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New to timeshare. Is it worth it?

Joshuadblaine

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Hello all,
I live in VA and just got back from Massanutten like a lot of people I have seen. The offer I got was $11000 of a 2Bed/2Bath previously owned timeshare. They also added a second week for “free” as well as a free lifetime Gold Card with no annual fees on the Gold Card. They said the gold card valued at $7k. Is anyone familiar with the gold card? Is it worth it or should I decline the timeshare and go buy one online for $1.00 or something like that?
 

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I don’t know anything about Massanuttwn but someone was recently giving away a 4 bdm for free. Even if the Gold Card was worth $7,000, which it is not, you would still be $4,000 ahead getting one for free.
 

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Welcome to Tug. You're in the right place. If you're still within the rescission period, I'd very strongly suggest you rescind while you can. Your time is limited to get out of the purchase. Follow the instructions in the paperwork they gave you to the letter.

You can get a 2br unit at a variety of Massanutten resorts for virtually nothing, and some for free. The link below is a page of completed auctions on EBay for 2br resale units there - if you notice, most didn't sell, and few that did sold for next to nothing. I think the most expensive one was sold for $35. You can do MUCH better than $11,000. Don't delay - rescind while you still have time.


After you have rescinded, come back and research to learn how to get a great timeshare for pennies on the dollar.

Good luck!

Dave
 

Joshuadblaine

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One last thing to add…We were told that we could go almost anywhere around the country and world for $159/$259 a week. They gave us a book with a ton of destinations and resorts/hotels. My question is, would we be able to still do that if we bought a timeshare on eBay? Or would we be stuck at that one resort? Sorry for all the questions.
 

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Rescind - Rescind - Rescind

After Step 1 spend time reading a lot here on TUG. Become a member. Search for what you don't understand and if not obvious, ask a question.

I bought my first time share in 2019 after reading alot here. I am still learning. I own now 4 timeshares and my total capital outlay is under $500.

There are two schools of thought "Buy Where you Want to Go" and "Value Traders". Note I said "and" not "or" . There is a continuum of thought which is based on each persons value proposition and preferences. I am of the value trader school.

Read and learn first. I have gotten great value from my units while staying at high quality accommodations.
 

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One last thing to add…We were told that we could go almost anywhere around the country and world for $159/$259 a week. They gave us a book with a ton of destinations and resorts/hotels. My question is, would we be able to still do that if we bought a timeshare on eBay? Or would we be stuck at that one resort? Sorry for all the questions.
Yes, you would. They showed you an exchange system, and depending what resort you ended up buying, you could exchange in Interval International or RCI. With some club systems, you are charged a club fee from which your exchange system is paid. While with other club sytems and individual resorts, you would also have to pay an annual fee to the exchange company.
 

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By the way, every timeshare contract is "used." Even if the developer is selling it for the first time.
 

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On exchanging, it's best if you are flexible on your dates. If you are looking for an exact place on an exact date it will be difficult. Especially if you have to follow a school calendar.
 

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One last thing to add…We were told that we could go almost anywhere around the country and world for $159/$259 a week. They gave us a book with a ton of destinations and resorts/hotels. My question is, would we be able to still do that if we bought a timeshare on eBay? Or would we be stuck at that one resort? Sorry for all the questions.

The short answer about exchanging is yes - there is no real difference between retail and resale in most cases. Once you own your timeshare, where you bought it, or what you spent, is mostly irrelevant. The maintenance fees and ongoing costs are the same, regardless of where you bought.

Exchanging is not a perfect science. There needs to be an available unit you want, at the time and in the location you want. A lot of planning and coordination has to happen to get a good exchange - providing the week you deposit has the trading power to be able to pull that perfect exchange you want. Technically, you "can" go anywhere in the world, but only if you can find a comparable exchange that balances what you're trading. They are not always available, and certainly not at the drop of a hat. Most good/great exchanges take a year or two of planning ahead, and more than a dash of coincidental good luck.

If the stars align and there IS availability and your week is strong enough to pull it, then an exchange can happen. Whether you can get it for $159/$259 a week? Unlikely, and HIGHLY DOUBTFUL, at best. The annual membership in an exchange company might be $159 or $259, but to accept an exchange through them requires you to deposit your week (on which you've paid maintenance fees), and you'd also pay an exchange fee at the time to accept that exchanged week. Costs mount quickly, and the bargain days of timesharing are mostly history anymore. The two major exchange companies, RCI and Interval International, have discounted "getaway" or "last minute" vacations available for a lower price, but I doubt you could get either one for those $159/$259 kind of numbers.

Something to fully understand and accept: You need to be HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS of anything a timeshare salesperson told you - they live on their sales commissions, so will promise you everything to get you to buy. Whether you can later do what they promise rarely happens the way they said. They won't care - they have your money in their pocket, and they smile all the way to the bank.

Rescind, while you have time. Do the research, and if you decide you want to buy that same deal again, you can ALWAYS buy it again. But once you have the knowledge to make a smart decision, you'll see there are many other options. Get out of your sale while you still have time.

Dave
 

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One last thing to add…We were told that we could go almost anywhere around the country and world for $159/$259 a week.
That is the exchange fee. You would also have your annual maintenance fees for your week that exchanged. It is a one-time deal. No you cannot go almost anywhere in the world for $159/$259 and unlimited number of times per year. Maybe the salesperson "implied" that?

My question is, would we be able to still do that if we bought a timeshare on eBay? Or would we be stuck at that one resort? Sorry for all the questions.

In most timeshares, resale buyers can join the affiliated exchange company for the annual fee. If you want to exchange more often than not, there are definitely better timeshare systems than Massanutten.
 

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If you live somewhere close to Massanutten where you can regularly take advantage of day use, a gold card might be worth about $300-$500 per year. I live about 170 miles away so if I am using the facilities at Massanutten, it is because I am staying there. I doubt I save more than $100 per year with the gold card and most years it is closer to $20-$50 and that is with 2-4 stays per year. Owning at Massanutten could be worth it, if you are the type of vacationer that timeshares work for you but what you bought for $11.000 isn't even worth $500. Rescind and do some research first.
 

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Look on Marketplace to rent or buy a week. Most of my timeshares are bought or acquired from TUG. If you live close enough for day use that would be a plus. Good Luck. I hope you find the right place and week.
 

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One last thing to add…We were told that we could go almost anywhere around the country and world for $159/$259 a week. They gave us a book with a ton of destinations and resorts/hotels. My question is, would we be able to still do that if we bought a timeshare on eBay? Or would we be stuck at that one resort? Sorry for all the questions.

They were telling you the truth, examples of which are:

  1. Vail or other ski destinations in late April after skiing is closed;
  2. Maryland beach destinations in January or February; and
  3. Occassionally some good stuff.

A free unit in the bargain listings will give you access to a RCI membership, which will give you the same privileges. Don't pay $11K
 

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We've gone to Massanutten each of the last four years, most recently for the last week in March. RCI has a strong presence here, and we've had an easy time getting sales. Typically, they go on sale for 4700-6500 points about a month before their time. This compares with the 40K points per year for our Ocean City, MD week (that cost us about $2000, maybe 2500 with closing costs, 750MF). There is a 259 exchange fee, and our favorite, Massanutten Mountainside Villas, charges a 70 dollar/week resort fee, but overall it seems like a good deal for us. We generally have an excess of points that have to be used, so I don't count their value and figure the whole deal is 259+70. It's offseason, but we're not interested in prime time.
 
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First, I wouldn't buy anything that exchanges in RCI from the developer. There are too many people giving away RCI exchangers (weeks that exchange solely in RCI) both here and on ebay.

Buy something you love, buy it because you would use it sometimes.

If you bought, rescind.

Fill out the newbie form here on TUG and tell us where you want to go on vacation and we can help you figure out what to buy. You will get a crazy number of recommendations, if you keep the thread alive by posting on it. If you stop posting on it yourself, TUG members will stop answering.

So many of my favorite traders are with II and not RCI. I will always choose a trader with II for the Marriott, Westin, and other quality resorts that I get through exchange. I would buy only something in that system, or I would buy Hilton to use in the Hilton system with an occasional RCI trade.
 

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We've gone to Massanutten each of the last four years, most recently for the last week in March. RCI has a strong presence here, and we've had an easy time getting sales. Typically, they go on sale for 4700-6500 points about a month before their time. This compares with the 40K points per year for our Ocean City, MD week (that cost us about $2000, maybe 2500 with closing costs, 750MF). There is a 259 exchange fee, and our favorite, Massanutten Mountainside Villas, charges a 70 dollar/week resort fee, but overall it seems like a good deal for us. We generally have an excess of points that have to be used, so I don't count their value and figure the whole deal is 259+70. It's offseason, but we're not interested in prime time.


I just checked and see weeks up to June 5-12 going for 4700 points for Massanutten Mountainside Villas. They have summer weeks listed for 70K. The same deer will be there for either time. Since you're near OCMD, the office at Ocean HIgh generally has a list of 2K-ish weeks that could provide 40-50K for this purpose and might be worth checking out if in the neighborhood. They have a perk of selling owners offseason weeks for 250, Oct-April 30 that actually works for us better that real trades. We are on both Interval and RCI. From our perspective in the northeast, II is good for cheap weeks in Atlantic City throughout the year, along with certificates that sometimes work for the Catskills and Poconos. RCI is good for Massanutten, Ocean City (home resort) and for foraging for deals that show up here and there. We got Cape Cod Holiday Estates last year for around 6500 points in May, which goes for 70K-ish in the summer. Got Outer Banks Beach Club for late May this year for 7500 points (65000 for most of the summer). We don't really have a lot of big time targets in our area for either system, and have actually divested our VA Beach week with DRI. I like playing the game with the points though.
 
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I just checked and see weeks up to June 5-12 going for 4700 points for Massanutten Mountainside Villas. They have summer weeks listed for 70K. The same deer will be there for either time. Since you're near OCMD, the office at Ocean HIgh generally has a list of 2K-ish weeks that could provide 40-50K for this purpose and might be worth checking out if you happen to be in the neighborhood. We are on both Interval and RCI. From our perspective in the northeast, II is good for cheap weeks in Atlantic City throughout the year, along with certificates that sometimes work for the Catskills and Poconos. RCI is good for Massanutten, Ocean City (home resort) and for foraging for deals that show up here and there. We got Cape Cod Holiday Estates last year for around 6500 points in May, which goes for 70K-ish in the summer. Got Outer Banks Beach Club for late May this year for 7500 points (65000 for most of the summer). We don't really have a lot of big time targets in our area for either system, but have found our own way to play the game.
 

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Hello all,
I live in VA and just got back from Massanutten like a lot of people I have seen. The offer I got was $11000 of a 2Bed/2Bath previously owned timeshare. They also added a second week for “free” as well as a free lifetime Gold Card with no annual fees on the Gold Card. They said the gold card valued at $7k. Is anyone familiar with the gold card? Is it worth it or should I decline the timeshare and go buy one online for $1.00 or something like that?

Joshua, I just reread your first post. (Bold type is mine) Sorry if I misread previously. Did you NOT purchase? If you didn't, then don't, for all the above posted reasons. If you DID purchase, rescind while you can, also for all the above posted reasons. Do your research, and THEN make a smart purchase, if you decide that's the best decision for you.

Dave
 

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I do enjoy the extra vacations I get on RCI, II and SFX. I have been able to get many cheap trips over the years, definitely below the MF cost. Recently I picked up a Wapato Point 2 bed week that we used for fishing for $550. We picked up a 2 bed Eagle Crest for $399 or so last year. Over the years we probably picked up a dozen cheap weeks. I think these are what the resort sales team try to use as an example of going to nice resorts for very little cost. The truth about these weeks are they are left overs that no one exchange.

Since there is a learning curve to owning timeshares I don't recommend buying one until a person knows what they are buying and how to use it. That is where Tug comes in.

Bill
 

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They were telling you the truth, examples of which are:

  1. Vail or other ski destinations in late April after skiing is closed;
  2. Maryland beach destinations in January or February; and
  3. Occassionally some good stuff.

A free unit in the bargain listings will give you access to a RCI membership, which will give you the same privileges. Don't pay $11K
Most the good stuff is often last minute, so if you can be flexible with spur of the moment travel you can get some amazing deals.
 

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Hello all,
I live in VA and just got back from Massanutten like a lot of people I have seen. The offer I got was $11000 of a 2Bed/2Bath previously owned timeshare. They also added a second week for “free” as well as a free lifetime Gold Card with no annual fees on the Gold Card. They said the gold card valued at $7k. Is anyone familiar with the gold card? Is it worth it or should I decline the timeshare and go buy one online for $1.00 or something like that?
Rescind. You can buy for $1
 
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