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Is TSA PreCheck Losing lts Shine?

From my perspective, the point of Pre-Check is to make the screening process less invasive. I can keep my shoes and belt on, and don't have to disassemble my carry-on. While it can be a shorter line, it doesn't have to be (and even if it is shorter, at some airports it still isn't "short"). But, I also bought Clear which has been very helpfulp---articularly at SFO, SEA, and DEN. It is more expensive than PreCheck, even considering I get a discount by having status with Delta. But, it is worth it to me.
 
We have Nexus, which includes Global Entry and TSA Pre-Check. Five years for $50. Totally worth it, no matter how many times I use it.

Dave
 
We always got tsa pre check,but we did not on last trip. I am old enough to leave my shoes on,but pulling my computer out of its bag was a pain. I have to go through the scanner because of knee replacement
 
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Well, that story didn't really provide much information other than the number of new applicants. You get about as much out of the story as you do the headline. We do like having pre-check, even for the ability to not have to remove our shoes or take apart our carry on bag. We have found some precheck lines to be shorter and others not so much. What I hate most is having pre-check at an airport with pre-check but where the line is either closed or they don't have it at a certain security checkpoint. They give you a lousy card that allows you to still keep your shoes on, big whoop. It is disassembling the carry on and putting it back together that is the big headache.
 
DaveNW said:
We have Nexus, which includes Global Entry and TSA Pre-Check. Five years for $50. Totally worth it, no matter how many times I use it.

Dave
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To be clear, Nexus only allows use of the Global Entry kiosks when entering from Canadian preclearance airports. That’s much more limited than regular Global Entry, so others shouldn’t plan on getting Nexus when they don’t primarily return from Canada.


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I have no explanation, but we get Pre-Check 90% of the time anyway. I paid for it, DW didn't, and so far it hasn't saved me a whit of time or energy. I have never had to wait while DW goes through the non Pre-Check line. I have to go through a scan/pat down anyway due to a pacemaker, which I find to be no big deal. I suppose I could have saved the $85, but can't honestly tell what I would have spent it on otherwise.

Chalk it up to one more purchase of dubious value. I've made a lifetime of 'em. So far, anyway.

Jim
 
Ken555 said:
To be clear, Nexus only allows use of the Global Entry kiosks when entering from Canadian preclearance airports. That’s much more limited than regular Global Entry, so others shouldn’t plan on getting Nexus when they don’t primarily return from Canada.
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Nexus allows use of Global Entry kiosks regardless of the country you are entering from. I have it.

The problem is all of the interview sites are near the border (so not as convenient), and there are challenges when updating passport information (and having in synch with Canada's systems).

From CBP site:
All current NEXUS members, and U.S. citizens and U.S. lawful permanent residents who are SENTRI members, are eligible to use Global Entry kiosks once they provide fingerprints and document information to CBP. If CBP already has your fingerprints and document information on file, you can use Global Entry kiosks without further action and at no additional cost. If you are a Mexican national in SENTRI, you must apply for Global Entry through your TTP account. For additional Global Entry benefit information, log on to your TTP account.
 
sjsharkie said:
Nexus allows use of Global Entry kiosks regardless of the country you are entering from. I have it.

The problem is all of the interview sites are near the border (so not as convenient), and there are challenges when updating passport information (and having in synch with Canada's systems).

From CBP site:
All current NEXUS members, and U.S. citizens and U.S. lawful permanent residents who are SENTRI members, are eligible to use Global Entry kiosks once they provide fingerprints and document information to CBP. If CBP already has your fingerprints and document information on file, you can use Global Entry kiosks without further action and at no additional cost. If you are a Mexican national in SENTRI, you must apply for Global Entry through your TTP account. For additional Global Entry benefit information, log on to your TTP account.
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How do you reconcile this with this official US Customs and Border Protection definition of Nexus:

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/nexus

The NEXUS program allows pre-screened travelers expedited processing when entering the United States and Canada. Program members use dedicated processing lanes at designated northern border ports of entry, NEXUS kiosks when entering Canada by air and Global Entry kiosks when entering the United States via Canadian Preclearance airports. NEXUS members also receive expedited processing at marine reporting locations.
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Ken555 said:
How do you reconcile this with this official US Customs and Border Protection definition of Nexus:

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/nexus
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Honestly, the CBP could do a better job of explaining all of the programs they offer. Because NEXUS is jointly run by Canada and the US, I suppose that is why it is so confusing. There are numerous articles on Global Entry vs. Nexus -- they are far better at explaining the differences.

But I can confirm that you have access to any Global Entry kiosk as if you had Global Entry. The NEXUS cards only work in the Canadian machines, so you use your passport as would a Global Entry holder.

NEXUS is better IMHO -- it is $50 for 5 years and offers the additional convenience of CBP expedited entry. Plus kids enrollment is free. It's just challenging to get the interview because it has to be done near or in Canada.

-ryan
 
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Honestly, the CBP could do a better job of explaining all of the programs they offer. Because NEXUS is jointly run by Canada and the US, I suppose that is why it is so confusing. There are numerous articles on Global Entry vs. Nexus -- they are far better at explaining the differences.

But I can confirm that you have access to any Global Entry kiosk as if you had Global Entry. The NEXUS cards only work in the Canadian machines, so you use your passport as would a Global Entry holder.

NEXUS is better IMHO -- it is $50 for 5 years and offers the additional convenience of CBP expedited entry. Plus kids enrollment is free. It's just challenging to get the interview because it has to be done near or in Canada.

-ryan
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From a practical standpoint, it matters little to me since I have at least two credit cards that pay the $100 Global Entry fee on my behalf (and mine is coming up for renewal... hmm, I need to schedule that soon).

Update: I was wrong...my current cc's do not pay for GE. I thought I had two that did, but they were slightly different cards from the same bank. Oh, well... perhaps this will push me to find the time to finally get the Sapphire Reserve I wanted which does include the benefit. I have time to do this before my GE expiration.
 
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Ken555 said:
From a practical standpoint, it matters little to me since I have at least two credit cards that pay the $100 Global Entry fee on my behalf (and mine is coming up for renewal... hmm, I need to schedule that soon).

Update: I was wrong...my current cc's do not pay for GE. I thought I had two that did, but they were slightly different cards from the same bank. Oh, well... perhaps this will push me to find the time to finally get the Sapphire Reserve I wanted which does include the benefit. I have time to do this before my GE expiration.
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Makes sense. I usually drive across the border twice per year from Seattle -- so this plus the kids free enrollment (3 kids) makes a big deal to me.

If you don't drive across the border, it probably is not worth the extra hassle of trying to find an enrollment location. There is no interview on arrival (yet) for Nexus, which means that even if you are connecting at a major Canadian airport, you still need an appointment.

-ryan
 
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Makes sense. I usually drive across the border twice per year from Seattle -- so this plus the kids free enrollment (3 kids) makes a big deal to me.

If you don't drive across the border, it probably is not worth the extra hassle of trying to find an enrollment location. There is no interview on arrival (yet) for Nexus, which means that even if you are connecting at a major Canadian airport, you still need an appointment.

-ryan
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According to the web site, interviews are not always required for GE renewals.


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Ken555 said:
According to the web site, interviews are not always required for GE renewals.
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Correct. I was stating that if you don't drive across the border, it's not worth the hassle to find an enrollment location. NEXUS is a separate program from GE, so you would need to go through an interview even if you are a GE holder.

-ryan
 
sjsharkie said:
Correct. I was stating that if you don't drive across the border, it's not worth the hassle to find an enrollment location. NEXUS is a separate program from GE, so you would need to go through an interview even if you are a GE holder.

-ryan
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I’ve never been a candidate for Nexus. Sorry if you thought I implied that...


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I have Global Entry, so TSA PreCheck included. My wife & kid do not have it, but they get PreCheck whenever they travel with me. Just traveled with a co-worker, and he got it as well (we booked together).

Shorter lines with less hassles makes it worth every penny to me.

Also, much easier to clear customs.
 
arc918 said:
I have Global Entry, so TSA PreCheck included. My wife & kid do not have it, but they get PreCheck whenever they travel with me. Just traveled with a co-worker, and he got it as well (we booked together).

Shorter lines with less hassles makes it worth every penny to me.

Also, much easier to clear customs.
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And just to make it clear, having GE or PreCheck doesn't mean you will be guaranteed to get PreCheck. My dd has had several flights where she did NOT get it, even though her KTN was on her reservation.

We used to get PreCheck just about every time we'd fly. But then it started that only one of us (dh or I) would get it. So we ended up getting GE. Since our dd was in school in Canada it made it very nice.
 
PreCheck , is still a nice feature especially in an international airport.
 
pedro47 said:
PreCheck , is still a nice feature especially in an international airport.
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International airports do not have PreCheck.

TSA Pre✓ provides expedited security screening benefits for flights departing from U.S. Airports. Global Entry provides the TSA Pre✓ benefit plus expedited US customs screening for international air travelers when entering the United States.
 
Some NEXUS points.
1- I have NEXUS and have used it to use the Global Entry Kiosks coming from Canada and other countries. Never a problem.
2- NEXUS requires a U.S. and Canadian Interview as you have your fingerprints scanned for Global Entry and you have your Irises scanned for NEXUS. You use the Iris scan to get into Canada.
3- I just renewed my NEXUS card and no interview (on either side of the border) was required. Yook 90 days.
 
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