amisco
TUG Member
Staying at the HGVC Flamingo and was approached to attend a presentation, my wife wanted the $100 spa discount so we went after telling the person that we were not looking to add any new timeshares to our portfolio. To my surprise they were going to have the meeting at the HGVC Strip location...and provided a stretch limosine for my wife and I to go.
We met our sales rep. a former NFL football player to whom we repeated that we were not a good prospect and have generally always bought through resale vs. developer units. He then made several representations some of which were IMHO an attempt to inflate the value of the Elite program...
He claimed that unless you were a member of the Elite program you would be charged an exchange fee from Hilton unless you used your exact week that you owned....since I had just made a reservation at a different resort and a different sized property for the stay and wasn't charged a fee, I'm thinking that this was not true...unless you are getting a reservation for someone else.
He noted that I would get an elevated level in the HHonors program...which is true, but I am already Gold with the program without upgrading...and if you have the Hilton Surpass Amex and spend $40K then you are Diamond.
He then pointed to Hilton properties that he claimed were only accessible throught he Elite program...most of them looked like Hilton Hotels and Resorts which you could use HHonors points.
He then told me I could get points for the Elite program...and be able to access my properties that I own and cut my MF by 50%....At this point I asked for some detail of how this would work with a property like the Hilton Club NY...he pointed to the HHonors points program...he never explained how this would work out .. I am not sure that this is even a real program.
He then played the "guilt / threat".... He told me that the "girls who make the appointments can lose there jobs if people they send don't buy"... He then told us that "we would "have to sign a form in which we would agree that we would not attend any presentations ever again.". I told him that they had approached us about the presentation, we weren't about to sign anything and that they should change their business model if it wasn't working. I think he was pretty much "winging it" through most of the presentation. I am not sure that anything he was proposing was a part of the HGVC program.
The presentation was not informative...just seemed pretty desperate... I asked him about the Planet Hollywood property...while he said that it was coming....he had no details.
Probably one of the less professional presentations we have ever attended.
We met our sales rep. a former NFL football player to whom we repeated that we were not a good prospect and have generally always bought through resale vs. developer units. He then made several representations some of which were IMHO an attempt to inflate the value of the Elite program...
He claimed that unless you were a member of the Elite program you would be charged an exchange fee from Hilton unless you used your exact week that you owned....since I had just made a reservation at a different resort and a different sized property for the stay and wasn't charged a fee, I'm thinking that this was not true...unless you are getting a reservation for someone else.
He noted that I would get an elevated level in the HHonors program...which is true, but I am already Gold with the program without upgrading...and if you have the Hilton Surpass Amex and spend $40K then you are Diamond.
He then pointed to Hilton properties that he claimed were only accessible throught he Elite program...most of them looked like Hilton Hotels and Resorts which you could use HHonors points.
He then told me I could get points for the Elite program...and be able to access my properties that I own and cut my MF by 50%....At this point I asked for some detail of how this would work with a property like the Hilton Club NY...he pointed to the HHonors points program...he never explained how this would work out .. I am not sure that this is even a real program.
He then played the "guilt / threat".... He told me that the "girls who make the appointments can lose there jobs if people they send don't buy"... He then told us that "we would "have to sign a form in which we would agree that we would not attend any presentations ever again.". I told him that they had approached us about the presentation, we weren't about to sign anything and that they should change their business model if it wasn't working. I think he was pretty much "winging it" through most of the presentation. I am not sure that anything he was proposing was a part of the HGVC program.
The presentation was not informative...just seemed pretty desperate... I asked him about the Planet Hollywood property...while he said that it was coming....he had no details.
Probably one of the less professional presentations we have ever attended.