Marriott Grand Chateau resale question

[snackyx]

Looking at a 3 bedroom resale at Grand Chateau. My question: can these units be split up and booked as a 2 bedroom and a studio? I'm not sure if these are dedicated units. Any clarification appreciated.

 

[echino]

3br = 2br + 1br

 

[Dean]

Looking at a 3 bedroom resale at Grand Chateau. My question: can these units be split up and booked as a 2 bedroom and a studio? I'm not sure if these are dedicated units. Any clarification appreciated.

As chino noted, they trade as a 2 BR plus a 1 BR. You might consider two 2 BR instead of a 3 BR. More available purchase options and likely not much more up front but 2 closings. It'll also give you the ability to reserve 13 months out instead of 12.

 

[DRH90277]

We own a two bedroom "lock-off." My experience is that it doesn't rent for much (too many competing hotels and casinos). Also, our trades through Interval were ok but for lesser resort properties.

Other owners may share their success in exchanging for better properties such as Hawaii, Newport Coast, Ocean Watch, Grand Ocean, etc.

 

[TravelTime]

We own a two bedroom "lock-off." My experience is that it doesn't rent for much (too many competing hotels and casinos). Also, our trades through Interval were ok but for lesser resort properties.

Other owners may share their success in exchanging for better properties such as Hawaii, Newport Coast, Ocean Watch, Grand Ocean, etc.

Your experience is interesting. Here on TUG the Grand Chateau is often recommended as a trader. I thought it would have a lot of trading power in II. Personally, I always wondered why any timeshare in Vegas or Orlando would be a good trader.

 

[bazzap]

Your experience is interesting. Here on TUG the Grand Chateau is often recommended as a trader. I thought it would have a lot of trading power in II. Personally, I always wondered why any timeshare in Vegas or Orlando would be a good trader.

We have had excellent trades with both the Master and Guest units of our Grand Chateau EOY 2 Bed Lock off for over 10 years, always to other MVC resorts in the Caribbean, Europe and Asia.

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Your experience is interesting. Here on TUG the Grand Chateau is often recommended as a trader. I thought it would have a lot of trading power in II. Personally, I always wondered why any timeshare in Vegas or Orlando would be a good trader.

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[DRH90277]

Grand Chateau (GC) - We bought GC as a Rewards (now Bonvoy) point farm (before 2010), for the lock-off feature into two Interval exchanges, or as a rental. We don't use it for Bonvoy points now and use it primarily for either Dest Points or as two separate exchanges through Interval. Personal taste only, but we don't care much for the property as a stay location (but we didn't buy it for that.)

Buying GC resale as a "non-enrolled" week eliminates both points exchange prospects, so it would be use, rental, or Interval exchange(s).

As an aside, it has been good for those who may want a 1 bdrm for exchanges in retirement.

 

[Dean]

Your experience is interesting. Here on TUG the Grand Chateau is often recommended as a trader. I thought it would have a lot of trading power in II. Personally, I always wondered why any timeshare in Vegas or Orlando would be a good trader.

Not a surprise to me given the competition and the other information I've seen from RCI's TPU's and condo rentals in the past. It should trade well M to M if you set yourself up by getting a good week, depositing then requesting EARLY and being patient. I've had a lot of success with Willow Ridge which should have roughly the same trade power for a comparable week but a lower resort rating. But I'm also realistic. For example, I do not expect to trade a studio for a 2 BR top week in HI unless under 60 days out and something pops up last minute. A good trading unit in Marriott is about maximizing value, not about having a true to end trader.

 

[VacationForever]

When we were at Ko Olina last year, the salesperson said Desert Springs are the top 5 MVC resorts that trade into Ko Olina. I didn't ask about other weeks. We have traded into 3BR and 2BR consecutive weeks multiple times using 1BRs and studios, about 6 to 10 months out.

 

[TravelTime]

When we were at Ko Olina last year, the salesperson said Desert Springs are the top 5 MVC resorts that trade into Ko Olina. I didn't ask about other weeks. We have traded into 3BR and 2BR consecutive weeks multiple times using 1BRs and studios, about 6 to 10 months out.

Did you deposit a platinum week? What kid of view and what floor did they give you at Ko Olina?

 

[VacationForever]

Did you deposit a platinum week? What kid of view and what floor did they give you at Ko Olina?

My Desert Springs I are red week (newer resorts are called "platinum" season). I have only gotten ocean view rooms 5th floor and up, our favorite being Naia. The 3BR was in the furthest building on 7th or 8th floor, I think it's Moana.

 

[TravelTime]

My Desert Springs I are red week (newer resorts are called "platinum" season). I have only gotten ocean view rooms 5th floor and up, our favorite being Naia. The 3BR was in the furthest building on 7th or 8th floor, I think it's Moana.

Those are great trades. What is the annual MF on desert springs? Do you lock it off and deposit half? if so, which half?

 

[VacationForever]

Those are great trades. What is the annual MF on desert springs? Do you lock it off and deposit half? if so, which half?

Desert Springs Villas I MF is quite expensive relative to other Marriott Palm Desert timeshare. You can look at the MF in the sticky. Including property taxes which are billed separately, it is about $1830 going off by my memory. $70 of the MF pays for JW Marriott spa access Mon to Fri. When we were deciding which MVC Palm Desert property to buy, we decided on DSV I due to much larger floor plan and the studio is good size even though we don't stay in studios.

I always split the weeks and I have been renting out the 1BR side for the past 4 years.

 

[TravelTime]

Desert Springs Villas I MF is quite expensive relative to other Marriott Palm Desert timeshare. You can look at the MF in the sticky. Including property taxes which are billed separately, it is about $1830 going off by my memory. $70 of the MF pays for JW Marriott spa access Mon to Fri. When we were deciding which MVC Palm Desert property to buy, we decided on DSV I due to much larger floor plan and the studio is good size even though we don't stay in studios.

I always split the weeks and I have been renting out the 1BR side for the past 4 years.

$1830 is reasonable to me. My only true unit that I could split would be my MKO EOY unit. It is Hawaii so MFs are much higher and hard to get an equivalent trade. It is enrolled so I have been converting it to DPs.

I am able to get II inventory through DPs so I may stick to that from non-Marriotts. For Marriotts, I have been using DPs. But everyone on TUG talks about the great Marriott to Marriott trades they get so that sounds attractive if I were to buy a trader. If I did, I would probably pick one of the Desert Springs resorts over Vegas or Orlando because we would not ever use those locations but we might sometimes go to Desert Springs.

As you probably remember, we got an II trade for DSV I for Christmas week. I guess I can evaluate then if I would want to purchase one resale to use and/or trade. It will be my first time ever in Palm Desert.

 

[aamarquez8]

We have a 3b MGC week, we tend to split the units and trade. we see a lot of M. And when someone posts sightings, my 1bed can see them also. we have MGV (comparable) also & my MGV studio can see them as well. I have seen MKO, MOC, NCV, Boston, lake tahoe, etc many times and also Disney. I had put in a 'request first' using both 1b & 2b for 2/3b Aulani & Disney Cali. I've got 3 emails so far from II stating they got a similar match for a M.Koolina stay in Dec22 & Mar23. I didn't accept them but it shows that they do trade well.

We like the MGC location, . the rising cost of surrounding hotels on the strip makes staying in a 1 or 2bed at MGC for $150/n with free valet parking good enough for us! we were just there during NYE as a trade.

 

[pchung6]

We have a 3b MGC week, we tend to split the units and trade. we see a lot of M. And when someone posts sightings, my 1bed can see them also. we have MGV (comparable) also & my MGV studio can see them as well. I have seen MKO, MOC, NCV, Boston, lake tahoe, etc many times and also Disney. I had put in a 'request first' using both 1b & 2b for 2/3b Aulani & Disney Cali. I've got 3 emails so far from II stating they got a similar match for a M.Koolina stay in Dec22 & Mar23. I didn't accept them but it shows that they do trade well.

We like the MGC location, . the rising cost of surrounding hotels on the strip makes staying in a 1 or 2bed at MGC for $150/n with free valet parking good enough for us! we were just there during NYE as a trade.

Do you know the MF for MGC for 1br, 2br and 3br. I’ve been thinking to add MGC to my portfolio or something else other tuggers recommend. Just want to know your thoughts.

 

[Dean]

You can look most up at Vacationpointexchange.com including over multiple years. Not all are there and not all include the latest but it'll give you an idea. GC is generally the second cheapest of the trading resorts with Willow Ridge being the cheapest. The 1BR is not very favorable though but might make sense if one didn't want to exchange and wanted to use a 1 BR there routinely, esp for the Plus week.

 

[aamarquez8]

Do you know the MF for MGC for 1br, 2br and 3br. I’ve been thinking to add MGC to my portfolio or something else other tuggers recommend. Just want to know your thoughts.

3bed MF for 2022 is $2012, we are kind of new TS owners and here are my thoughts. 3b is on the high side but if u will use it then it maybe worth having.. it takes away the ii trade expense by having a kitchen (vs studio from 2b).

not sure of the others but u can check redweeks listing to see MF.

We like our MGV bc of the Florida Club option. I am starting to explore renting weeks out and see that the beach resorts from the FC rents higher than Orlando. We have dvc so we use it to supplement our trip.

 

[travellerviajero1]

Not a surprise to me given the competition and the other information I've seen from RCI's TPU's and condo rentals in the past. It should trade well M to M if you set yourself up by getting a good week, depositing then requesting EARLY and being patient. I've had a lot of success with Willow Ridge which should have roughly the same trade power for a comparable week but a lower resort rating. But I'm also realistic. For example, I do not expect to trade a studio for a 2 BR top week in HI unless under 60 days out and something pops up last minute. A good trading unit in Marriott is about maximizing value, not about having a true to end trader.

hi @Dean - if getting the 1br GC resale, you first have the option to change your week before depositing what you were able to select into II, is that how it works? and I take it goal is to look up TDI to see what would be best?

 

[Dean]

hi @Dean - if getting the 1br GC resale, you first have the option to change your week before depositing what you were able to select into II, is that how it works? and I take it goal is to look up TDI to see what would be best?

TDI is a guide. Trade power is a math formula of unit size, lead time and the trade power. TDI is a rough guide but likely not actually what II uses for the actual trade power though it's the best info II gives us to determine the trade power. If this is a 2025 week then I'd probably change it to week 41, 42 or 43 if I was inclined to change it. Remember there will be a charge for each change. The good and bad for GC is that the Platinum season is the entire year except week 52 with a fairly flat TDI curve. If the resale came with a summer week or after and I had it in my account within the next month or so, I probably wouldn't change it. Asking the seller to change it is likely the best option.