Kingsland questions

[DaKine_R]

For the people experienced in staying here. First time staying at Kingsland. Usually go to Waikiki and stay at the grand islander. So far, SO many rules here! They seem very stringent here on rules. Don’t feel the island vibes so far.

I have some friends that are coming in that are staying offsite but we want to hang out together at the pools and possibly Waikoloa lagoons and the pools over there.

Anyone have experience on having guests that are not staying on property? Recommendations?

From what I read somewhere, they don’t really check wristbands. But so far first day here and all I hear is I can’t do this and I can do that.

TIA

 

[ljmiii]

I have some friends that are coming in that are staying offsite but we want to hang out together at the pools and possibly Waikoloa lagoons and the pools over there.

Theoretically the answer for the pool is no unless you added them to your reservation. I'm not sure what Waikoloa lagoons means...Kingsland, Bay Club, and Kohala are the HGVC resorts. Is that a HVC resort? Or do you mean A-Bay? Or the Waikoloa Hilton Hotel?

From what I read somewhere, they don’t really check wristbands. But so far first day here and all I hear is I can’t do this and I can do that.

When we were last at Kingsland a year and a half ago they were constantly checking wristbands in the pool area (particularly at the slide).

 

[mountainboy]

Theoretically the answer for the pool is no unless you added them to your reservation. I'm not sure what Waikoloa lagoons means...Kingsland, Bay Club, and Kohala are the HGVC resorts. Is that a HVC resort? Or do you mean A-Bay? Or the Waikoloa Hilton Hotel?


When we were last at Kingsland a year and a half ago they were constantly checking wristbands in the pool area (particularly at the slide).

*Likely the Lagoon at Hilton Hotel (as A-Bay is public beach, open to all).

Many prior TUG posts re guests: owners at KL pay premium $$ for KL access & hate it, when gusts access KL pools and they, as owners, can't access them (or all poolside amenities like chairs/ etc are 'taken' by others, so understand the resort limiting access to registered owners/guests only (& not off-site guests)...

A-Bay is right next door, and may gather there without any concerns/limitations...

Also, folks may likely gather at the large Hilton Hotel property, but they may restrict access to some amenities (towels for pool etc) to registered guests only (many prior TUG posts re this also)..

TY!

 

[DaKine_R]

Theoretically the answer for the pool is no unless you added them to your reservation. I'm not sure what Waikoloa lagoons means...Kingsland, Bay Club, and Kohala are the HGVC resorts. Is that a HVC resort? Or do you mean A-Bay? Or the Waikoloa Hilton Hotel?


When we were last at Kingsland a year and a half ago they were constantly checking wristbands in the pool area (particularly at the slide).

Yes. Sorry I did mean the lagoons waikoloa Hilton hotel.

 

[DaKine_R]

*Likely the Lagoon at Hilton Hotel (as A-Bay is public beach, open to all).

Many prior TUG posts re guests: owners at KL pay premium $$ for KL access & hate it, when gusts access KL pools and they, as owners, can't access them (or all poolside amenities like chairs/ etc are 'taken' by others, so understand the resort limiting access to registered owners/guests only (& not off-site guests)...

A-Bay is right next door, and may gather there without any concerns/limitations...

Also, folks may likely gather at the large Hilton Hotel property, but they may restrict access to some amenities (towels for pool etc) to registered guests only (many prior TUG posts re this also)..

TY!

When I stayed at the grand islander last year on Oahu. They were very chill about everything as far as towels. I don’t think they had me name all the registered guests. They had me write down the names of every one in my party at check in at Kingsland . Seems like they are very stringent on the guests list here. Which is weird to me because it’s definitely less crowded here compared to Waikiki. I could see that being more of a thing there.

Thanks to this forum. I can always get timely and great advice here!

 

[brp]

*Likely the Lagoon at Hilton Hotel (as A-Bay is public beach, open to all).

I've seen an argument that the lagoon at the Hilton Hotel, being directly connected to the ocean, is also public, I agree with this. No towel support, of course. But the lagoon should be open to all.

Cheers.

 

[tananth]

A daypass for the Hilton Hotel pools/laggon is $50 and includes parking (daytime only). Registered KL guest's can get complimentary daypass chit (includes daytime parking) for Hilton Hotel pools/lagoon from the KL front desk (typically 1 per day per registered guest) and since the daypass does not list your name, there is probably no reason you can't use it with guests, even if guests are not allowed at the KL pools

 

[letsgobobby]

When I stayed at the grand islander last year on Oahu. They were very chill about everything as far as towels. I don’t think they had me name all the registered guests. They had me write down the names of every one in my party at check in at Kingsland . Seems like they are very stringent on the guests list here. Which is weird to me because it’s definitely less crowded here compared to Waikiki. I could see that being more of a thing there.

Thanks to this forum. I can always get timely and great advice here!

someone told me locals tend to try to use facilities at waikoloa so they need some crowd control, don't know if any truth to that.

 

[SmithOp]

What size is your unit?

If you knew guests were coming then adding their names at check in (up to Max for your unit size) would have solved this issue.

I've owned KL since it opened and we have friends in Hilo, I always add their names so they can visit and use the pools.

It's always been chill there, no problems.

 

[brp]

someone told me locals tend to try to use facilities at waikoloa so they need some crowd control, don't know if any truth to that.

Having been there several times, this is true. I was talking with some locals who are owners, and they said that use by non-owner locals is an issue. We have never been checked, and sometimes don't get the wristband because of this - to avoid waste), but I would be happy to be questioned and get the wristband if needed. I'm glad that they do this.

Cheers.

 

[HedonisticEpicurean]

So far, SO many rules here! They seem very stringent here on rules. Don’t feel the island vibes so far.

My good Hawaiian friend, Pua, explains it like this: The Aloha Spirit is not diminished by rules—in fact, when rules are rooted in respect, care, and harmony, they can enhance the Aloha Spirit. The key is that rules should be used to to protect and nurture the values that make Aloha special: kindness, hospitality, and unity.

Having stayed on the property several times as well as numerous times at the Hilton Waikaloa I'm surprised you are offput by the rules. I never found many rules. Most of the rules I've seen are standard: Only paying guests in pool areas, no smoking in any room or building, use of a parking pass for overnight guests, and maybe a few others that I don't remember or can find online. But, like Pua said in my quote, the rules are set up to protect and nurture kindness, hospitality and unity. Just saying. I especially don't see any rules that should invade or distract from the amazing tropical experience with the friendly ALOHA hospitality.

Rules such as not bringing non paying guests to indulge in services reserved for paying guests certainly doesn't seem unrealistic or against the ALOHA spirit. Just as if you stay at a Hampton Inn or other property with a free breakfast buffet I certainly would find it wrong to bring nonpaying friends to partake in the free breakfast. I certainly hope others have integrity, honesty and sense not to break those rules.

If you have a room that sleeps six and you only have four then adding two more to your guest list is fine, IMO. But, expecting to bring in several more friends or locals becomes murky in a grey zone of loss of character.

“Aloha is the essence of relationships in which each person is important to every other person for collective existence.”

Mahalo for being part of the Big Island ‘ohana. Enjoy every moment of your visit, and may the Aloha you feel in Hawaii stay with you long after you leave.

 

[sponger76]

I've seen an argument that the lagoon at the Hilton Hotel, being directly connected to the ocean, is also public, I agree with this. No towel support, of course. But the lagoon should be open to all.

Cheers.

Technically, the law in Hawaii is that beaches fronting private property are public only up to the average high water mark. Unless the sidewalks around the lagoon are very regularly underwater, they are not public but are instead private property. Even most of the sand would be considered private property unless it too is very regularly underwater.

 

[brp]

Technically, the law in Hawaii is that beaches fronting private property are public only up to the average high water mark. Unless the sidewalks around the lagoon are very regularly underwater, they are not public but are instead private property. Even most of the sand would be considered private property unless it too is very regularly underwater.

Thanks for this. The sidewalks, as far as I know, are not limited to hotel guests, so anyone can be there. As for the sand, much of it is often underwater. So, based on this law, it seems that accessing the lagoon without a wristband should be OK provided that one goes from sidewalk to the lower part of the sand that would be below the average high water mark.

Cheers.

 

[sponger76]

Thanks for this. The sidewalks, as far as I know, are not limited to hotel guests, so anyone can be there. As for the sand, much of it is often underwater. So, based on this law, it seems that accessing the lagoon without a wristband should be OK provided that one goes from sidewalk to the lower part of the sand that would be below the average high water mark.

Cheers.

I've been there. The vast majority of the sand is above the high water mark and is not usually underwater. I highly doubt most people going to the lagoon are going to want to make sure they are only staying in the wet part of the sand.

 

[brp]

I've been there. The vast majority of the sand is above the high water mark and is not usually underwater. I highly doubt most people going to the lagoon are going to want to make sure they are only staying in the wet part of the sand.

Well, we're getting into semantics, but one need not stay on the wet part of the sand. One only need stay on the part that would be wet at high tide. At low tide, it will be dry, but is still within the public domain. I've seen the water be pretty high.

In any case, I have no qualms about using the lagoon there even without a wristband if not using their towels our chairs. We are only interested in going early in the day, when we do go, and few people are there. So, impact on others is non-existent. As we stay at KL, where we do have access, it's all good. But we've gone, and would do so again, if staying at Bay Club. YMMV.

Cheers.

 

[Jaredcg20]

We've been to Kings Land 3 or 4 times (just booking directly thru hilton) I've never thought they were stringent on any rules. With that said we've never tried bringing friends in either. Is that the only "rule" you feel they are being strict on?

Also you could go chill at the other pools at the facility, besides the main one at KL, hardly anyone is ever there.

 

[brp]

Also you could go chill at the other pools at the facility, besides the main one at KL, hardly anyone is ever there.

The Serenity Pool is terrible. No one should ever go there...Really...

Cheers.

 

[1Kflyerguy]

We usually travel off-season, and have not found KL to be all that strict on the rules. But the couple of times we went during spring break, so my sister, who is a teacher, could join us, they seemed much stricter about wristbands.

We recently stayed at Maui Bay Villas in May, which is the off-season, and they were very stingy with the towels. One per guest, not even the usual two that other resorts provide. If we go back, I will definitely claim a full guest count for the room.