Marriott's Shadow Ridge

[dioxide45]

We are at Shadow Ridge right now. I get the feeling it is the Grande Vista of the desert. Similar golf setup with a Nick Faldo course and The Grill. It seems it was planned to be very large at over 900 units, but only seems about half built and the remaining land is now for sale. Does anyone know the status of the resort. The old numbers that I have indicate 500 units were built with 487 additional planned. Though I am not sure if that was before Enclaves was built out. Also, what is with Enclaves? This is the section we are in and we really like it, but why the different section and architecture? Rooms seem kind of small, but we really do kind of like the configuration of the 2BR. Just looking for some information on how many units they actually have here. I could call up the front desk, but they have a tendency to tell you how many keys vs how many sellable units a resort has.

 

[Fasttr]

The link in post 3 linked below says 569 built, 430 unbuilt.

Number of units at each resort

Is there a spreadsheet or similar listing for all of the Marriott resorts with the number of each type of unit? For instance, I am wondering how Canyon Villas compares for number of units vs. Desert Springs I. I know it is smaller, but such a spreadsheet comparison for all resorts would be...

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[dioxide45]

The link in post 3 linked below says 569 built, 430 unbuilt.

Number of units at each resort

Is there a spreadsheet or similar listing for all of the Marriott resorts with the number of each type of unit? For instance, I am wondering how Canyon Villas compares for number of units vs. Desert Springs I. I know it is smaller, but such a spreadsheet comparison for all resorts would be...

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Thanks, I did try combing through old financial statements from VAC because I know that is where my data came from initially. I even commented on this thread from 2017 but never updated my records. It looks like my numbers were prior to Enclaves. It looks like with Enclaves they added 69 units but only decreased the planned units by 57. So why was Enclaves built the way it was. The design almost seems like an afterthought.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

Interesting about Marriott possibly trying to sell some excess land.

I own a Deluxe unit at the Enclaves. I've never been there. We have always stayed at the Villages. I suspect that I wouldn't like the smaller room size and sliding wall. But it trades very well. A little bit better than my Platinum/Red Desert Springs 2.

 

[dougp26364]

I don’t know the definitive answer about the different design, but as may be as simple as the same reason there are differences between DSV I and DSV II.

We stayed in an Enclaves unit once. For us that was enough. We had guests with us and found the sliding wall of the master suite offered very little insulation. I tend to get up earlier than most. I couldn’t watch TV without disturbing my wife. We also didn’t care for the tiny patio (ground floor unit) two chairs and a small table for a 2 bedroom unit with 4 adults made it impossible to enjoy.

I think after you spend a few nights in the unit, you’ll see the drawbacks to it. Ext time we’re in Palm Desert we’ll book any of the other three, but not Enclaves.

 

[jd2601]

I agree! the sliding wall gives little privacy. I feel this is more of a large studio then a true one bedroom unit.

We stayed in an Enclaves unit once. For us that was enough. We had guests with us and found the sliding wall of the master suite offered very little insulation. I tend to get up earlier than most. I couldn’t watch TV without disturbing my wife. We also didn’t care for the tiny patio (ground floor unit) two chairs and a small table for a 2 bedroom unit with 4 adults made it impossible to enjoy.

I think after you spend a few nights in the unit, you’ll see the drawbacks to it. Ext time we’re in Palm Desert we’ll book any of the other three, but not Enclaves.

 

[dioxide45]

I don’t know the definitive answer about the different design, but as may be as simple as the same reason there are differences between DSV I and DSV II.

We stayed in an Enclaves unit once. For us that was enough. We had guests with us and found the sliding wall of the master suite offered very little insulation. I tend to get up earlier than most. I couldn’t watch TV without disturbing my wife. We also didn’t care for the tiny patio (ground floor unit) two chairs and a small table for a 2 bedroom unit with 4 adults made it impossible to enjoy.

I think after you spend a few nights in the unit, you’ll see the drawbacks to it. Ext time we’re in Palm Desert we’ll book any of the other three, but not Enclaves.

We are on a top floor and I thought the patio was pretty big in the 2BR standard we are in, though it does just have the two loungerstyle chairs. Also no patio off the studio units would be a big drawback on those. I know they have some 1BR deluxe and 1BR standard. Do you know if you were in a standard or deluxe? I think some of these 2BR units lock off into two 1BR units vs just the 1BR and studio. I suspect it is a similar setup to how the deluxe 2BR units work at Lakeshore Reserve.

 

[dioxide45]

So there are a lot of different unit types here and I am trying to figure them all out. I think I have them all but don't know the difference between a standard studio and a deluxe studio. Here are the codes and how I think they tie into the point chart.

IVMT	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	1BR large portion of two master suite 2BR unit.
OVTM	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	1BR portion of 2BR unit.
OVTG	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	1BR small portion of two master suite 2BR unit.
TOVI	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	2BR dedicated unit.
ZZAD	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	2BR unit that can be locked off in to two 1BR master suites.
ZZAB	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	2BR unit that locks off in to 1BR and studio.
IVTG	Shadow Ridge Enclaves	N/A	Studio portion of 2BR unit.

IVTM - 1BR Deluxe
OVTM - 1BR Standard
OVTG - Studio Deluxe
TOVI - 2BR Standard
ZZAB - 2BR Standard
ZZAD - 2BR Deluxe
ZZAB - 1BR Standard
IVTG - Studio Standard

2BR Standard Dedicated Unit

2BR Deluxe Lock Off

I can't find a floorplan for the 2BR Standard Lock Off but it looks identical to the 2BR Standard Dedicated villa just with lock off doors and a king with pullout in the guest bedroom (studio side).

I looked at a number of floor plans via Google Search because Marriott Vacation Club doesn't even list this property separately on their website and they have no floor plans for the Enclaves. I am not really sure I have the 1BR portions or studio deluxe right. The 1BR side of the 2BR LO seems to look the same as the large 1BR of the 2BR Deluxe.

Do I have these right?

 

[dougp26364]

We are on a top floor and I thought the patio was pretty big in the 2BR standard we are in, though it does just have the two loungerstyle chairs. Also no patio off the studio units would be a big drawback on those. I know they have some 1BR deluxe and 1BR standard. Do you know if you were in a standard or deluxe? I think some of these 2BR units lock off into two 1BR units vs just the 1BR and studio. I suspect it is a similar setup to how the deluxe 2BR units work at Lakeshore Reserve.

If it were just my wife and I, it would likely have been fine, but with 4 people and only 2 chairs, it became pretty small