's $20 per night ($140 per week) then after removing the upgrade fee from the rental cost to calculate the value get per point used we can see that it's much better

 

[artringwald]

I don't know the 2026 MF of Hawaii Collection but booking Oceant Front with 15,500 is normally the worst thing to do. The best bang for the buck if you book without upgrade is normaly the Garden View (8,500 points). All other views should be booked using the upgrade perk.

I agree that the upgrade is best, but only if you're sure you won't have to cancel or change the dates. The upgrade fee is not refundable. When booking for friends or relatives that can't be sure of they're plans 360 days in advance, we don't upgrade.

 

[youppi]

I agree that the upgrade is best, but only if you're sure you won't have to cancel or change the dates. The upgrade fee is not refundable. When booking for friends or relatives that can't be sure of they're plans 360 days in advance, we don't upgrade.

I looked at the benefits grid in https://cmsprod.diamondresorts.com/sites/default/files/us-member-benefits-book-combined_36.pdf and if somebody rents points to book an Ocean Front at Point at Poipu using the "Flexibility Price Per Point" perk, it will cost more than renting on hilton.com.
Even a Centum, will pay ($0.28 *15,500 = $4340) more than the rental cost ($3542+tax=$4201.87) on hilton.com for an Ocean Front at Point at Poipu.
HVC does't do any discount for their members with this perk (Flexibility Price Per Point).

 

[cowboyfan]

How much is the membership fee this year? It was $229 last year for domestic US members.

 

[FunnyFarm]

This doesn't answer Art's question about 2026 but I wonder the same thing.
Always looking at the value of my deeded ownership at The Point. So, forgive my rambling.

I always go Thanksgiving week. Never tried Christmas.
Waiting for the Christmas week reservation window to open seems risky for an F/F owner since the competition for OF will be tough and the earlier prime summer weeks will have been taken by then, so can't go back for them.

At $2767.19 that is $395.31 per night for OF at the Point @ Poipu 2025. Deeded reservation.

I just saw on Redweek that there are three weeks available for Christmas week this december for $357 per night.
One rented for $286/night for Cristmas this coming December. One rented for $200/night this past August.
Keep in mind that Christmas week OF would be 19,500 points per week vs. the regular 15,500 for August.
Jan/Feb 2026 OFs listed for $400-$500 on Redweek.

Some Redweek ads were quite varied.
Garden view was as low as $189, some views were over $500/night.
Not everyone checks the market value when posting, it seems.

Oh, I just remembered that Redweek tacks on their fees to the renter so that inflates the list prices by about 10%.
Just one more factor in this evaluation.

Currently there are 6 TUG rental ads from $1300 to $3500/week. Mostly in the $2,000's.
Several were for unreserved points weeks so availablity could vary.

So Hilton.com prices might be not the best measurement of true value per point either.
However, a real and reliable data point for sure.


Points owner reservation prices: (2025)
At $0.21 per point 19500=$4095 +$229=$4324/week or $617.71/night peak week (2025 prices)
$3255/ week for non-peak week (15500 pts) plus $229 = $497/night

Anyway, as a deeded owner (since 1996) I have occasionally been looking at my MFs and comparing the rental prices.
If I am not too picky about dates it seems I could easily rent into weeks for near or even below MFs.
Points owners, the same applies.
This is without the 360 day (or 13 mo) reservation window competition and without considering the acquisition cost (now sunk).


Sunk costs:
$4/point x 15500 = $62,000 for the unlucky recent developer purchaser.
Resale points: Free plus closing maybe. (with Collection restrictions)

Resale Deeds: $0 (I've seen 2 free OF recently, tempting) to $3,000 maybe, depending on view (plus closing).
I paid $14,000 for a F/F deed in 1996 from Sunterra, branded Embassy Suites.


Lastly, as a deeded owner, I feel trapped into staying at P@P in peak weeks to maximize value due to high MFs.
Trading out seems like trading down in value, unless you are lucky or savvy in the systems.
Renting out my week: it seems unlikely that I could profit, unless I get lucky and am patient.

Point owners have more flexibilty to optimize value, of course.

 

[FunnyFarm]

Just checked TUG ads for all of Hawaii.
Can rent in weeks for lots Marriots and more for Point @ Poipu deeded MFs, (and Points MFs) more or less.

Other Hawaii resorts can be much less.