Mokulele Flight Molokai to Maui and Back

[slip]

My wife was kidding about our flights on Mokulele this week. She said that we flew first class on Mokulele because this was the first time we were ever seated in the first row.

This flight home tonight was the first time I had flown on Mokulele at night. It wasn't totally dark until we almost got to Molokai but I got a nice shot of the sun behind the clouds. I took a few videos of our flight to Maui also.

 

[SandyPGravel]

Curious if it's the cost difference between flying and the ferry between those two islands or the time savings for you? (At least I thought I saw a ferry option out of Lahaina )

 

[Luanne]

Curious if it's the cost difference between flying and the ferry between those two islands or the time savings for you? (At least I thought I saw a ferry option out of Lahaina )

I thought the ferry had been discontinued quite awhile ago. However it does show a schedule online.

 

[slip]

Curious if it's the cost difference between flying and the ferry between those two islands or the time savings for you? (At least I thought I saw a ferry option out of Lahaina )

I thought the ferry had been discontinued quite awhile ago. However it does show a schedule online.

Luanne's correct, no ferry to Molokai. I believe it stopped in 2015. After I took the ferry from Lahaina to Lanai, I would definitely use it if it came to Molokai. It would be about twice as long but about a third of the cost.

 

[SandyPGravel]

Luanne's correct, no ferry to Molokai. I believe it stopped in 2015. After I took the ferry from Lahaina to Lanai, I would definitely use it if it came to Molokai. It would be about twice as long but about a third of the cost.

Wow, good thing I didn't try to book the ferry I would have been disappointed when I showed up in December!

 

[slip]

Wow, good thing I didn't try to book the ferry I would have been disappointed when I showed up in December!

Yep, you have to book Mokulele, see you in December.

 

[Tamaradarann]

Luanne's correct, no ferry to Molokai. I believe it stopped in 2015. After I took the ferry from Lahaina to Lanai, I would definitely use it if it came to Molokai. It would be about twice as long but about a third of the cost.

We always get to the airport 3 hours early for all of our flights. I believe that for interisland that is excessive but we are in a habbit of doing it. When you take Mokulele do you need to get to the airport really early to go through security like the other airlines? If you do even though the ferry might take twice as long to actually travel to Lanai, not having the pre-boarding ordeal certainly would make the ferry to travel time from home to hotel shorter.

 

[slip]

We always get to the airport 3 hours early for all of our flights. I believe that for interisland that is excessive but we are in a habbit of doing it. When you take Mokulele do you need to get to the airport really early to go through security like the other airlines? If you do even though the ferry might take twice as long to actually travel to Lanai, not having the pre-boarding ordeal certainly would make the ferry to travel time from home to hotel shorter.

No TSA for Mokulele and there is a maximum of 9 people on most of their planes so boarding is extremely quick. In general, we try to get there about 45 minutes before the flight to check in.

it took much longer for the ferry to board compared to a Mokulele flight.

 

[pedro47]

Was that a photo of the pilot, from your first class seat? Wow! You were truly flying first class.LOL

 

[slip]

Was that a photo of the pilot, from your first class seat? Wow! You were truly flying first class.LOL

Yep, that was the pilot.

 

[pedro47]

Good morning slip, you are an early riser. It is 6:38 AM in Virginia. LOL

 

[slip]

Good morning slip, you are an early riser. It is 6:38 AM in Virginia. LOL

No, I was staying up late. I just got up now.

 

[Tamaradarann]

No TSA for Mokulele and there is a maximum of 9 people on most of their planes so boarding is extremely quick. In general, we try to get there about 45 minutes before the flight to check in.

it took much longer for the ferry to board compared to a Mokulele flight.

I believe I remember riding in a Mokulele plane when we went to Molokai about 10 years ago and your correct there was no TSA almost like a private plane. I recall thinking how do they get away with no TSA? Is the 9 people max the reason no TSA?

So when you get to the airport do you check bags. If I remember all we had was a carry on so we didn't need to check bags but our carry on was too big to go on the plane and the took it from us and put in in storage for no charge. What do you need to do when you get to the airport but show them your ticket and get on the plane. Boarding must take all of 3 minutes. It took my husband longer to load the car for a trip up state.

 

[slip]

I believe I remember riding in a Mokulele plane when we went to Molokai about 10 years ago and your correct there was no TSA almost like a private plane. I recall thinking how do they get away with no TSA? Is the 9 people max the reason no TSA?

So when you get to the airport do you check bags. If I remember all we had was a carry on so we didn't need to check bags but our carry on was too big to go on the plane and the took it from us and put in in storage for no charge. What do you need to do when you get to the airport but show them your ticket and get on the plane. Boarding must take all of 3 minutes. It took my husband longer to load the car for a trip up state.

I don't really know if there is a cutoff number wise with the TSA. I knoiw there was TSA for Hawaiian when they flew out of Molokai but the smaller carriers didn't have to use TSA at that time either.

Mokulele has some 30 seat planes. They only go back and forth from Molokai and Oahu right now. My wife had one of those on a recent trip and there was no TSA for that one either.

Yes, we often check bags but we have a corporate account with them and get 2 free checked bags. Otherwise, it's $20 a bag.

You don't get a ticket. You just go up to the checkin and tell them your name and give them your bags. When the plane is ready they announce it over the PA and you walk over to the gate and then they call out names starting with row 1. Then you line up as you are called and then walk to the plane. It happens really fast.

We have had flights with only one or two other people besides us on flights. It is like a private plane and it's nice that every seat is a window seat. The flights range from 15 to 30 minutes, with most averaging 20 to 25 minutes. The route they take depends on the winds/weather.

We are all set for Kim's eye surgery trip on June 16th. We come back the 21st so we'll have a few days to wander around the old neighborhood. Kim is walking so much better and she's looking forward to visiting some old sites she hasn't been to or felt like going to while she wasn't doing well.

 

[daventrina]

I don't really know if there is a cutoff number wise with the TSA. I knoiw there was TSA for Hawaiian when they flew out of Molokai but the smaller carriers didn't have to use TSA at that time either.

I believe that Mokulele operates a a Part 135 charter flight while Hawaiian operates as a Part 121 flight.

 

[slip]

I believe that Mokulele operates a a Part 135 charter flight while Hawaiian operates as a Part 121 flight.

Whatever that means.

 

[Passepartout]

Whatever that means.

This is what it means. Has to do with how the carrier operates:
FAA Part 135 is a certificate required by the Federal Aviation Administration for a company to operate as a non-scheduled air charter carrier1. It establishes safe operating procedures and policies for on-demand jet charters1. Part 135 operators can be classified as basic or standard, depending on the size and scope of their operations2. Part 135 operators must comply with specific regulations regarding flight operations, aircraft proving tests, pilot records, and hazardous materials

and:
FAA Part 121 is a certification and a set of regulations for scheduled air carriers, such as large airlines, regional air carriers, and cargo operators1234. The certification process ensures that the applicant complies with safety standards and regulations4. The regulations cover various aspects of domestic, flag, and supplemental operations

It defines the difference beween a private plane, a for-hire carrier of passengers, or a scheduled airline.

 

[slip]

This is what it means. Has to do with how the carrier operates:
FAA Part 135 is a certificate required by the Federal Aviation Administration for a company to operate as a non-scheduled air charter carrier1. It establishes safe operating procedures and policies for on-demand jet charters1. Part 135 operators can be classified as basic or standard, depending on the size and scope of their operations2. Part 135 operators must comply with specific regulations regarding flight operations, aircraft proving tests, pilot records, and hazardous materials

and:
FAA Part 121 is a certification and a set of regulations for scheduled air carriers, such as large airlines, regional air carriers, and cargo operators1234. The certification process ensures that the applicant complies with safety standards and regulations4. The regulations cover various aspects of domestic, flag, and supplemental operations

It defines the difference beween a private plane, a for-hire carrier of passengers, or a scheduled airline.

I suppose that could be it. It doesn't mention TSA but that could be in there someplace else.

 

[Passepartout]

I suppose that could be it. It doesn't mention TSA but that could be in there someplace else.

It doesn't matter all that much to regular flyers, but does spell out that charter operators are not subject to TSA inspection like scheduled service, and Mokulele operates like a charter.

 

[slip]

It doesn't matter all that much to regular flyers, but does spell out that charter operators are not subject to TSA inspection like scheduled service, and Mokulele operates like a charter.

That makes sense then.

 

[daventrina]

It doesn't matter all that much to regular flyers, but does spell out that charter operators are not subject to TSA inspection like scheduled service, and Mokulele operates like a charter.

And if that isn't complicates enough many air tours are operated under Part 91. They must be non-stop, same departure and arrival location, must operate within a 25-mile radius departure location, and be approved by the local FAA office.