Harborside Atlantis resale and MVC points

[cecilynieh]

Husband and I love the Marriott product. We own a few weeks (2 of our 3 weeks we can convert to MVC points) and some MVC points. Our Christmas week park city unit we bought on the resale market and can not convert to points unless Marriott runs a 'forbearance' (I might have the wrong term here) special and we have to buy additional MVC points to enroll our existing unit. We have no interest in doing this at this time. Since our goal is rent out the Christmas week for now.
However....
We went to a Harborside Atlantis sales pitch. And walked away feeling confident we are not a good fit for the current offerings. However, I am curious and assume, if a harborside resale was purchased, the new owners do not have the ability to convert to MVC points. Am I correct in this assumption? I was surprised to learn that Harborside resales retain all their star points for the new owners and the resort does not have a 1st right of refusal. So I thought the question was worth asking.

Cecily

 

[dioxide45]

Husband and I love the Marriott product. We own a few weeks (2 of our 3 weeks we can convert to MVC points) and some MVC points. Our Christmas week park city unit we bought on the resale market and can not convert to points unless Marriott runs a 'forbearance' (I might have the wrong term here) special and we have to buy additional MVC points to enroll our existing unit. We have no interest in doing this at this time. Since our goal is rent out the Christmas week for now.
However....
We went to a Harborside Atlantis sales pitch. And walked away feeling confident we are not a good fit for the current offerings. However, I am curious and assume, if a harborside resale was purchased, the new owners do not have the ability to convert to MVC points. Am I correct in this assumption? I was surprised to learn that Harborside resales retain all their star points for the new owners and the resort does not have a 1st right of refusal. So I thought the question was worth asking.

Cecily

You are correct. Harborside Resort is considered a mandatory resort in the VSN (Vistana) system. That means that membership in the VSN is required. You can't opt out. That means even resales come with StarOptions. Harborside is not a good property to purchase resale or direct unless you plan to go to that resort and that resort only every year and want guaranteed booking. It is an easy enough property to book using StarOptions that you can acquire from another mandatory Vistana resort that has MUCH lower annual maintenance fees. The maintenance fees in the Bahamas are VERY expensive.

If you are considering a purchase of Vistana, look at Platinum Plus Westin Kierland Villas. It seems to have the best maintenance fee to StarOption ratio, but a 2BR annual week will set you back anywhere from $10K-$15K.

You may want to check out the Vistana forum for more info.

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[cecilynieh]

Yes this is how it was presented to us.
However, the units offered (which we are not interested in), can also be converted to MVC points. Because Harborside is now part of the Marriott family. This is not true if we purchase a traditional Marriott unit on the resale market. Does anyone know if a resale Harborside retains the ability to convert to MVC points? Or is this void?
Just curious.

 

[dioxide45]

Yes this is how it was presented to us.
However, the units offered (which we are not interested in), can also be converted to MVC points. Because Harborside is now part of the Marriott family. This is not true if we purchase a traditional Marriott unit on the resale market. Does anyone know if a resale Harborside retains the ability to convert to MVC points? Or is this void?
Just curious.

No, you wouldn't be able to convert it to Abound Club Points. Resale Vistana VOIs purchased after August 2022 are not eligible for Abound. You can re-qualify them, currently, for a $10,000 purchase of additional timeshare product direct from Vistana.