MVCI Increased Exchange Bonvoy Points for Weeks [MERGED]

[DRH90277]

Seems like a pretty good acknowledgement of the way Marriott devalued Bonvoy points right in front of us. Now Marriott Vacation Club comes to us and want our weeks for points. So long Bonvoy, I've moved on to better programs and I'm not coming back. Could it be that they will give us more points and then just increase the number of points on the points spend side - I've seen this before.

 

[davidvel]

Seems like a pretty good acknowledgement of the way Marriott devalued Bonvoy points right in front of us. Now Marriott Vacation Club comes to us and want our weeks for points. So long Bonvoy, I've moved on to better programs and I'm not coming back. Could it be that they will give us more points and then just increase the number of points on the points spend side - I've seen this before.

We have a winner!

 

[AlmostRetired]

Seems like a pretty good acknowledgement of the way Marriott devalued Bonvoy points right in front of us. Now Marriott Vacation Club comes to us and want our weeks for points. So long Bonvoy, I've moved on to better programs and I'm not coming back. Could it be that they will give us more points and then just increase the number of points on the points spend side - I've seen this before.

I absolutely understand how you feel and why you feel that way.

Been with the Bonvoy Rewards program since it was called HGA (Honored Guest Rewards). The most attractive exchange option for my the Monarch when I purchased Marriott resale in 1996 was the 130K HGA for my MF of under 400. 130K was enough for 7 nights at any Marriott in the world. in 2001, 420,000 points or little more than 3 years MF of around $1500 got me a travel package that included 4 round trip tickets anywhere in the world AA or AA partner flew plus two 7 day hotel stay. We did a week in London. week in Paris and 8 days driving around Spain. The value was at least 3 cents a point probably more. Second best use of points to me was the points for Southwest companion offer which was great when you have a hub close by. In December my wife and i may be going to the Marriott in Grand Cayman. 265K pointsaver use for 7 nights saving a cost of $2800 give or take.

The devaluation was a drip, drip, drip before just opening up the valve from time to time the last 7 years. The points are no longer a motivation. I have peaked out with lifetime platinum status so night stays is not a motivation to me. I still see value in room upgrades, lounge access , free breakfasts and my IBM retirement discounts. When I think of moving to another loyalty program, a line from the Al Pacino movie "A Scent of a Women" comes to mind "I am too old, I am too tired".

 

[pedro47]

I am also too old, and I am also too tired to learn another loyalty program .
To AlmostRetired your post was 100% on target for an old man. IMHO

 

[Fasttr]

2 months after this thread started, I just received an email from MVC about 50% more Bonvoy points now available for my MGO week.

 

[Superchief]

2 months after this thread started, I just received an email from MVC about 50% more Bonvoy points now available for my MGO week.

I just received 3 emails today about 50% more points for my Ocean Pointe, Oceana Palms, and Newport Coast weeks. Since they are silver and gold, I never got sufficient points for those weeks so this offer has no appeal to me. Royal Palms was my only resort that I had previously redeemed for 110k points when they were worth more, but it appears they aren't offering increase for any of the Palms.

 

[Norcal5]

I just received 3 emails today about 50% more points for my Ocean Pointe, Oceana Palms, and Newport Coast weeks. Since they are silver and gold, I never got sufficient points for those weeks so this offer has no appeal to me. Royal Palms was my only resort that I had previously redeemed for 110k points when they were worth more, but it appears they aren't offering increase for any of the Palms.

Him many points do you now get for your Newport Gold?

 

[daviator]

I got the email today about 50% increase for my Maui Ocean Club week. But I’m unable to see if the value has increased on the website. It was such a poor value before that I don’t even remember what the Bonvoy value was, I just remember it was bad.

It doesn’t seem right if they’re increasing values for some properties and not others. After all, the devaluation of Bonvoy points affects everyone equally. Everyone's Bonvoy conversion value has decreased at an equal rate even as the actual number of points has Stayed the same.

I am hopeful that a similar increase is coming for my Vistana weeks but have not heard any news on that front.

 

[daviator]

I got an email from MVC stating that the Bonvoy point conversion value of my week at MMOC would increase by 50% beginning in 2025. Welcome news – although it’s still not the greatest conversion in the world, it does sort of restore the value of that conversion back to where it was a decade or so ago.

Does anyone know if this change is coming for Vistana properties too? Our Bonvoy conversion values used to be a lot better than they are today, due to the devaluation in Bonvoy points as redemption costs have soared. A 50% increase would still not make this a great conversion value, but it would be a lot better than it is today. In my view, it would take the conversion value from “laughably bad” to just poor.

 

[DanCali]

I misread at first, but sounds like it's Bonvoy points not Abound.

I guess that's possible but I have not received that email. Maybe I missed it.

Or maybe it's just certain resorts?

 

[dioxide45]

I got the email today about 50% increase for my Maui Ocean Club week. But I’m unable to see if the value has increased on the website. It was such a poor value before that I don’t even remember what the Bonvoy value was, I just remember it was bad.

It doesn’t seem right if they’re increasing values for some properties and not others. After all, the devaluation of Bonvoy points affects everyone equally. Everyone's Bonvoy conversion value has decreased at an equal rate even as the actual number of points has Stayed the same.

I am hopeful that a similar increase is coming for my Vistana weeks but have not heard any news on that front.

They probably only want to offer the increased fees for resorts where MVC is looking to obtain more cash rental or promo inventory. All the weeks converted to Bonvoy points get put on Marriott.com for rental or offered up for promotional and Encore packages. They probably have a glut of this at certain resorts and not so much at others.

 

[Mroze]

Even a 100% increase [Double] would be bad value.

Example: Currently, I give up a 2BR in Hawaii and I get 1-Night in a Studio [Hotel-Room]. A 100% improvement could be 2-Nights in a Studio.
Even a 400% increase [4-Nights] in a Studio would be bad value.

 

[dioxide45]

There is already a thread about this on the Marriott side.

MVCI Increased Exchange Bonvoy Points for Weeks

Interesting, thought a lousy exchange. MVCI increase the exchange for Bonvoy points for summer Monarch from 130K per year to 195K per year. I believe this has been done at all resorts. This was posted on a Monarch FB group and the person confirmed it when the exchange was made.

tugbbs.com

 

[mjm1]

We just received this notice from MVC for Ko Olina, Maui Ocean Club, Aruba Ocean Club and Newport Coast. Did anyone else receive a similar email? We’ve never elected Bonvoy points because the value hasn’t been there. I don’t think we would with the new amounts either, but at least they are making it more appealing (or less unappealing.) We also own at DSV1, but haven’t received an email regarding that resort. Perhaps they are being selective, which makes sense based on demand.
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Starting with the 2025 Use Year, you’ll receive 50% more Marriott Bonvoy® points when you trade your eligible Week(s) at Marriott's Newport Coast Villas.

You can view the new number of Marriott Bonvoy points you’ll receive on your Owner website. If you have already traded your 2025 Week(s) for Marriott Bonvoy points, you will receive the new, higher number of points.
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[Fasttr]

MVCI Increased Exchange Bonvoy Points for Weeks

Interesting, thought a lousy exchange. MVCI increase the exchange for Bonvoy points for summer Monarch from 130K per year to 195K per year. I believe this has been done at all resorts. This was posted on a Monarch FB group and the person confirmed it when the exchange was made.

tugbbs.com

 

[mjm1]

Moderator, would you please merge these threads?

 

[SueDonJ]

Mentioned in this thread:
Aruba Ocean Club
Aruba Surf Club (according to a FaceBook post)
Grande Ocean
Ko Olina Beach Club
Maui Ocean Club (is this both MMO and MM1?)
Monarch
Newport Coast Villas (is this both I and II?)
Ocean Pointe
Oceana Palms

Do any of the letters that you all have gotten about these specific resorts give an explanation for how/why the BONVOY Points allotments have been increased? Is it an in-house MVW/MVC action? Collaboration/new agreement between those specific resorts and/or MVC/MVW and Marriott, Int'l? Something else?

I'd like to send a letter to the Executive levels at both MVW and MI asking for an explanation - and whether direct-sold Weeks at the other MVC resorts can expect similar increases - but I want to appear as though I have some idea of what I'm talking about.

*** I can't access the Bonvoy allotments for my specific Weeks on the website, I think because my 2025 Weeks have already been elected for Abound Points? But what's interesting is that clicking on "Use My Weeks" for 2026 doesn't show a Bonvoy exchange option even for my Weeks that are eligible annually. Is there a Bonvoy Points election window opening?

 

[davidvel]

*** I can't access the Bonvoy allotments for my specific Weeks on the website, I think because my 2025 Weeks have already been elected for Abound Points? But what's interesting is that clicking on "Use My Weeks" for 2026 doesn't show a Bonvoy exchange option even for my Weeks that are eligible annually. Is there a Bonvoy Points election window opening?

Same for me. I noticed this over the weekend and just thought I was looking in the wrong place. Not at all surprised though.

 

[mjm1]

I was able to confirm the following via a phone rep (where amounts added):

Aruba Ocean Club- 1BROV= 150,000 EOY
Aruba Surf Club (according to a FaceBook post)
Grande Ocean
Ko Olina Beach Club- 2BROV= 165,000 EOY
Maui Ocean Club (is this both MMO and MM1?)
MM1 (Lahaina/Napili)- 2BROF= 202,500 EOY
Monarch
Newport Coast Villas (is this both I and II?)- 165,000 EOY
Ocean Pointe
Oceana Palms

In addition, I confirmed that DSV1 did not change, so it is still 125,000 EOY for a 2BR. I assume the same for DSV II.

 

[Superchief]

Mentioned in this thread:
Aruba Ocean Club
Aruba Surf Club (according to a FaceBook post)
Grande Ocean
Ko Olina Beach Club
Maui Ocean Club (is this both MMO and MM1?)
Monarch
Newport Coast Villas (is this both I and II?)
Ocean Pointe
Oceana Palms

Do any of the letters that you all have gotten about these specific resorts give an explanation for how/why the BONVOY Points allotments have been increased? Is it an in-house MVW/MVC action? Collaboration/new agreement between those specific resorts and/or MVC/MVW and Marriott, Int'l? Something else?

I'd like to send a letter to the Executive levels at both MVW and MI asking for an explanation - and whether direct-sold Weeks at the other MVC resorts can expect similar increases - but I want to appear as though I have some idea of what I'm talking about.

*** I can't access the Bonvoy allotments for my specific Weeks on the website, I think because my 2025 Weeks have already been elected for Abound Points? But what's interesting is that clicking on "Use My Weeks" for 2026 doesn't show a Bonvoy exchange option even for my Weeks that are eligible annually. Is there a Bonvoy Points election window opening?

I received emails about this for Newport Coast, Ocean Pointe and Oceana Palms but there were no specifics about how many Bonvoy points would be provided for each. I've also already committed all of my 2025 usage selections and nothing shows for 2026. I really don't remember how many points were provided in the past because it was a very poor value for my weeks, so I doubt I will use this option in the future when 160k points gets you 4 nights in a mid-market Courtyard. My 110k MR points for Royal Palms was a great option in the good old days when it got me 7 nights at any Marriott resort worldwide, plus 2 roundtrip tickets on Delta and a one week rental at Hertz. I think a BOGO 7 night cruise was also included at one time.

 

[ljmiii]

Is there a Bonvoy Points election window opening?

Yes. You should be able to see your 2026 Bonvoy Point values on 1/1/25. I’m curious to see what my GV 1BR will be worth.

 

[dioxide45]

Yes. You should be able to see your 2026 Bonvoy Point values on 1/1/25. I’m curious to see what my GV 1BR will be worth.

Someone who owns a MGV 1BR? That is like seeing a real life unicorn!

 

[ljmiii]

Someone who owns a MGV 1BR? That is like seeing a real life unicorn!

Yup. Until very recently trading for Bonvoy Points was a good deal (since I get 100K points, the MFs were less than $1K, and I always get at least a penny a point).