Harborside now counts for Abound level?

[echino]

I noticed my Abound status changed, logged in, and so no changes to the number of points I can elect. However, on the Owner Benefit Level page, under Total Club Points value, the number of points increased to push me over the next level. There is no explanation, but I believe it may be due to Harborside now counting towards Abound level. Anyone noticed the same?

 

[sponger76]

Nice! Took them long enough. Hopefully they get the points election part of it sorted for you soon. Also wondering if there is any movement for Westin Riverfront. I don't own at either location, but I just don't like to see these loose ends from the integration.

 

[sharr7]

Nothing changed with my Harborside ownership or Abound points/level. I've been waiting eagerly and checking often too. Last update I got for integration was "2nd quarter" 2023. Ha.

Hopefully it's being rolled out and you were one of the first to get updated. Can you see anywhere what Club Points value they assigned your HRA weeks?

 

[echino]

Nothing changed with my Harborside ownership or Abound points/level. I've been waiting eagerly and checking often too. Last update I got for integration was "2nd quarter" 2023. Ha.

Hopefully it's being rolled out and you were one of the first to get updated. Can you see anywhere what Club Points value they assigned your HRA weeks?

Not clear. I own two fixed weeks 51 in 2br lockoff in Phase I. My Abound points increased by 9,095. Which cannot be divided by 2.

 

[DanCali]

I am looking on the MVC app dashboard and my total number of points has not changed, so does not reflect HRA.

That total does include my other Vistana weeks, and has since the integration last year.

 

[alexadeparis]

Nothing changed for me - still Presidential; still no point values for that unit under what i own

 

[echino]

Not sure what's going on. I assumed the extra 9,095 points were for my 2 Harborside weeks, but they may or may not be. Points are only showing on the status page, and total points only, no breakdown by contract. They are not actually electable.

 

[dioxide45]

Did you acquire any new mandatory resale units?

 

[echino]

Did you acquire any new mandatory resale units?

No. I recently (after cutoff) bought a resale voluntary unit at Westin Riverfront, which was automatically added into my existing Vistana account. But my level did not go up when it was added, it just went up a few days ago. And 9,095 points is too much for one week anyway. If not Harborside, then I think it may be an error.

 

[PamMo]

Nothing has changed in my Vistana or Marriott Vacation Club accounts re my HRA weeks. When I sold two of my Westin Ka'anapali weeks, I was downgraded to Presidential. If/when they add HRA to Abound, I'll be bumped back up to Chairman Level. Frankly, the upgrade doesn't give me any benefits that I find useful. The best thing Vistana could do for me is lower those Harborside maintenance fees!

 

[DanCali]

Nothing has changed in my Vistana or Marriott Vacation Club accounts re my HRA weeks. When I sold two of my Westin Ka'anapali weeks, I was downgraded to Presidential. If/when they add HRA to Abound, I'll be bumped back up to Chairman Level. Frankly, the upgrade doesn't give me any benefits that I find useful. The best thing Vistana could do for me is lower those Harborside maintenance fees!

If it's any consolation, Harborside has had probably one of the lowest rates of MFs increases between all Vistana and Marriott resorts, if not the lowest. The level is high, and has always been high due to the Atlantis fees added in the annual dues, but the rate of increase over the past 9 years (since I've owned) has been low, and that includes the big jump in 2023.

In my case, for the 2BR non-lockoff unit, it went from $1735 in 2014 to $2263 in 2023 - that's an increase of 30.5% over 9 years which is 3% annualized. At other resorts I own, like WKV and Newport Coast Villas, the rate of increase over similar or somewhat longer periods has been 3.7% and 5.2%, respectively. I wouldn't count on them lowering the fees, but let's hope they can continue to keep them relatively under control.

The main benefit to Chairman vs Presidential level is that extra 6 months in the life of banked points. It applies to both Staroptions and Abound points. It can make a difference, but probably rarely.