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Florida Resort - Hideaway Sands - Real life story of what happens after a hurricane to a small independent resort

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This is just a sad story all around for this resort, but a grim reminder of what can happen in situations like these especially when most people assume that "insurance will just cover it"

This resort held a special board meeting today to discuss the rebuilding process and the main takeaway was that they expected the resort to remain closed thru the entirety of 2025. another owner posted this synopsis of the meeting as they heard it:

These are my notes from the meeting. It was very dark


The current assessment by FEMA is $437,000. That means repairs would have to be done for less than half this amount- $218,500. That amount will not touch the amount of rebuilding needed.
Hideaway cannot get a building permit to make repairs, until and unless the assesment and evaluation that indicate that the buildings can be rebuilt for an amount that is under the 50% value of the current building (not land).
The board voted to hire a private assessor to see if they can get a higher value on the building to work with that would enable rebuilding with the units the way they were (not to the new codes)
But the tone of the meeting was not optimistic.The evaluation of property value would need to be more than double the one FEMA made, and FEMA would still have the power to not accept the private assesment, and require Hideaway to build to meet the new codes.


The general feeling was that to repair the buildings to “code”, could require a special assessment of almost $10,000 per owner per week–and 80% of the owners would need to vote yes. (unlikely).
If they cannot get a building permit because the assessment is too low to cover repairs under the 50% rule, and the owners will not agree to cover a very large ($10,000) assessment, the only option is to sell the land and distribute the proceeds to the owners who stay on and continue paying maintenance fees (most likely for the next two years).


Best case–the assessment comes in high enough to have insurance pay for rebuilding to the old standards (under 50% rule). In that best-case scenario, the earliest estimated opening date will be December 31, 2025.
What was also discussed was the insurance calamity and the likelihood that by 2030, our maintenance fees are likely to be $1600 per unit week.
 

buzglyd

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Sad. A lot of great locations have been pummeled. At least the land has such high value, the owners should get something out of it.
 

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Please forgive me TUGBrian, but FEMA offer to the resort is very low. How can you rebuild a timeshare resort at half the costs and meet Florida new building codes? Will any other insurance policies kick in with additional funds?
 

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I believe this is just a situation where the fema adjustor (flood claims in florida are handled by nfip/fema) simply provided an unrealistic estimate to repair the damage... no real difference than any insurance adjuster making an estimate to repair your car or home during a claim. Ie they say they will pay 15k for your new roof, but good luck finding a contractor that will do the job for that amount!

Thus they are seeking an independent estimator for a 2nd opinion. I have to imagine that construction prices and schedules for the florida gulf coast are nowhere near what they would normally be given the past 2 storms etc.
 

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We live in a 100 year flood zone in Connecticut and have the same fema policy.

The major problem to rebuilding in our town is that there is a 10 year moving average where no more than 50% of the apprised value of the house can be spent on any permitted work.

If that resort is governed by a similar policy, then if they can rebuild for 48% of the apprised value, then over the next 10 years, no more than 2% can be spent on permitted work.

Because of this policy, I'm reluctant to do any significant improvements to our house.

In our town, this policy was agreed upon with fema so that everybody in the town gets a lower cost for flood insurance.
 
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