Help! What does 10 k in Hilton Points get me?

[magmue]

I love Hawaii. I thought of just buying in Hawaii to ensure I get a spot but I find the MFs to be crazy high.

I hesitate to even mention it, because it's not Hilton, but I believe DeniseM still has an EOY 1 BR ocean front at Kauai Beach Villas available in the Bargain forum. MF is $1200 every odd year.
Then you could add a platinum HGVC week to get your second Hawaii week.

 

[frank808]

And that’s a BIG PLUS with HGVC. It’s simpler and more transparent plus makes the system focussed on owners.

One has to place a lot of trust with the timeshare company you deal with. You trust them to charge MF fairly...nothing hidden...nothing questionable. Also, you have to trust their club system too. No owner trades and they rent week for cash and tell the other owners that nothing is available.

Hilton just has a good name in hospitality and I’m betting they guard their reputation very carefully. That’s why I am swayed to them because I see them as trustworthy.


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Every uear HGVC has units in RCI for booking that we as HGVC owners cannot even book yet. These are prime time weeks like 3bedrooms at lagoon towers during July 4th or Thanksgiving week.

That seems wrong to me that a RCI exchanger can get units that i wont even be able to book in HGVC months before me. Worst part is when club season comes around these units aren't available for me to book in HGVC.

If you buy into HGVC, make sure you are not just looking through rose colored glasses.

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[Panina]

Every uear HGVC has units in RCI for booking that we as HGVC owners cannot even book yet. These are prime time weeks like 3bedrooms at lagoon towers during July 4th or Thanksgiving week.

That seems wrong to me that a RCI exchanger can get units that i wont even be able to book in HGVC months before me. Worst part is when club season comes around these units aren't available for me to book in HGVC.

If you buy into HGVC, make sure you are not just looking through rose colored glasses.

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Yes, definitely a negative. We can only see nine months out hgvc weeks thru the rci portal when there are many other weeks available further out to other rci members plus we also have to pay resort fees if we use our hgvc points and trade for a hgvc property thru rci, triple whammy, restricted what we see, rci fee and resort fees if hgvc charges them to rci trades.

With that said, so far I have been able to trade within hgvc to get what I want.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Every uear HGVC has units in RCI for booking that we as HGVC owners cannot even book yet. These are prime time weeks like 3bedrooms at lagoon towers during July 4th or Thanksgiving week.

That seems wrong to me that a RCI exchanger can get units that i wont even be able to book in HGVC months before me. Worst part is when club season comes around these units aren't available for me to book in HGVC.

If you buy into HGVC, make sure you are not just looking through rose colored glasses.

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I am a lucky winner of a July 4 RCI exchange week in the 3 bedroom penthouse in Lagoon Tower. https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/hit-the-rci-jackpot-points-refund-question.280002/

I don't think this is common as I had nothing for two years (although I am certain there was Hawaii availability, my dates and resorts are very picky) and my OGS was probably top of the queue due based on the original search date. I am also an HGVC owner so not sure why this unit wasn't taken by others prior to my 9 month window. I know that the bulk deposits of HGVC that @frank808 describes are deposited well in advance of the 9 month HGVC window.

Is it possible an owner deposited their 3bdrm Penthouse week in RCI? Although unfair that HGVC owners only have access at nine months, I have heard that one of the systems (Hyatt?) doesn't allow their owners to trade for same system units in II so perhaps 9 months is better than nothing at all.

Some of the resort fees on RCI are getting ridiculous. Fiesta Americana Cabo has an optional $80/pp/day AI fee on HGVC site. RCI now has $120/pp/day AI fee for same resort. Manhattan Club is now $54 a night resort fee. HGVC now charges daily resort fees to RCI exchangers. RCI allows the resorts to set the fee so this will only get more ridiculous in the future.

HGVC does seem to have good trading power in RCI, because I have received good trade opportunities for Maui (Maui Hill July 4 2 bdrm), Key West, Barbados, Disney SSR, Anaheim Xmas, and other hard to land properties. My problem with RCI is that many of the units are a downgrade quality-wise from HGVC so I don't want to use our expensive points there - especially on Wyndham properties because I could reserve many of the units via Wyndham's discounted excess inventory portals. However instead of Wyndham, I also have access to II so many of the cash getaways at higher quality Marriott, Vistana and Hyatt can be had for the price of an annual MF without the risks of owning.

Search the Tug Sightings / Distressed history if you want to know about HGVC bulk deposit patterns.

 

[SmithOp]

Its more likely that someone picked it up when it was bulk deposited by HGVC, then canceled inside 9 months and your OGS snagged it.

HGVC owners have no way to deposit a week into RCI.


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[tk25]

Although I thought I would always rent, I have a chance to get a yearly 10k Hilton points in Vegas (Hilton Grand Vacations on Paradise). The purchase price is 2500.00. This is a resale. The MF is 2100 a year.

Is that a good deal?

Is 10k a good amount of points? I only would buy one week so I want to get the Big Kahuna in points. Are there points packages higher than 10k at Hilton? Would 10k in Hilton points get me 2 weeks in Hawaii?

What’s your guess on how much the developer would charge for a 10k Hilton Package? I was told it’s Gold season.

What are your thoughts? Good deal or run like hell?


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And that’s a BIG PLUS with HGVC. It’s simpler and more transparent plus makes the system focussed on owners.

One has to place a lot of trust with the timeshare company you deal with. You trust them to charge MF fairly...nothing hidden...nothing questionable. Also, you have to trust their club system too. No owner trades and they rent week for cash and tell the other owners that nothing is available.

Hilton just has a good name in hospitality and I’m betting they guard their reputation very carefully. That’s why I am swayed to them because I see them as trustworthy.


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[tk25]

I was offered a similar deal at vegas two deeds 5000 points each. It is not that good of a deal and would be hard to sell. Only buy platinum and would recommend 7000 point package at Vegas Boulevard to get started. Annual MF about $875 + yearly membership fee under $200.
Kings land has some 12600 and 14400 point packages with more reasonable annual MF