II Points Priority Filtering

[RobKen]

Seems Hyatt Residence Club (HRC) owned by Marriott want to re-sell your unit to you for $10-20k moving the week into a points trust. Does HRC only sell points now not weeks? I'm a HRC owner, here's what I gathered from the points pitch. Hopefully, all is accurate - please correct if I got any of this wrong or left out worthy issues..

The higher and more costly the tier of points - the sooner / earlier you can view and reserve the "trust" inventory plucking II premium available units / dates. Owners of the same branded resorts have priority rules. Points are flexible for short stays in place of a full week, exchange fee(s) are minimal. Trust ownership in points also insulates you from costly home resort assessments from updates, normal repairs to storms damage. There's a points fee in place of the maintenance fee, no free ride.

Exchange inventory goes thru points tiers, then after some time to whoever has requests and eventually end up as excess inventory getaways. By tier filtration theoretically, premium resorts and dates are scooped. Points tier filtering and resort level matching is largely the reason people say I can't get a week or resort I would like. Was told by sales points are the future and the elite resorts and week dates are all becoming more and more difficult to exchange into unless you have points - the top tiers ($$$$$) are best.

Marriott owns II and Wyndham owns RCI so they have all the cards / exchange inventory.

FYI - I kept my $$ and diamond week at HRC, no points for me.

 

[echino]

You can only use Hyatt points to reserve non-Hyatt resorts in II.

There are no points filters in II depending on how much you paid for the points. Developer and resale points have the same trading power in II.

There are quality filters in II for all resorts, not just Hyatt. Quality filters may mask the top resorts (insufficient trading power), or bottom resorts (your resort is too good to give up for such a low quality place).

For example, if you are searching in II using Hyatt points from a resort rated "Premier" in II, then some top tier results may be filtered out and not shown.

Or, if you are searching in II using Hyatt points from a resort rated "Elite" in II, then some low tier results may be filtered out and not shown.

 

[ScoopKona]

There are quality filters in II for all resorts, not just Hyatt. Quality filters may mask the top resorts (insufficient trading power), or bottom resorts (your resort is too good to give up for such a low quality place).

I got around this in my early days of Crimesharing by calling II and asking them to book it anyway. I can still see one of the three weeks we grabbed -- that resort is still chugging along. The other two are greyed out. So they've probably been dropped from the network.

None of the three were bad. But they were old and tired properties. They had great locations so we were happy with our exchanges, and said so to II. I wish they'd just put an asterisk next to the lower quality resorts and let us make up our minds. But I'm guessing that too many people would make the exchange and then scream bloody murder at check-in.

 

[skimeup]

I own two HRC properties and in the past the [pomts have traded well into Four Seasons, some Marriotts, etc. They are the blue symbol, but I don't know if that means elite or premiere.

Anyhow, I now see some sightings of Marriotts that don't show up in my searches. I've read they are in Marriott "preference" but even non-Marriotts don't show up for Hawaian properties. Is this also part of the filtering system or do they just go faster than meets my eye?