New Kings Land Owner Need Help

[lake123]

Hello all,

So, I won an auction from eBay in early April 2016. And yesterday (finally), i was told the transfer has finally completed and I finally is able to get my HGVC account signed up, look around, and found out that my 10,500 points at the KingsLand is a GOLD season, not a PLATINUM. The seller posted on eBay as "Weeks 1-52", which I was told that it is PLATINUM.

After 4 months long to complete the transfer, what can I do? If it is GOLD, then i am paying way too much for this. I cannot cancel it now, can I? :-(

 

[Cyberc]

Welcome to the forum.

This is an unfortunate situation, I was however in kinda of the situation as you. Sumdayvacation sold me one week at one resort but deeded me another at a different resort.

They however took it back no question asked. IF they haven't I would have made a charge back with my credit card company, I only pay by credit card no wirering of money. Then they could have done the paperwork afterwards. This is assuming you contract states platinum and not gold. If all the paperwork says gold or indicate was is a gold week it may by difficult since you signed those papers. If it's only on eBay they claim platinum then I would try and open a dispute but since it is real a state I don't know if they will cover it.

You could also ask for a partial refund?
The estoppel normally indicate what you have purchased - what does it says?

Regards.

 

[Jason245]

Hello all,

So, I won an auction from eBay in early April 2016. And yesterday (finally), i was told the transfer has finally completed and I finally is able to get my HGVC account signed up, look around, and found out that my 10,500 points at the KingsLand is a GOLD season, not a PLATINUM. The seller posted on eBay as "Weeks 1-52", which I was told that it is PLATINUM.

After 4 months long to complete the transfer, what can I do? If it is GOLD, then i am paying way too much for this. I cannot cancel it now, can I? :-(

Before signing anything did you ask for the estoppel letter? What does the sales agreement say? Generally it should list the specific interval being purchased. If it lists an interval that is different then the one you were given, then you may have legal grounds.

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[NewTSerInFL]

If the auction stated the points amount and the annual maintenance fee correctly, then I think Gold vs Platinum shouldn't really matter.

 

[presley]

Did the ad say Platinum? Platinum is not the full weeks of 1 - 52. You can book weeks 1 - 52 no matter what you own, but the dates you can begin booking will be different. If the ad said Platinum, you may have a leg to stand on. If it didn't, I doubt you can do anything about it.

 

[lake123]

Thank you everyone for the comments and opinions.

Reading thru my contract, I just realized now that the seller never stated if it is GOLD or PLATINUM. On the purchase contract and eBay post, he stated that it is the ANNUAL FLOAT WEEK 1-52, which I read somewhere that it is the same (or imply) that it is PLATINUM. I am new to this so i didn't know what to ask and didn't know what estoppel letter is. Even on HGVC website, the only place that would show the season is when i tried to book the reservation at the home site.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4CMaO3ytX8Zb2gySmZSZXNmNmM/view?usp=sharing

@Cyberc, it is too late to make any exchange since the deed has been recorded with the county.

 

[SmithOp]

It should not make a difference at Kingsland, you can book any week you want there at 9 months, plenty of availability.

The issue would be the price you paid, gold season points are usually a little cheaper than platinum points.

If you book your home gold week that is a premier 2br (top floor) vs the standard 1st floor platinum your points will get in platinum. Families with kids usually prefer the standard rooms so the kids can play on the grassy area right off the lanai.


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[lake123]

Thank you Smith.

I paid ~$6K for it, not including the $800 fee. Exactly, the point is cheaper. I would not have bid at all if I've known it is GOLD since my two young kids are still in school we only can take vacation yearly during the first week of August, which is only available for PLATINUM season.

I read on this site that i should have 12 in advance to reserve a unit at my home site. Currently, when i look at the time in the Reservation under my homesite, the only months available are Aug to Dec. 2015 and Jan to May 2016, which are about 9 months. Is that because my homesite unit is GOLD, not PLATINUM?

Thank you so much,

 

[presley]

I read on this site that i should have 12 in advance to reserve a unit at my home site. Currently, when i look at the time in the Reservation under my homesite, the only months available are Aug to Dec. 2015 and Jan to May 2016, which are about 9 months. Is that because my homesite unit is GOLD, not PLATINUM?

For the 12 month reservation, you can only book exactly what you own. If you own a 2 bedroom, gold season, standard view unit, that is the only thing you can book. You'd need to book a 2 bedroom standard view for a full week during gold season. Usually the check in day would be a Saturday. Likewise, if you own a 1 bedroom premiere unit, that would be the only thing you could book at 12 months out during the season that you own.

You can book anything outside of what you own at 9 months out. So, if you want August, you can book that 9 months before the check in date and you'd be able to book any size/view unit for any # of days that you want.

The website has an option for booking home week reservation. That may help you see exactly what you could book at the 12 month window. Room type matters. If 12 months from now isn't a gold season, you won't be able to book it.

 

[SmithOp]

You will be making a club booking at 9 months to get August, should not be a problem getting a standard 2 br.

That's a good price for 10,500 pts.

 

[rfc0001]

Lemme guess... seller was Redweeks4less/premiervacationmarketing/expressgetaways-06/jqtravel844 on eBay (IA Vacations) and their title company (VP Title)? They reportedly do this all the time. Regardless, if the seller was a broker, report to any and all authorities/regulatory agencies.

 

[lake123]

For the 12 month reservation, you can only book exactly what you own. If you own a 2 bedroom, gold season, standard view unit, that is the only thing you can book. You'd need to book a 2 bedroom standard view for a full week during gold season. Usually the check in day would be a Saturday. Likewise, if you own a 1 bedroom premiere unit, that would be the only thing you could book at 12 months out during the season that you own.

You can book anything outside of what you own at 9 months out. So, if you want August, you can book that 9 months before the check in date and you'd be able to book any size/view unit for any # of days that you want.

The website has an option for booking home week reservation. That may help you see exactly what you could book at the 12 month window. Room type matters. If 12 months from now isn't a gold season, you won't be able to book it.

Thank you, Presley!!! Now, I am heck of confused. What!?

If you don't mind me asking. So, you are saying there is NO different between the GOLD and PLATINUM season? So, in Nov. 2015, I can book the Aug 2016, even though my points are for the GOLD season? Will it still be taking the same# points off from my account?

"...could book at 12 months out during the season that you own..". So, because it is August (PLATINUM season), is that why i can only book 9 months out? Then in Jan. 2016, I will be able to see / book 12 months out on my reservation?

Please excuse me for asking so many questions. I am so new to this HGVC club member / TS owner.

Thank you so much!!!

 

[lake123]

You will be making a club booking at 9 months to get August, should not be a problem getting a standard 2 br.

That's a good price for 10,500 pts.

Hello Mr. Smith (sorry if i have your name wrong),

So, in Nov. 2015, I can book for 1st week of Aug. 2016 with 10,500 pts?

Thank you!!!

 

[lake123]

Lemme guess... seller was Redweeks4less/premiervacationmarketing/expressgetaways-06/jqtravel844 on eBay (IA Vacations) and their title company (VP Title)? They reportedly do this all the time. Regardless, if the seller was a broker, report to any and all authorities/regulatory agencies.

I am still investigating. Sorry, I don't want to just point him out yet. His name has been talk about on tugbbs several times as a reputable broker. It may have been his oversight. If the different between GOLD and PLATINUM is only the 9 months or 12 months advance reservation, then I am not going to make a big deal out of it.

 

[Blues]

So, in Nov. 2015, I can book for 1st week of Aug. 2016 with 10,500 pts?

Yes. Outside of home resort season, which is very restrictive as you can see above, points are points are points. You can book anything, anywhere, any time, as long as you have (or can borrow) the points.

Many of us (me included) have never used home resort season. We just use the points wherever and whenever we wish.

Welcome to the club. I think you'll enjoy it.

Bob

 

[lake123]

Yes. Outside of home resort season, which is very restrictive as you can see above, points are points are points. You can book anything, anywhere, any time, as long as you have (or can borrow) the points.

Many of us (me included) have never used home resort season. We just use the points wherever and whenever we wish.

Welcome to the club. I think you'll enjoy it.

Bob

Thank you so much, sir! I feel a little relief.

So, the only different between GOLD and PLATINUM is 9 months vs 12 months off for the home-site reservation? Is that it!? If so, why does everyone keep saying to get the PLATINUM season and avoid the GOLD season? Also, i notice that the GOLD season on eBay is a lot cheaper than the PLATINUM season. No one seems to be bidding on the GOLD season timeshare. uhm... That does seems to make sense. Many people are as confused as me?

 

[Cyberc]

Thank you so much, sir! I feel a little relief.

So, the only different between GOLD and PLATINUM is 9 months vs 12 months off for the home-site reservation? Is that it!? If so, why does everyone keep saying to get the PLATINUM season and avoid the GOLD season? Also, i notice that the GOLD season on eBay is a lot cheaper than the PLATINUM season. No one seems to be bidding on the GOLD season timeshare. uhm... That does seems to make sense. Many people are as confused as me?

The difference is the points you get and the points you need to use to book a platinum week. So if a 2br costs 7000pts to book in platinum season the same unit only cost 5000 pts to book in gold season. They cost the same in yearly mf.

The upfront cost are also different since you get more points with a platinum week than with a gold week.

The general recommendations is that you should buy a platinum season week since you get more points than you would get if you bought the same size unit as a gold season week. The yearly mf is the same for a 2br no matter if it's a silver, gold or platinum week.

But as with everything else it depends on how much money upfront you would like to spend. If you don't got that much money a gold season week could be ok, as long as you know what you are buying.


Regards.

 

[bnoble]

Take a look at the point charts. If I'm reading them correctly, with 10,500, it looks like you either have a first floor 2BR platinum in phase 1, or a 3rd floor 2BR gold in phase 1. Either way, probably a decent $/point ratio (and they might even be the same for all I know) and enough points to book a 2BR in at least some section of the resort for any week of the year, possibly with (many) points leftover if you book in phase 2.

 

[Emi]

Hi

You paid a good price for the number of points you received. Except for major holiday weeks, it is usually available at the 9 months club reservation. If you had purchased in Platinum season, you have the 3 additional month advantage to make reservations. But the 10500 points for standard unit would have cost more than you paid.

When making reservations, you can not make the full week reservation till the last date of the reservation. In other words if you want August 1 to 8, you will not be able to make the reservation till November 8th. What some of us do is reserve partial week first , like 3 or 4 days than change it to 7 days when the rest opens up. You will need to pay the reservation fee in club because you are reserving something you do not own. I believe changes are free if it is done on the website not by phone call to rep ( tuggers pls correct if I am incorrect). This 2 step process is probably not necessary if it's not a high demand week or you have flexibilty in the dates. Do mark your calendar and make the reservation as soon as it is available. Kingsland phase 1 is almost sold out so units will be less available.

Enjoy your ownership

 

[lake123]

Hi,

Thank you Emi and all for your responses. This is all new to me. There is still a lot i don't understand. Does anyone know the HGVC For Dummy book? Even though the deal is not what i expected, but seems like you all are telling me that it is a good deal and I should not complaint.

I have been reading up about HGVC for a little bit. One day in April, I woke up from the hospital bed in the mid of the night (from 100mg of PREDNOSONE - Steroid), went on-line, and bid the deal at the last minutes before it ended and won, not knowing much of what the heck the deal I am getting.

I just have to wait and see, and learn along the way! I guess.

Thank you all so much!!!

 

[presley]

Thank you Emi and all for your responses. This is all new to me. There is still a lot i don't understand. Does anyone know the HGVC For Dummy book? Even though the deal is not what i expected, but seems like you all are telling me that it is a good deal and I should not complaint.

I think it was a good purchase and that you will get great use out of at that amount of points.

The place I got the best information on how it all works was in Tugbbs. It's not in these forums, but in the red bar at the top of this page. There are long, detailed articles about all the timeshare systems.