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II Club Interval Gold - What Does 65,000 points get you?

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Hi,

I am considering a purchase of a floating week (1 BR) that correlates to 65,000 points in Interval Gold. That assumes I can reserve a week during the highest TDI period. I have owned in Wyndham and traded through RCI weeks for many years but can't quite figure out the "values" in II's points system.

Can anyone tell me if 65,000 points would allow me to get exchange for a 1 BR at a ski resort such as Breckenridge, Steamboat or Vail between mid-Jan and mid-March? From their Weekly Points table it seems that it would put me below the 67,500 minimum level needed for a 1 BR during the max TDI period.

If there is another subforum where this should have been posted plz let me know. I didn't find anything relevant through a search.

Thanks. Greg.
 
You first need to call II and confirm that the Interval Gold membership will transfer to a new owner. II's point system is such an obscure part of II. The information and knowledge is lacking.
 
Saintsfanfl said:
You first need to call II and confirm that the Interval Gold membership will transfer to a new owner. II's point system is such an obscure part of II. The information and knowledge is lacking.
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This is being sold by the resort and does include Interval Gold as part of the contract.
 
I have never heard of a direct resort purchase that was a good value. I highly recommend that you research the resale market where you can save 50-100% on the purchase price by buying resale.
 
I purchased resale through Fairfield (now Wyndham) years ago and have been happy with the trades made through RCI (weeks). The resort is asking for $3,000 for a high season 1 BR which includes Interval Gold (@ 65,000 points). Maintenance is $920/yr. First year's maintenance is paid by the resort as well.

From what I have seen on the resale market the price isn't bad. Since I can't search II's site myself I was trying to determine what type of trade 65k points would get me during winter ski season in the Rockies. From other discussions on TUG it seems like II's point system is not widely used nor popular.
 
It's not popularity - most resorts are just not part of the II points system.
 
Thank you. So does that mean when trying to make an exchange with the Club Interval Gold (CIG) program I would not be able to see, nor exchange into, non-points resorts? That doesn't sound appealing.
 
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gscott2 said:
Thank you. So does that mean when trying to make an exchange with the Club Interval Gold (CIG) program I would not be able to see, nor exchange into, non-points resorts? That doesn't sound appealing.
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I believe you can still exchange for anything but instead of it being a straight week for week exchange you are giving up points.
 
gscott2 said:
I purchased resale through Fairfield (now Wyndham) years ago and have been happy with the trades made through RCI (weeks). The resort is asking for $3,000 for a high season 1 BR which includes Interval Gold (@ 65,000 points). Maintenance is $920/yr. First year's maintenance is paid by the resort as well.

From what I have seen on the resale market the price isn't bad. Since I can't search II's site myself I was trying to determine what type of trade 65k points would get me during winter ski season in the Rockies. From other discussions on TUG it seems like II's point system is not widely used nor popular.
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That maintenance fee seems high for 65,000 points. I don't think I have ever heard of anyone recommending II Club Gold but if you really wanted the option then I would do more research on what units would generate the best ratio.
 
DeniseM said:
I have never heard of a direct resort purchase that was a good value. I highly recommend that you research the resale market where you can save 50-100% on the purchase price by buying resale.
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I don't think you can buy resale weeks that can be used in Club Interval Gold. If you buy a resale week, and the resort participates, you would have to sign up again. Club Interval Gold is sold by resorts to sell people on something they already bought once already. The difference is that unlike RCI Points, you don't get the club on resale.
 
I'm somewhat familiar with CIG (club interval gold).
My understanding of converting from a regular week to II points is that it gives you no trade power boost at all, instead, all it does is make explicit your trade power, you get to see a number of points associated with the week you give to II and a number of points associated with weeks you can exchange into.
When an non points member does an exchange, there's no way for them to know if the week they give up had more trading power than the week they got.
As a points member, if the week you deposit has more TP, you get to keep the change. Also, you can make multiple deposits to get more points to exchange into a more desirable week.
This is all pretty standard features of every points systems.
II points TP varies however. One year you might only need X points for a particular week at a particular resort. The next year you might need more or fewer points, depending on demand. That is what makes II points not worth my while. You just can't plan ahead with that kind of insecurity.
Because the exact number of points required for an exchange vary according to demand, II cannot publish a points catalog the way RCI does.
Also, if you pay to convert, II doesn't allow the conversion to transfer to a new owner the way RCI does. So when you sell your timeshare, you can only transfer the underlying week, not the points conversion.

As to your question
"Can anyone tell me if 65,000 points would allow me to get exchange for a 1 BR at a ski resort such as Breckenridge, Steamboat or Vail between mid-Jan and mid-March? "

The answer is a qualified yes, provided you are looking to book within the flex period, and provided you are not looking at any holidays.
If you try to book outside of flex or during holidays. 65k points would probably be too few points, but again, it depends on actual demand.
 
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Just my opinion, but if you want to go skiing, buy a ski week. You can probably get a resale week somewhere decent for those prices, and then you don't have to pay trading fees. Maybe get 2 EOY years and alternate for variety.
 
dominidude said:
As to your question
"Can anyone tell me if 65,000 points would allow me to get exchange for a 1 BR at a ski resort such as Breckenridge, Steamboat or Vail between mid-Jan and mid-March? "

The answer is a qualified yes, provided you are looking to book within the flex period, and provided you are not looking at any holidays.
If you try to book outside of flex or during holidays. 65k points would probably be too few points, but again, it depends on actual demand.
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bizaro86 said:
Just my opinion, but if you want to go skiing, buy a ski week. You can probably get a resale week somewhere decent for those prices, and then you don't have to pay trading fees. Maybe get 2 EOY years and alternate for variety.
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Thank you for the input. I decided not to move forward. After further review it makes more sense to me as bizaro86 suggests to just buy specific weeks where I want to go. Or even rent a week from TUG listings. Seems like a simpler way to go.
 
dioxide45 said:
I don't think you can buy resale weeks that can be used in Club Interval Gold. If you buy a resale week, and the resort participates, you would have to sign up again. Club Interval Gold is sold by resorts to sell people on something they already bought once already. The difference is that unlike RCI Points, you don't get the club on resale.
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I was told by the company that handles the enrollments for the Quarter House that a resale purchase can transfer to a new owner with a small fee. I think it was $150.

I've never been interested enough to mess with it. I only see the value in taking a 2BR non-lockoff that yields a decent amount of points and downtrading. I rarely ever downtrade so I wouldn't have any use for it.
 
The resort I was looking at was Stardust Tahoe, across from Heavenly. It has been a RCI resort up until now. They have remodeled nearly every room which was supposedly allowing them to move to II. As part of the purchase the buyer receives a certain amount of points in CIG. It seems like it will be a slow process though since I think current owners are under RCI.
 
gscott2 said:
The resort I was looking at was Stardust Tahoe, across from Heavenly. It has been a RCI resort up until now. They have remodeled nearly every room which was supposedly allowing them to move to II. As part of the purchase the buyer receives a certain amount of points in CIG. It seems like it will be a slow process though since I think current owners are under RCI.
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It sounds like the resort is bundling the Club Gold enrollment into the purchase price. It would seem odd if it was a requirement. Not everyone would want to pay the annual II Gold fee.
 
dioxide45 said:
I don't think you can buy resale weeks that can be used in Club Interval Gold. If you buy a resale week, and the resort participates, you would have to sign up again. Club Interval Gold is sold by resorts to sell people on something they already bought once already. The difference is that unlike RCI Points, you don't get the club on resale.
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I think whether a resale week gets offered to be converted into II points depends on the resort and sometimes even in the sales floor manager.
For example, I have a resale Williamsburg plantation week for which I have been offered to be converted into points for 3k.
I also have a resale kings Creek week for which I was told is not elegible for points conversion by one manager, while another says that it would be, for the same 3k.
I suspect II doesn't care much of the week is resale or not, as long as it gets deposited, so this might a resort rule that may be waved by the right person at the resort.
 
dominidude said:
I think whether a resale week gets offered to be converted into II points depends on the resort and sometimes even in the sales floor manager.
For example, I have a resale Williamsburg plantation week for which I have been offered to be converted into points for 3k.
I also have a resale kings Creek week for which I was told is not elegible for points conversion by one manager, while another says that it would be, for the same 3k.
I suspect II doesn't care much of the week is resale or not, as long as it gets deposited, so this might a resort rule that may be waved by the right person at the resort.
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The $3k is the signup fee. My point is that if the week was enrolled previously then you shouldn't have to pay the full $3k again.
 
Was unaware that enrollment could transfer with the resale week. I thought the new owner had to pay up again to enroll in the program again.
 
dioxide45 said:
Was unaware that enrollment could transfer with the resale week. I thought the new owner had to pay up again to enroll in the program again.
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Look at post 9, 11, & 12 in this thread. http://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/converting-quarter-house-new-orleans.214596/

Apparently it only pertains to Quarter House and "not all developers, HOA's and management companies allow this option". I had to go find that thread to refresh my memory. There is still a chance that he is blowing smoke and it isn't really true.
 
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