End of deeded Timeshare as we know them

[e.bram]

Is this the End of deeded Timeshare as we know them?
Or maybe the beginning of the END!

 

[CO skier]

Deeded week timeshares became passé decades ago. WorldMark and Disney have been points systems from the beginning.

Points systems offer so much more flexibility versus weeks timeshares. Does any major timeshare company still sell "deeded weeks Timeshares" (other than event weeks, such as weeks 51 & 52)?

 

[seascapemvy]

Deeded week timeshares became passé decades ago. WorldMark and Disney have been points systems from the beginning.

Points systems offer so much more flexibility versus weeks timeshares. Does any major timeshare company still sell "deeded weeks Timeshares" (other than event weeks, such as weeks 51 & 52)?

Disney does sell guaranteed weeks but they are point based and require extra points. However, you can notify Disney you want to change and you can use your points like everyone else.

 

[Hindsite]

RTU weeks are still a thing in MVC outside of the US.

 

[Roger830]

Is this the End of deeded Timeshare as we know them?
Or maybe the beginning of the END!

It's the end of the beginning.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

It’s the middle of the middle.

 

[jp10558]

Deeded week timeshares became passé decades ago. WorldMark and Disney have been points systems from the beginning.

Points systems offer so much more flexibility versus weeks timeshares. Does any major timeshare company still sell "deeded weeks Timeshares" (other than event weeks, such as weeks 51 & 52)?

Hard to say, I see HGVC reported as still selling deeds, but their HVC/DRI are just points, and I think Bluegreen is the same. I find that many points systems flexibility comes with increased cost for the same thing, and lots of "*" in how it works - like you often can't actually stay for one night here or there, or even a weekend, but we see some systems or resorts have 3 day minimum stays, some are even longer if you believe reports on TUG. On the other end, you can't (in Wyndham) book more than 2 weeks on one reservation that I recall. I also tend to see with the points systems "mud days", i.e. you can usually book Mon-Thurs somewhat easily, but if you want a full week, or even 5 days it can get challenging. It also can end up where you see a bunch of unbookable single nights (if you even wanted that single night) because of the minimum booking.

So it is more flexible but potentially even more complicated to use. It also gives even more flim flam opportunities to sales. OTOOH - I do own in 3 systems with points, but each is based on a deed for what that's worth. What I do find a bit unconscionable is reported stuff that MVC pulls with Abound where if you deposit your week in Abound, sometimes you don't get enough points to then book that week with Abound... But I don't see that with HGVC and of course pure points won't have that issue.

 

[paxsarah]

Deeded points or deeded weeks?

 

[dioxide45]

The OP provides zero context to their claim.

 

[dayooper]

Hard to say, I see HGVC reported as still selling deeds, but their HVC/DRI are just points, and I think Bluegreen is the same. I find that many points systems flexibility comes with increased cost for the same thing, and lots of "*" in how it works - like you often can't actually stay for one night here or there, or even a weekend, but we see some systems or resorts have 3 day minimum stays, some are even longer if you believe reports on TUG. On the other end, you can't (in Wyndham) book more than 2 weeks on one reservation that I recall. I also tend to see with the points systems "mud days", i.e. you can usually book Mon-Thurs somewhat easily, but if you want a full week, or even 5 days it can get challenging. It also can end up where you see a bunch of unbookable single nights (if you even wanted that single night) because of the minimum booking.

So it is more flexible but potentially even more complicated to use. It also gives even more flim flam opportunities to sales. OTOOH - I do own in 3 systems with points, but each is based on a deed for what that's worth. What I do find a bit unconscionable is reported stuff that MVC pulls with Abound where if you deposit your week in Abound, sometimes you don't get enough points to then book that week with Abound... But I don't see that with HGVC and of course pure points won't have that issue.

HGVC is still selling deeds and, I believe they will continue. The deeds are somewhat different than traditional deeds. In true HGVC resorts (not affiliates like Marco, Sanibel and the like), deeds aren't a particular week, but the right to book during a particular season. I own a week in a 2 bedroom unit at The Flamingo during platinum season. I have the right to book a 2 bedroom during any week in platinum season. Booking my week will use up all of my allotted points for that week. I have a 3 month booking window (277 to 365 days) to book my week before anybody else in the club can. Once 276 days hits, it's fair game for anybody in the club. Unless I own at an affiliate resort (Marco, Sanibel, Captiva, Scotland Lodges), I don't have to release my week at all. If I'm using my points to book a club booking (not my home week), I just book and it pulls from my allotted points, oldest points first. I own 2 weeks with HGVC and they both are deeded with rights to my season and I must enroll my weeks into their system. That protects me from them saying I can't use my points for club bookings.