Marriott Maui Ocean club - 2 bdrm units

[Ricci]

I have an ongoing request for a 2 bedroom at Maui Ocean Club for next May. I called the resort to find out how many 2 bedroom units they have. I was transferred 4 times and finally got someone who had no idea how many there were. She was guessing over 100. Does anyone here know? I am just trying to decide if I should lower my expectations to a one bedroom. I am a Marriott owner.

 

[dougp26364]

I’m not certain the problem is a rarity of 2 bedroom units. I can often see availability of 2 bedroom units using DC points, although they’re more scarce than 1 bedroom units. I suspect the issue may be value related. MOC is a relatively expensive resort to own and I imagine it trades out well. Thus I suspect owners of 2 bedrooms trading out lock off those units to get two exchanges instead of one, maximizing their value. Marriott use to sell that benefit of lock off units pretty hard back in the day.

 

[controller1]

I have an ongoing request for a 2 bedroom at Maui Ocean Club for next May. I called the resort to find out how many 2 bedroom units they have. I was transferred 4 times and finally got someone who had no idea how many there were. She was guessing over 100. Does anyone here know? I am just trying to decide if I should lower my expectations to a one bedroom. I am a Marriott owner.

You may wish to ask a moderator to move your post to the Marriott forum where you may receive more responses than the general Hawaii forum.

 

[JIMinNC]

Here are the numbers for Maui Ocean Club:

Original Towers (limited kitchen; no washer/dryer):
1BR Ocean Front -- 18
1BR Ocean View -- 99
1BR Garden View -- 43
1BR Island View -- 20
TOTAL 1BR: 180
2BR Ocean Front -- 48
2BR Ocean View -- 44
2BR Mountain/Garden View -- 39
TOTAL 2BR: 131

Lahaina/Napili Towers (full kitchen; washer/dryer):
2BR Mountain/Garden View -- 20
2BR Ocean View -- 21
2BR Ocean Front -- 59
2BR Island View -- 26
TOTAL 2BR: 126
3BR Ocean Front -- 22

But as doug26364 said, the 2BR units are almost all lock-off units, so many owners will opt to lock-off to deposit two weeks with II if they choose to deposit to II instead of using the week or converting the week to use in Marriott's internal points system. Maui Ocean Club weeks get very generous point allocations, so I would think many owners who have enrolled their week into the points system would choose to use points rather than II. So, I have no idea how many intact 2BR units II actually gets.

 

[Dean]

I have an ongoing request for a 2 bedroom at Maui Ocean Club for next May. I called the resort to find out how many 2 bedroom units they have. I was transferred 4 times and finally got someone who had no idea how many there were. She was guessing over 100. Does anyone here know? I am just trying to decide if I should lower my expectations to a one bedroom. I am a Marriott owner.

As noted, quite a few 2 BR but very few deposited as a 2 BR. Also realize the original section does not have true kitchens or W/D. They have a VERY limited kitchen if that matters to you though there is a group kitchen with stove tops but no ovens. And there is a community set of W/D. What are you trading (week, size, resort), when are you wanting to go and how far out did you request. Even for a studio or 1 BR it's not an easy trade.

 

[dougp26364]

Here are the numbers for Maui Ocean Club:

Original Towers (limited kitchen; no washer/dryer):
1BR Ocean Front -- 18
1BR Ocean View -- 99
1BR Garden View -- 43
1BR Island View -- 20
TOTAL 1BR: 180
2BR Ocean Front -- 48
2BR Ocean View -- 44
2BR Mountain/Garden View -- 39
TOTAL 2BR: 131

Lahaina/Napili Towers (full kitchen; washer/dryer):
2BR Mountain/Garden View -- 20
2BR Ocean View -- 21
2BR Ocean Front -- 59
2BR Island View -- 26
TOTAL 2BR: 126
3BR Ocean Front -- 22

But as doug26364 said, the 2BR units are almost all lock-off units, so many owners will opt to lock-off to deposit two weeks with II if they choose to deposit to II instead of using the week or converting the week to use in Marriott's internal points system. Maui Ocean Club weeks get very generous point allocations, so I would think many owners who have enrolled their week into the points system would choose to use points rather than II. So, I have no idea how many intact 2BR units II actually gets.

That has been one of the nice things about Marriott's destinations program. In years past if we wanted a 2 bedroom unit in Hawaii, we'd better be happy with Kauai. You just didn't see very many 2 bedrooms deposited on Maui. Now, using MVC's points based reservation system, I can see a few 2 bedrooms available. But if you're trying to exchange into MOC and, if you're not doing an internal exchange using another MVC week, even those will be hard pressed to obtain via exchange using I.I. It could happen but I'd imagine you'd have to be extremely flexible as to your travel dates. Heck, even using Marriott's internal points reservation system it seems to me I need to book either very far in advance (13 months) or be looking for the lowest/slowest season available. Then again we're always trying to book Ocean Front units or, at the very least Ocean View units, and those are often as scarce as hens teeth when we prefer to go, which is Feb. or March.

 

[Tamaradarann]

I’m not certain the problem is a rarity of 2 bedroom units. I can often see availability of 2 bedroom units using DC points, although they’re more scarce than 1 bedroom units. I suspect the issue may be value related. MOC is a relatively expensive resort to own and I imagine it trades out well. Thus I suspect owners of 2 bedrooms trading out lock off those units to get two exchanges instead of one, maximizing their value. Marriott use to sell that benefit of lock off units pretty hard back in the day.

I am not a Marriott owner but I have gone to Marriott presentations so my understanding of the system is theoretical not actual experience. Not only may an owner split a 2 BR lockout to get 2 deposits, an owner may split a 2 BR unit to use 1/2 and deposit 1/2 of their lockout. Therefore, there will be more 1 BR and Studios available than 2 BR units.

 

[Ricci]

Thanks for the numbers for maui Ocean club......very interesting. I am using a
Marriott Sunset Pointe July week for the trade and submitted the request over a year out. I think I will leave the request as is for awhile.

 

[JIMinNC]

Thanks for the numbers for maui Ocean club......very interesting. I am using a
Marriott Sunset Pointe July week for the trade and submitted the request over a year out. I think I will leave the request as is for awhile.

Working in your favor is your Marriott priority in II and the fact that May is not one of the higher seasons in Maui - it's after the winter rush and before the summer rush. I believe fall is the slowest season in Maui, but April/May is probably second slowest, I would suspect.

Working against you will be, as others have noted, that there are so many better options for 2BR Maui owners than depositing the full 2BR unit into II. Converting to DC Points, locking off and making two II deposits, or renting out the unit are all probably more attractive options for Maui owners. That will limit the number of 2BR units that show up, making your trade difficult, but maybe not impossible. Who knows? It's always something of a crapshoot with Interval trading.

 

[Dean]

Working in your favor is your Marriott priority in II and the fact that May is not one of the higher seasons in Maui - it's after the winter rush and before the summer rush. I believe fall is the slowest season in Maui, but April/May is probably second slowest, I would suspect.

Working against you will be, as others have noted, that there are so many better options for 2BR Maui owners than depositing the full 2BR unit into II. Converting to DC Points, locking off and making two II deposits, or renting out the unit are all probably more attractive options for Maui owners. That will limit the number of 2BR units that show up, making your trade difficult, but maybe not impossible. Who knows? It's always something of a crapshoot with Interval trading.

I agree, post Easter April until the week prior the holiday should be the second lowest after Sept but likely close to the rest of the fall. Still tough due to the likely lower numbers of 2 BR. The other variable is the resort quality blocks, if it works the way it did 3-4 years ago with II, this alone may allow units come and go without matching. But they have done everything they can it appears assuming their unit was deposited at least 10 months before the date of the reservation.

 

[turkel]

If your patient you should be successful. I am pretty sure Marriott does a bulk deposit for May around November.

My mom just got a 2 bedroom Maui MOC for November using a 2 bedroom gold Shadow Ridge.

Be patient.