Kings Land 2br

[GregT]

All,

Just checked into phase 1 kings land 2br. Very nice room and great property! I'm trying to figure out what's different about Phase 2 which I think is approx 150 sf smaller?

Can someone describe the difference? Or have the new layout? I remember reading that some visitors preferred the layout of the P2?

This is a very nice room - but hoping to avoid a tour to get the answer.

Thx!!!

 

[alwysonvac]

Never been to Kings Land but noticed two different layouts on the Hilton website - http://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/Resorts.aspx#details/index&resortId=68&backFunctionality=0
I'm assuming the 2nd layout is phase 2

1st layout

2nd layout

http://multimedia.hiltongrandvacati.../dynamicImage.cfm?id=557&width=880&height=530

http://multimedia.hiltongrandvacati.../dynamicImage.cfm?id=308&width=880&height=530

 

[GregT]

Wow -- thank you for the pics! That is very helpful and interesting to sit here and see the difference in the primary living area.

They've saved space by creating a smaller kitchen (less counter space -- not sure what cabinets are missing) and they've moved the dining table up against the wall and fixed the bench -- makes sense.

They also appear to have removed a closet that we use as a food pantry -- DW would be sorry to lose that -- but otherwise don't see much difference in the living area.

And the Master Bath in Phase 1 clearly has a little extra space too. Nice big bath tub may have been sacriced in Phase 2 as well as open area by the vanities.

At first glance, Phase 2 doesn't appear to be much of a sacrifice from Phase 1 -- if at all. And you have to love those extra points.

Thanks again!

Greg

 

[Emi]

The angle of the pictures makes the room look larger than life.The furniture is small scale, made for the unit. I would say floorspace is at least 25% less. Tiny and cute dining table barely have room for 4 people. Kitchen and living area half the size. The bedrooms and bathrooms are nice though. Small furniture but adequate.

 

[GregT]

The angle of the pictures makes the room look larger than life.The furniture is small scale, made for the unit. I would say floorspace is at least 25% less. Tiny and cute dining table barely have room for 4 people. Kitchen and living area half the size. The bedrooms and bathrooms are nice though. Small furniture but adequate.

Did it feel cramped? That's an interesting observation about the dining table (since there are 5 of us in my family....).

Hmmm....I may have to do a tour after all. DW will be so happy.

 

[DaveC]

I stayed in a 1 bedroom last year. From the pictures, it looks like they moved the dining room table out of the kitchen area and used a smaller table. In the first phase design, the dining table is right there. You can see more kitchen space in the 2nd phase design. Overall, the new room does like a bit smaller. I like the original design better. The furniture looks better in the first design. I liked KingsLand better than the Bay Club too.

 

[slum808]

Greg,
Glad to see you like the property. Do you know if phase II will have a separate RCI code, or some other way to tell them apart?

P.S. Happy Fathers day! Nothing like spending the day in Hawaii with the kids.

 

[GregT]

All,

I was able to get into the new 2br model without doing the tour. Definitely more cozy-smaller but not cramped. I will get back and post pics but Jonell told me she would be fine with the space and we both felt that the space was better utilized. But definitely smaller. I took some rough meAsurements of the main room and will post after stepping off my current room.

Thx

 

[GregT]

All,

A little more info - I stepped off the new living/dining area and note it to be approx 266 sq ft (or 14 x 19 flip flops). The existing building is 300 sf (12 x 25 ffs). The tactile differences I noticed were less counter space, loss of the closet with shelves and a modestly tighter dining area. The master bed/bath felt better laid out and wouldn't be an issue at all - either with the guest room/bath.

We really liked the P2 unit and I could see us staying here with our points.

All the best

Greg

 

[GregT]

All,

A little more info - I stepped off the new living/dining area and note it to be approx 266 sq ft (or 14 x 19 flip flops). The existing building is 300 sf (12 x 25 ffs). The tactile differences I noticed were less counter space, loss of the closet with shelves and a modestly tighter dining area. The master bed/bath felt better laid out and wouldn't be an issue at all - either with the guest room/bath.

We really liked the P2 unit and I could see us staying here with our points.

All the best

Greg

All,

The very nice lady at the front desk found vacant rooms for me and another nice bell man took me on a tour. More random trivia on room sizes:

Living Area of Bay Club 2BR (Suite A) is 465sf including kitchen
Living Area of Bay Club 1BR is 334 sf including kitchen

Kohala Suites 2BR is ~390 sf including kitchen (harder to gauge because of angle)

And repeating earlier data:

KingsLand 2BR (Phase 1) is 300 sf including kitchen
KingsLand 2BR (Phase 2) is 266 sf including kitchen

All were in the same unit measurement (my flip flops) so the relative estimates are reasonable.

This may not be interesting to anybody (except me), but I was curious about the living space for the family in each of the area units.

All the best,

Greg

 

[presley]

Sounds decent. Is it a far walk to the Hilton Hotel? I love the amenities at the hotel.

 

[alwysonvac]

Greg,
Glad to see you like the property. Do you know if phase II will have a separate RCI code, or some other way to tell them apart?

P.S. Happy Fathers day! Nothing like spending the day in Hawaii with the kids.

I hope it's a different RCI code. I would like to stay in the higher point section (Phase 1) for my RCI exchange next year

 

[alwysonvac]

All,

I was able to get into the new 2br model without doing the tour. Definitely more cozy-smaller but not cramped. I will get back and post pics but Jonell told me she would be fine with the space and we both felt that the space was better utilized. But definitely smaller. I took some rough meAsurements of the main room and will post after stepping off my current room.

Thx

I would love to see pictures.

I like the videos of the exterior resort area at Kingsland but I never liked the open floor plan for the kitchen/dining room & master bedroom/bathroom. Just curious if the master bathroom will be closed off from the master bedroom in Phase 2

Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYWvHpZq0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSxBkVR3k3g

Thanks

 

[GregT]

I would love to see pictures.

I like the videos of the exterior resort area at Kingsland but I never liked the open floor plan for the kitchen/dining room & master bedroom/bathroom. Just curious if the master bathroom will be closed off from the master bedroom in Phase 2

Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYWvHpZq0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSxBkVR3k3g

Thanks

Yes, the master bathroom is closed off from the master bedroom in Phase 2.

I did take pictures on my new phone (I hope I can figure out how to get them off the darned thing) so I hope to post soon.

Best,

Greg

 

[GregT]

Sounds decent. Is it a far walk to the Hilton Hotel? I love the amenities at the hotel.

Yes, it is approx 3/4 mile to the hotel? The shuttle is pretty consistent though so that helps -- and I agree -- I really like the hotel!

Best,

Greg

 

[slum808]

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[TLA]

The Phase II units are much smaller than Phase I. The buildings have an interior hall with units off each side. This means the 2nd bedroom is on the "hall side" and doesn't have a window.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Makes me appreciate the very large Bay Club units.

Now with the renovation being complete over at Bay Club that would be my first choice, since pool access at hotel is not a big priority for me.

Kingsland would be my second, but only if I was able to get in via RCI. Too many points for the phase 1 product via HGVC. Phase 2 units look sort of on the small size.

Since Bay Club is easier via both RCI and via HGVC, it will be my primary target.

 

[GregT]

Makes me appreciate the very large Bay Club units.

Now with the renovation being complete over at Bay Club that would be my first choice, since pool access at hotel is not a big priority for me.

Kingsland would be my second, but only if I was able to get in via RCI. Too many points for the phase 1 product via HGVC. Phase 2 units look sort of on the small size.

Since Bay Club is easier via both RCI and via HGVC, it will be my primary target.

Sandy,

This is where I'm gravitating to. Those Bay Club units were really nice when I walked through them, the new renovation is very well done (and those lanai's are fantastic). But the KingsLand amenities (the pool, pool bar and restaurant) are all very convenient when staying close to the timeshare or at the end of the day's adventures.

It's a real trade off -- the unit space for the property amenities. We really like Kings Land a lot, but I think next time will be a Bay Club or WBR visit to stretch points.

One other interesting comment from the really nice lady at the front-desk (of the Bay Club/WBR property), she said that since the renovations were completed, the Bay Club occupancy has sky rocketed where it is almost always full. She said it is also very common for someone to come and visit for 3 or 4 weeks at a time. I can definitely see living in that unit for a month.

All the best,

Greg


FYI -- Steve, thanks for the pics help -- and sorry that these files are so cumbersome to work with.....

 

[Sandy VDH]

I generally explore, go scuba diving, go to the beach, etc. I don't generally just hang by the pool, so BC works fine for me.

If I were to just hang by the pool I don't think I would fly all the way to Hawaii.

Mind you when I was there 18 months ago staying at Kingsland via an RCI exchange, I did use both the Hilton pool and the Kingsland Complex pool. We had a room that overlooked the smaller quieter pool and I often just used that pool.

The pool at the Hilton was OK, but ended up getting closed because someone took a dump in the pool. Some people are so gross. Needless to say I did not revisit the Hilton pools after that.

 

[slum808]

Greg,

Thanks for taking those pictures. I think the place looks great for a family. I'm okay with the units being a little smaller. The pool is something that I think my family would really love and the reason why I've been shying away from bay club.

Steve

 

[MikeinSoCal]

The pool at the Hilton was OK, but ended up getting closed because someone took a dump in the pool. Some people are so gross. Needless to say I did not revisit the Hilton pools after that.

I worked in the hotel industry for years. This happens all the time, believe it or not.

 

[elaine]

we have an upcoming RCI trade this summer. Since we made the trade 1 year ago, are we in Phase I? We have 5 persons in a 2BR and and Phase II looks too small, and I don't like the 2nd BR with no window.

 

[GregT]

we have an upcoming RCI trade this summer. Since we made the trade 1 year ago, are we in Phase I? We have 5 persons in a 2BR and and Phase II looks too small, and I don't like the 2nd BR with no window.

I don't believe Phase 2 will be completed until almost the end of 2012 so you should be in Phase 1 -- I think you'll enjoy it, it's a lovely property!

Best,

Greg

 

[alwysonvac]

Wow, thanks for pictures. That room is small

My husband commented that it looked like a hotel suite with a mini kitchen thrown in the corner.

I was wondering why Phase 2 didn't have an enclosed U-shaped kitchen but now I can see why. There's simply no space.

There appears to be just enough clearance between the refrigerator and sofa so you can open up the refrigerator door.