how to list hvc/dri timeshare

[TPNOVO]

Can someone familiar with HVC/Diamond ownership please help me figure out how to properly list whatever I can give away here, based on this screenshot of our ownership summary? I requested “Transitions” deed back on both contracts, but was told the program is “paused” - so I’m wondering if giving it away here would be possible instead…

Should I list the deeded ownership separately from the 1500 Club points, or both together? Would only a current Club member be interested in the 1500 points to add to their existing points? Could a new owner of the deeded portion just use it in the traditional way, without bothering with the Club? Is it more appealing since we still have 6,500 points available for 2024 plus (due to previously deposited points) 13,000 points for 2025, which I assume would transfer to a new owner? We have no loan balance due, and all MF have always been paid on time since 1998. We just want out of all of it, legally if possible, or will eventually default. Thank you so much for any guidance you can offer!!

 

[jeffox]

Looks like you have a deeded Sedona 2 bedroom lock off every other odd year week 32 plus some trust points. They are separate transactions and will be two separate sales. The details about point transfers and usages is a hard one to nail down with all the changes in ownership and programs, but someone else may have a better handle on that then I. Diamond got all confusing after they bought Sunterra and started with the trust points and the Club to get them to combine.

 

[TPNOVO]

Looks like you have a deeded Sedona 2 bedroom lock off every other odd year week 32 plus some trust points. They are separate transactions and will be two separate sales. The details about point transfers and usages is a hard one to nail down with all the changes in ownership and programs, but someone else may have a better handle on that then I. Diamond got all confusing after they bought Sunterra and started with the trust points and the Club to get them to combine.

Thank you, yes that’s what I believe we own. Part of my confusion is that in 2010 when we bought the additional 1500 points and joined the Club, they assigned our original 1998 deeded purchase a value of 5000 pts, giving us 6500 points a year to use or exchange. We usually deposit the max each year, which is why we have 13,000 showing for 2025.

I’m not clear whether I’d be offering (free) 6500 points, or the original deeded trust (with the club/points value of 5000 being irrelevant) separately from 1500 points in US Collection (which is useless to anyone that’s not already in the Club just looking to increase their points a little, I guess?) When I tried calling them to clarify, I ended up more confused than before

 

[DeniseM]

@TPNOVO - This seems a little tricky - you were smart to ask for advice.

 

[TPNOVO]

I was hoping someone here could give me better advice than Hilton, who obviously doesn’t want me to do anything other than keep paying them forever lol.

 

[jeffox]

Thank you, yes that’s what I believe we own. Part of my confusion is that in 2010 when we bought the additional 1500 points and joined the Club, they assigned our original 1998 deeded purchase a value of 5000 pts, giving us 6500 points a year to use or exchange. We usually deposit the max each year, which is why we have 13,000 showing for 2025.

I’m not clear whether I’d be offering (free) 6500 points, or the original deeded trust (with the club/points value of 5000 being irrelevant) separately from 1500 points in US Collection (which is useless to anyone that’s not already in the Club just looking to increase their points a little, I guess?) When I tried calling them to clarify, I ended up more confused than before

The points with the deeded week are Diamond club points and don't transfer, only the deed does. A new owner may elect to buy into the new points system, but isn't required. The 1500 trust points are just points that someone may want to add to their account, but it's a small amount of points.

 

[TPNOVO]

The points with the deeded week are Diamond club points and don't transfer, only the deed does. A new owner may elect to buy into the new points system, but isn't required. The 1500 trust points are just points that someone may want to add to their account, but it's a small amount of points.

Thank you so much! I just hung up after more than 2 hours talking to 5 different departments there, and I have a much better grasp on it all now. Despite the deed stating a specific week and unit, it's in fact a floating week 1-52 (Yay Owner Services Dept for finally confirming this!) It can also be split (2 BR lockoff can be used as 1 BR for a week plus studio for a different week). It can also be split and booked for 3 days at one time and 4 days at another, doesn't have to be a 7 day stay. And it can be deposited into DestEx (included for all owners, no membership fee) to be used within 5 years, or RCI (if a member). I guess I'll see if anyone here wants it, before I give it back whenever Transitions resumes.

 

[GT75]

What are your MFs for only the deeded property at Ridge on Sedona. Since it is a LO (but I certainly can't verify this), I would think (hope anyways) that it can be LO and made separate deposits into DeX similar to Sedona Summit. If the MFs are reasonable and you could get both a tier 3 and tier 4 deposit, this could help a new owner of this property. @NiteMaire and @cindyc might be able to provide further information.

 

[TPNOVO]

What are your MFs for only the deeded property at Ridge on Sedona. Since it is a LO (but I certainly can't verify this), I would think (hope anyways) that it can be LO and made separate deposits into DeX similar to Sedona Summit. If the MFs are reasonable and you could get both a tier 3 and tier 4 deposit, this could help a new owner of this property. @NiteMaire and @cindyc might be able to provide further information.

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Thanks for the help! The MF just for the deeded property was $689.87 for 2024. Sedona Summit is a sister property (we first bought when they were Sunterra, before Diamond.) Owner Services confirmed it can be split to act as a 1 BR and studio, and that it can be deposited into DeX to have up to 5 years to travel. We haven’t used it at all since it become a Hilton property.

 

[GT75]

The MF just for the deeded property was $689.87 for 2024.

You own EOY deed, so do you pay 1/2 MFs every year (or $689.87 every year)?

 

[TPNOVO]

You own EOY deed, so do you pay 1/2 MFs every year (or $689.87 every year)?

That amount every year (increases a bit each year). We joined the Club and got 5000 points for use each year for the deeded property.

 

[TPNOVO]

What are your MFs for only the deeded property at Ridge on Sedona. Since it is a LO (but I certainly can't verify this), I would think (hope anyways) that it can be LO and made separate deposits into DeX similar to Sedona Summit. If the MFs are reasonable and you could get both a tier 3 and tier 4 deposit, this could help a new owner of this property. @NiteMaire and @cindyc might be able to provide further information.

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Thanks again for the help! I did list it for give away/free, and had a question I need clarification on. Would it only be able to be split and deposited to DEX for use as you suggest, for the original owner, or would a resale owner also have that ability? When I spoke to Owner Services they made no distinction to make me think it would be limited for a new owner, but you seem to get different info from different reps, and I figure you guys may know for sure through experience. I'm not sure where your screenshot came from, but I pulled this from the latest DEX member guide.

 

[TPNOVO]

Update, if anyone is interested, I was reassured today by Owner Services that *resale* deeded owners maintain all the same privileges and terms as *original* deeded owners - it follows the original deed and contract terms. So a new resale owner at the Ridge gets DEX included for free, access to trade into ~4500 resorts including international/Hawaii, the ability to split the 2 BR lockoff into a 1 BR and a studio and deposit for multiple tier credits that way, etc. The only thing a resale deeded owner cannot do, that an original deeded owner can do, is the Transitions program. I'm dumping The Club and going back to deeded/traditional! Thanks so much to everyone who has helped along the way!