OLD/Closed General Discussion Thread: C-19/Hawaii. Will Hawaii re-open Oct. 15th? (+ NEW POLL)

[DeniseM]

Please see the new poll above the thread ∆∆∆.

I started this new thread, because the old one was getting too long - it is still available here: https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/t...or-all-hawaii-coronavirus-discussions.304580/

 

[DeniseM]

From the very beginning, I predicted that Hawaii would re-open in October, but it doesn't look like that is happening. I think they will make a big push to reopen for the very lucrative holidays, so I am changing my prediction to Dec. 1st.

 

[slip]

From the very beginning, I predicted that Hawaii would re-open in October, but it doesn't look like that is happening. I think they will make a big push to reopen for the very lucrative holidays, so I am changing my prediction to Dec. 1st.

I agree with you but I am including Thanksgiving so I went with November. November may end out with just inter-island with no quarantine though. I know there are a lot of locals really getting tired of not being able to see family on other islands.

 

[DeniseM]

Good point, Jeff! I hadn't thought about TG.

 

[Luanne]

Could we add a category "Sometime in the future"?

 

[DeniseM]

Nope - "sometime in the future" is no vote at all!

 

[b2bailey]

[WE HAVE A WINNER! (MAYBE) DeniseM]

I'm voting for 10/15.
Who says it has to be a 30 day window?
Also, I like idea of resort bubble. Any chance Maui will do that?

 

[jabberwocky]

I'm voting for 10/15.
Who says it has to be a 30 day window?
Also, I like idea of resort bubble. Any chance Maui will do that?

I hope not. That would destroy the whole purpose of going to Maui if I can’t go in the ocean. It would be a nice jail, but a jail nonetheless.

 

[controller1]

I hope not. That would destroy the whole purpose of going to Maui if I can’t go in the ocean. It would be a nice jail, but a jail nonetheless.

I agree, as the cost of flights and other expenses of Hawaii are too much to acquire only a little larger prison with an outdoor recreation yard.

 

[slip]

Remember, on these resort bubbles. The resort would have to draw up a plan and submit it for approval. Some resorts are better set up to be able to handle this. So each resort will decide if they will participate.

 

[DannyTS]

@DeniseM I voted for November but I think there is a decent possibility (I hope not) it will close again in a couple of months. As you can see, I resisted voting for the last option

 

[b2bailey]

I hope not. That would destroy the whole purpose of going to Maui if I can’t go in the ocean. It would be a nice jail, but a jail nonetheless.

As with many things in life, there is the implied "compared to what" which can vary from A to Z. I'm my case, I made the decision that I WILL GO to Maui in mid October, for my 70th Birthday, even if I must go alone, and must quarantine. I've been to Hawaii too many times to count, so that is a factor in my decision. Two more -- when we started planning this family adventure, back in June, I committed to about $1,000 in non-refundable reservations. Also, on August 31 I moved from my desert apartment and put all into storage. So, 14 days in lock-up (or is it lock down?) will just be a stop-gap in my future plans. I will be there a 3rd week to celebrate my freedom, and might even stay longer. This is why I would prefer a resort bubble over complete quarantine.

 

[PigsDad]

Where is the "I don't wan't to talk about this, so I am going to post pictures of butterflies instead of ignoring this" option for the poll?

Kurt

 

[DeniseM]

Kurt - I wish I had thought of that!!!!!

 

[1Kflyerguy]

Also, I like idea of resort bubble. Any chance Maui will do that?

A while back i read that both Maui and Kauai had applied to open resort bubbles. So far i have only heard of Kauai being approved to move forward with the bubble idea.

Originally i was interested in the idea, but currently i am a lot less interested. In the end it will probably depend on how they actually implement the bubble, what resorts are involved, and other factors like my general comfort with travel by the time they actually get something implemented.

 

[echino]

Under resort bubble, can you go to the beach in front of the resort and swim in the ocean?

 

[DeniseM]

Under resort bubble, can you go to the beach in front of the resort and swim in the ocean

The resort writes the Bubble Plan, so I don't know why they wouldn't include the beach and ocean.

 

[Tamaradarann]

From the very beginning, I predicted that Hawaii would re-open in October, but it doesn't look like that is happening. I think they will make a big push to reopen for the very lucrative holidays, so I am changing my prediction to Dec. 1st.

I agree with you for two reasons:

One is that Thanksgiving is not a big deal in Hawaii. The Holiday is only a few days off for working people and schools. The Christmas/New Years is a Holiday season and is a big deal and a long enough vacation to make the trip. It is also a gift giving and gift buying Holiday.

Two the Hilton Hawaiian Village, the largest resort in Hawaii, has moved back its reservation taking until December 1. They may or may not know something that we don't, or perhaps they are actually involved somewhat in the decision making. The Hilton Hawaiian Village runs a number of special events in Honolulu for Tourists as well as Locals such as the Friday Fireworks, the Duke's Challenge, some Hawaiian Contests like Queen Narcissis as well as loads of Conferences and Conventions they are a main economic driver with over 10,000 rooms and obviously many jobs that are now gone.

 

[jabberwocky]

The resort writes the Bubble Plan, so I don't know why they wouldn't include the beach and ocean.

I think all beaches in Hawaii are public lands - could the resort block off the beaches legally and consider them part of the resort?

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I think it will open in May 2021. This was about the time things started to recover for the 1918 pandemic and the Hawaiian economy will need the summer boost.

 

[DeniseM]

I think all beaches in Hawaii are public lands - could the resort block off the beaches legally and consider them part of the resort?

Why would it have to be blocked off?

 

[jabberwocky]

Why would it have to be blocked off?

Isn't the whole point to keep toursists in isolation so they don't infect the local population? One would think they would need to prevent locals from coming into the bubble - no?

 

[controller1]

Isn't the whole point to keep toursists in isolation so they don't infect the local population? One would think they would need to prevent locals from coming into the bubble - no?

And wouldn't they need to keep those in the bubble from straying outside of the bubble?

 

[DeniseM]

Hmmm - good question. If they are outdoors and socially distancing it should be fine, but not sure exactly how it would work out. In the same vein, how will they keep locals off resort property?

 

[DeniseM]

And wouldn't they need to keep those in the bubble from straying outside of the bubble

They will have ankle bracelets and know what they have to do.